Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Chinese Medicine , <@w...> wrote: > There is clearly confusion in " Grasping the Wind " (understandably, it's an > ambitious, and, in the Wiseman et al series, an early undertaking). " St-7 > may derive its name from its location below the joint of the mandible. > Also, it is located just below the zygomatic arch, an area that reminded > the ancient Chinese of the door bolt (guan). Thus the point name may be > considered a reference to the point's location below that arch. " They > entertain two alternatives here (both with " may " ). > > Then " See also GB-3 (Above the Joint). " But GB-3 is headed/titled " Upper > Gate " . So the authors, at publication time, got caught with one name in > each of the two interpretations, with a clue here that they entertained > consistent naming (below/above joint), and either withdrew from it, or > failed to update both locations to it. I agree that it is a bit inconsistent. Perhaps it was inconsistent across different source texts. I know that they used Chinese texts that explained the meanings of the point names to come up with their translations. I'll ask Nigel and see if there is more explanation to be added. > By the way, (under GB-3 " The mandibular joint is often referred to in > Chinese as the 'gate' (guan). " Joints seen as gate/guan is routine in > Chinese. Well, guan means " joint, " so it is hardly a surprise that joints seen as guan is routine in Chinese. >The 9 gates of (at least some) TaiJiChuan schools (ankle, knee, > hip, lumbar, thoracic, cervical (as areas), shoulder, elbow, wrist); the 3 > gates of the back emphasized in some systems, etc. Guan has a wide range of use, to be sure. And " men, " door, can also be translated as gate at times, further adding the complexity. However, guan is clearly associated with the jaw in some contexts. If a medicinal is said to free the guan, it is indicating that the medicinal is specifically indicated for freeing the jaw to treat clenched jaw. What the exact context of guan in these point names refers to, I do not know. I am just making some informed guesses. The answers will be in the Chinese texts that explain the point names. Since these were used for grasping the wind, I can't imagine that the explanations in grasping the wind are that far off the mark, for whatever ambiguities or inconsistencies there may be. Of course, many times in Chinese, the answer is not simply A or B, the answer is sometimes both A and B. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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