Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Thanks, Mike. Seems like a good suggestion. Greg Chinese Medicine , " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1@h...> wrote: > I have found that chronic issues which affect the tonsils and adenoids to > make good progress with Kiiko's protocol for acupuncture and also having > patient use a salt water irrigation through nose. The bathing of the > irritated tissues is helped by the warm salt water and this also acts to > heal tissue. Micro-organisms seem to have issue with the salt. Patient > must be willing to do their part daily for several months. Take care and > best of luck. > > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > > > >behzad goharfar <behzad_goharfar> > >Chinese Medicine > >Chinese Medicine > >Re: Re: Huge ton > >Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:25:48 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >Dear Greg , Hello > > > >Your excellent history & physical examination directs us to > > > >Correct diagnosis. > > > >First we should know we have 2 types of tonsils or lymphatic > > > >Tissues in throat ; 2 pharyngeal tonsils we see them in back of > > > >Tongue & adenoid tissue which is in back of nose , not seen > > > >Without special mirror. Pharyngeal tonsils sometimes became > > > >Large & cause obstruction to breath & swallow. When they > > > >Infect became large & red with white coating(pus) , most dangerous > > > >Cause is streptococcal infection which especially in age 3-30 years > > > >Causes rheumatic heart disease. So with respect to TCM , I should > > > >Say pharyngeal infection should be treated with antibiotics if it is > > > >Streptococcal. .TCM measures can act as pain relieving & comforting > > > >Agent NOT main therapy.there is no indication for surgery except > > > >Pharyngeal abscess or tumor. > > > >But your patient has signs & symptoms of recurrent sinusitis.Sinuses > > > >Are parapharyngeal chambers filled with air & mucus , their orifice > > > >Are in mid of their inner wall so drainage of their secretion are related > > > >To constant motion of mucosal cilia .these fine cilia paralysed with > > > >Smoking even passive, air pollution , pollens etc. > > > >An allergic basis will aggravate secretions in nose , sinuses & throat > > > > & impaired drainage ends to a vicious cycle of infection , now > > > >Patient have fever sticky yellow to green secretions , sweating & > > > >Cough especially at night when secretions go to lung directly . > > > >Ear infection is a complication as anorexia & mouth malodour. > > > >In this patient you should first pursuit underlying condition. > > > >It may be due to stress , HSV recurrence , malnutrition , low sun > > > >Exposure , air pollution or smoking . Also consider 2 severe condition: > > > >HIV infection & Neoplasm of nasopharynx which should be considered > > > > in every ear infection in adults , not children. > > > >I suggest to you to have a consult with an ENT to have a blood exam > > > >( complete blood count , ESR ,HIV exam ) & a throughout exam of > > > >Nasopharynx with special mirror.Then he should prescribe antibiotics > > > >For 2-3 weeks not less ,even symptoms cured in first days.Early > >antibiotic > > > >Cessation is the main cause of recurrency. > > > >Don`t be worry I am not an enemy of TCM , but I think it should complete > > > >Classic medicine.What is the rule of TCM ? > > > >You can prescribe herbal drugs for mucolysis , increase immunity , lessen > > > >Cough & soften respiratory secretions .they acts very nice. > > > >In other hand you should repair the underlying condition , if it isn`t > >HIV > > > >Or tumor ( they chance is less than 5 %), it is allergy & depression. > > > >In TCM diagnosis we can say he had a week wei qi , deficient lung qi > > > > & cold invading to him .So you should repair them . I had many patient > > > >Like him even in children treated with acupuncture better than drugs. > > > >Anti allergic drugs cause somnolence , drying secretions & transient > > > >Effects. > > > >I suggest you needle these points : > > > >For general increase in wei qi: Li 4, 11 , Du 20 , K 3 ,Sp 6 > > > >For increasing lung qi : Lu 1 , 6,7 , 9 ,UB 11 , 12 , 13 ,Sj 5 ,St 40 > > > >For increasing qi in face & sinuses: St. 3 , 8 ,10 , 11 , 12 ,Li 19, 20 > > > > Yuyao,yintang , SI 16 , 17 ,UB 2 , 3 , 4 > >, GB 14 > > > >For depression : Du 20 , Li 4 , 11 ,LIV 2,3 ,H 7, P6 > > > >Moxibustion also may be useful. > > > >Also give him some face Yuga exercises. > > > >And also refer him to an infectious disease expert for acyclovir > > > >Suppression therapy for reduction of herpes relapses. > > > >If any other idea or need suggestion ? > > > >With best wishes. > > > >B. Goharfar MD > > > > > > " Greg A. Livingston " <drlivingston@g...> wrote:Here is one more piece > >of info I forgot to include in the patient's history. He was never > >breat fed, only given formula. Not sure if that matters, but given the > >immune-system > >nature of this case, I thought it should be mentioned. > > > >Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link page, > >http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > > > and adjust > >accordingly. > > > >Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > >requires prior permission from the author. > > > >If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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