Candida question auto immune deffiencies

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Sandy,

You've heard the statement " Eat to live, not live to eat " , or " You

are what you eat " ?

Some of us are willing to change over night and give it all they

have, some of us have our feet dug in a little harder and try a

little at a time, and some of us die trying not to change at all. I

haven't yet met a person who didn't need to change, myself included.

It's tempting to " pick " the easiest sounding way to go, especially

with Candida, but quick fixes are not what they are cracked up to

be, even if they are herbal.

Candida is extremely hard to diagnose for two reasons.

The " symptoms " differ so widely, and labratory testing for it has to

be done by a professional ND qualified to or " familiar " enough with

catching up with the sneaky buggers. A high carb diet for 10 days

prior to testing will still " sometimes " yeild a normal, from any of

the methods of testing, even a stool sample.

There is a ton of mis-information out there about Candida and how to

cure it. There is also a ton of good information. The herbs they

list for the most part are good, even many of the remedies you can

purchase will help tremendously quicken the road to recovery. Some

aren't worth the time of day or are more harmful than good.

However, the diets out there for treating Candida are off, in almost

every book I have read. To go this route would be costly and very

slow.

Whether we realize it or not, many of us has Candida or at least had

it. It's pretty tough to have a low immune system and not get

systemic Candida. Candidas' are in our stomaches and are meant to be

there to aid in digestion. They just weren't meant to be in our

blood causing havic.

When the flora (bacteria) in the intestines gets knocked out of wack

for any reason pesticides, coffee, cough syrup (all other over the

counters), antibiotics (all prescriptions), having babies (hormonal

changes), hormone drugs (i.e. cortizone, prednisone, estrogen), and

many, many more the yeast over populate in the intestines, then bore

holes in the intestines causing leaky gut, and repopulate to the

blood stream, and it doesn't take long.

The immune system already over burdened, gets even more stressed and

burdened by the Candida yeast eliminating (peeing and pooping in our

blood streams) after the lavish meals we served them (or we ate).

Soon it can not keep up with the yeast either. Or much of anything

else for that matter. That's about the time we begin to get

allergies or notice them worsening.

The way to treat systemic (in the blood) Candida, is the very same

diet needed to get rid of any other dis-ease, acid/alkalinity

balance, but with less sugars (temporarily)to feed the yeast. You

can't just kill them off with antifungals, you have to starve them

to death as well.

" Normal " (unhealthy)diets are more so than not, 80-95 percent acid.

A high acid diet no matter where we fall on the charts, seriously

hinders the immune system, it just can't do it's job.

To explain it clearer I will use cancer as an example. Our immune

systems kill up to 300 cancer (mutated) cells a day in our bodies.

The day the immune system, can no longer keep up, is the day that

first cell doubles, then triples. Cancer cells have no idea what

each of the others are doing (like they are deaf and blind), so they

just keep quickly slitting/mulitplying. The immune system is down

and can do nothing or it would!

The answer isn't to kick it while it's down.

Well, that holds true for any of the dis-eases.

On a whole, the best defense we have for dis-ease is our own immune

system. True preventive care, means keeping the immune system up and

running as smoothly as possible and preventing the " cancer " or in

this case Candida in the first place.

ANYONE who has auto immune defficiency from arthritis to cancer,

first had Candida. Candida is not a symptom, it is a sign the colon

and immune system are in serious trouble.

Treating the symptoms of Candida, (i.e. arthritis pain, Epstein

Barr, digestion troubles, recurrent bladder infections, recurrent

fungal infections, tonsillitis, cancer, even acne,) will not make

the true problem go away.

Candida, the sign of trouble, must be treated, but so must the root

of it, the colon and immune system. Otherwise you'll get it back,

like many do with cancer, or worse yet spend a great many years

treating syptoms and signs.

Candida is referred to as " the lesser A.I.D.s " because of the

similarity, it of course doesn't change shape, just location. So

with Candida you HAVE to treat the whole body.

Failing to prevent dis-ease doesn't necessarily doom us, but we will

have to back track, and do what we didn't do initially.

If we are not just treating symptoms like the medico's, we will get

a healing much quicker and cheaper. Have less permenant scathing and

scarring, and the percentile for a total healing goes wayyy up.

So you see, the reason for changing your diet to treat Candida is,

you can not partially treat Candida, if you want to get rid of it,

you have no choice.

The " way " to treat Candida is to first get your immune system up and

running optimally and at the same time starve the yeast, even on a

low acid diet, (very little sugars or foods that convert to sugar

after consumption) anti fungal's, and oxygen.

Stevia is the only sweetner yeast doesn't recognize as sugar. It is

VERY sweet, so try a little before buying a large amount.

Juicing organic veggies (lots of) and fruits (sparingly at first)

making sure you are getting ample assimilatable vitamins and

minerals.

Using foods and herbs that kill fungus (i.e. Pau D Arco, garlic, raw

apple cider vinegar, CS, and et.).

Using foods and herbs that increase circulation like red hot pepper

capsicum, because Candida yeast can survive in dead tissue where

there is no circulation.

Oxygenate your body and re-establish the flora (bacteria) in your

intestines to stop this problem from perpetuating.

There are colon cleanses in Doc's files, flora (good bacteria your

body needs) have a hard time surviving in toxic sludge so you will

need to " flush " the pipes and open them up. You'll want to flush

that garbage anyway. If you don't, it reabsorbs into the body

everyday, and some of it is pretty rancid stuff that has been there

20 or more years. Adding that to what the yeast are throwing off in

the blood stream and yuck, we have troubles!

The cabbage water (recipe in the files) re-establishes flora quickly

if there is a half way decent envirenment for them to flourish. Raw

apple cider vinegar feeds those flora to keep them flourishing.

Because a body with Candida is in such stress, it NEEDS a good

assimilatable buffered vitamin C and calcium/mag. Doc has the most

wonderful recipe on file for lemon egg.

I love this site for many reasons. One: it is FULL of support by

people who have been through it or are going through it and have

true compassion. It's a great support team. Two: Doc has done his

best to provide self helps and how to's with complete instruction,

as have others here. Which save's time and money. AND provides his

services onlist or professionally as needed. Along with providing

remedies we can trust if we can not provide them for ourselves.

Three: This site is chalk full of thousands of gifted folks' idea's

all over the world with what DID work for them.

Using herbs can be as expensive or cheap as you decide to go. You

can grow the herbs you need, buy them in bulk and encapsilate them

or make them into your own tinctures. The directions are in the

files.

There are many herbs, and regimes that would help build your system

up, clean it out and destroy systemic Candida. Diet changes, colon

cleasnes, lemon egg, garlic, raw apple cider vinegar, capsicum and

lots of it, a good stable colloidal silver, MSM and DMSO (for the

carrying power to get to hiding yeast) would be where I personally

would " start " .

I hope this helps gives you a clearer perspective.

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herbal remedies , Briasandia <briasandia>

wrote:

>

> I looked up candida on the net and one site gave a home test by

putting morning saliva in a glass of water and if it gets stringy or

clouds the water this is indicative a a candida problem. Has anyone

ever heard of this, is there any truth to this simple test? The

site also recommended a herbal remedy called ThreeLac, at 50 bucks a

bottle I was wondering if anyone has tried it with success. or

perhaps there is a cheaper remedy I can use.

> I appreciate any help,

> Thanks,

> Sandi

>

>

>

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Where is this quiz on whether or not we have it? If I had someone look at my blood on one of those video screens, would they be able to diagnose?

And if my daughter (8 weeks) has a white film on her tongue, would that mean yeast?

 

Elizabeth Elliotteliz3378

 

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Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:42 PM

Herbal Remedies - Re: Candida question auto immune deffiencies

Sandy,You've heard the statement "Eat to live, not live to eat", or "You are what you eat"?Some of us are willing to change over night and give it all they have, some of us have our feet dug in a little harder and try a little at a time, and some of us die trying not to change at all. I haven't yet met a person who didn't need to change, myself included.It's tempting to "pick" the easiest sounding way to go, especially with Candida, but quick fixes are not what they are cracked up to be, even if they are herbal.Candida is extremely hard to diagnose for two reasons. The "symptoms" differ so widely, and labratory testing for it has to be done by a professional ND qualified to or "familiar" enough with catching up with the sneaky buggers. A high carb diet for 10 days prior to testing will still "sometimes" yeild a normal, from any of the methods of testing, even a stool sample. There is a ton of mis-information out there about Candida and how to cure it. There is also a ton of good information. The herbs they list for the most part are good, even many of the remedies you can purchase will help tremendously quicken the road to recovery. Some aren't worth the time of day or are more harmful than good.However, the diets out there for treating Candida are off, in almost every book I have read. To go this route would be costly and very slow.Whether we realize it or not, many of us has Candida or at least had it. It's pretty tough to have a low immune system and not get systemic Candida. Candidas' are in our stomaches and are meant to be there to aid in digestion. They just weren't meant to be in our blood causing havic.When the flora (bacteria) in the intestines gets knocked out of wack for any reason pesticides, coffee, cough syrup (all other over the counters), antibiotics (all prescriptions), having babies (hormonal changes), hormone drugs (i.e. cortizone, prednisone, estrogen), and many, many more the yeast over populate in the intestines, then bore holes in the intestines causing leaky gut, and repopulate to the blood stream, and it doesn't take long. The immune system already over burdened, gets even more stressed and burdened by the Candida yeast eliminating (peeing and pooping in our blood streams) after the lavish meals we served them (or we ate). Soon it can not keep up with the yeast either. Or much of anything else for that matter. That's about the time we begin to get allergies or notice them worsening.The way to treat systemic (in the blood) Candida, is the very same diet needed to get rid of any other dis-ease, acid/alkalinity balance, but with less sugars (temporarily)to feed the yeast. You can't just kill them off with antifungals, you have to starve them to death as well."Normal" (unhealthy)diets are more so than not, 80-95 percent acid. A high acid diet no matter where we fall on the charts, seriously hinders the immune system, it just can't do it's job.To explain it clearer I will use cancer as an example. Our immune systems kill up to 300 cancer (mutated) cells a day in our bodies. The day the immune system, can no longer keep up, is the day that first cell doubles, then triples. Cancer cells have no idea what each of the others are doing (like they are deaf and blind), so they just keep quickly slitting/mulitplying. The immune system is down and can do nothing or it would!The answer isn't to kick it while it's down.Well, that holds true for any of the dis-eases.On a whole, the best defense we have for dis-ease is our own immune system. True preventive care, means keeping the immune system up and running as smoothly as possible and preventing the "cancer" or in this case Candida in the first place.ANYONE who has auto immune defficiency from arthritis to cancer, first had Candida. Candida is not a symptom, it is a sign the colon and immune system are in serious trouble.Treating the symptoms of Candida, (i.e. arthritis pain, Epstein Barr, digestion troubles, recurrent bladder infections, recurrent fungal infections, tonsillitis, cancer, even acne,) will not make the true problem go away.Candida, the sign of trouble, must be treated, but so must the root of it, the colon and immune system. Otherwise you'll get it back, like many do with cancer, or worse yet spend a great many years treating syptoms and signs. Candida is referred to as "the lesser A.I.D.s" because of the similarity, it of course doesn't change shape, just location. So with Candida you HAVE to treat the whole body. Failing to prevent dis-ease doesn't necessarily doom us, but we will have to back track, and do what we didn't do initially. If we are not just treating symptoms like the medico's, we will get a healing much quicker and cheaper. Have less permenant scathing and scarring, and the percentile for a total healing goes wayyy up.So you see, the reason for changing your diet to treat Candida is, you can not partially treat Candida, if you want to get rid of it, you have no choice.The "way" to treat Candida is to first get your immune system up and running optimally and at the same time starve the yeast, even on a low acid diet, (very little sugars or foods that convert to sugar after consumption) anti fungal's, and oxygen.Stevia is the only sweetner yeast doesn't recognize as sugar. It is VERY sweet, so try a little before buying a large amount.Juicing organic veggies (lots of) and fruits (sparingly at first) making sure you are getting ample assimilatable vitamins and minerals.Using foods and herbs that kill fungus (i.e. Pau D Arco, garlic, raw apple cider vinegar, CS, and et.).Using foods and herbs that increase circulation like red hot pepper capsicum, because Candida yeast can survive in dead tissue where there is no circulation.Oxygenate your body and re-establish the flora (bacteria) in your intestines to stop this problem from perpetuating.There are colon cleanses in Doc's files, flora (good bacteria your body needs) have a hard time surviving in toxic sludge so you will need to "flush" the pipes and open them up. You'll want to flush that garbage anyway. If you don't, it reabsorbs into the body everyday, and some of it is pretty rancid stuff that has been there 20 or more years. Adding that to what the yeast are throwing off in the blood stream and yuck, we have troubles! The cabbage water (recipe in the files) re-establishes flora quickly if there is a half way decent envirenment for them to flourish. Raw apple cider vinegar feeds those flora to keep them flourishing.Because a body with Candida is in such stress, it NEEDS a good assimilatable buffered vitamin C and calcium/mag. Doc has the most wonderful recipe on file for lemon egg.I love this site for many reasons. One: it is FULL of support by people who have been through it or are going through it and have true compassion. It's a great support team. Two: Doc has done his best to provide self helps and how to's with complete instruction, as have others here. Which save's time and money. AND provides his services onlist or professionally as needed. Along with providing remedies we can trust if we can not provide them for ourselves. Three: This site is chalk full of thousands of gifted folks' idea's all over the world with what DID work for them.Using herbs can be as expensive or cheap as you decide to go. You can grow the herbs you need, buy them in bulk and encapsilate them or make them into your own tinctures. The directions are in the files.There are many herbs, and regimes that would help build your system up, clean it out and destroy systemic Candida. Diet changes, colon cleasnes, lemon egg, garlic, raw apple cider vinegar, capsicum and lots of it, a good stable colloidal silver, MSM and DMSO (for the carrying power to get to hiding yeast) would be where I personally would "start".I hope this helps gives you a clearer perspective.fft herbal remedies , Briasandia <briasandia> wrote:>> I looked up candida on the net and one site gave a home test by putting morning saliva in a glass of water and if it gets stringy or clouds the water this is indicative a a candida problem. Has anyone ever heard of this, is there any truth to this simple test? The site also recommended a herbal remedy called ThreeLac, at 50 bucks a bottle I was wondering if anyone has tried it with success. or perhaps there is a cheaper remedy I can use.> I appreciate any help,> Thanks,> Sandi> > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover> Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it!>