Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 There are lots of websites on making your own soaps. I prefere the melt and pour soap, because it has vegatable oils. The recipes that are from scratch have LYE and beef fat in them. For a start try www.bittercreeksoapsupplies.com, look for MELT AND POUR. Happy soaping, Megan Hi Candy! I would like to start making my own soap and get away from all the chemicals.. Any suggestions on where to start? Jeanne"C. Lucas" <clucas<herbal remedies >Re: Herbal Remedies - cosmetics etc.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:42:44 +0000Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release 1/6/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 I am shocked at your statement about recipes from scratch for handcrafted soap. I hate to tell you this, but all true soap starts out with lye (sodium hydroxide). It then goes through a process called " saponification " so that the end result no longer actually contains the lye - it has been changed. But you can't make soap without lye, first of all. Secondly, I made soap for thousands of customers, literally, for many years. I never ever used beef fat - and wouldn't even have a clue where to find such a thing. I used olive oil, coconut oil, palm oil, castor oil, emu oil, jojoba oil, to name a few, along with things like raw silk (untreated) fibers, and exotic " butters " like shea, cocoa, and mango. To that mixture, I then added different essential oils, for both fragrance and skin nutrition. Those were my recipes " from scratch " . A lot of Melt & Pour soap has chemicals added. But you probably knew that. Jeanne >Message: 13 > Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:35:17 -0500 (EST) > " M . " <solarflare9999 >Re: regarding home made soaps > > There are lots of websites on making your own soaps. I prefere the > melt and pour soap, because it has vegatable oils. The recipes that are > from scratch have LYE and beef fat in them. For a start try > www.bittercreeksoapsupplies.com, look for MELT AND POUR. > Happy soaping, > Megan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 > There are lots of websites on making your own soaps. I prefere the melt and pour soap, because it has vegatable oils. The recipes that are from scratch have LYE and beef fat in them. For a start try www.bittercreeksoapsupplies.com, look for MELT AND POUR. > Happy soaping, > Megan Sodium hydroxide (lye) is needed to make soap. ANY soap. Liquid soap requires potassium hydroxide. By using exact measurements, temperatures and quality ingredients you can make soap that is better than commercial varieties without synthetic the ingredients. Read the labels on the soap you buy at the grocery. Far from natural. The melt and pour soaps have come a long way with additions of moisturizers such as shea butter, etc. It is easy to use but not truly homemade. Think of buying a cake mix versus one made from scratch. You know exactly what is going into it when you make it yourself. A cold process soap is fairly easy to make WITHOUT using animal fats. Most all commercial soaps on the market are made with beef tallow. (The ingredient label sodium tallowate is beef fat combined with sodium hydroxide, lye.) Your grandmother's old fashioned lye soap was probably made with animal fat but today there are exotic vegetable oils readily available for the soapmaker. A basic soap recipe can be as easy as olive and coconut oil. Cold process handmade soaps can be made with luxurious oils and butters. You can add exfoliants of your choice- ground oatmeal, botanicals, etc. If you decide to scent your soaps be sure to use essential oils not only for the natural scent but also some therapeutic values. Remember, fragrance oils are synthetic. I would suggest getting a good book on basic soap making. The library should have some. HTH Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 There are lots of websites on making your own soaps. I prefere the melt and pour soap, because it has vegatable oils. The recipes that are from scratch have LYE and beef fat in them. For a start try www.bittercreeksoapsupplies.com, look for MELT AND POUR. Happy soaping, Megan Hi Megan, Not all homemade soaps are made with beef fat. All true soap is made with lye....lye causes the chemical reaction with oils to produce soap molecules. Without lye, you do not have true soap. Also, I wanted to let you know that melt & pour soap may have some vegetable oil in it, but melt and pour soap is made from man made (synthetic) cleansers. It really isn't soap. It's a syndet bar. Syndet = Synthetic Detergent. Here's a listing of the "melt and pour" ingredients from Bittercreek's website. Ultra Clear (Coconut Oil) Soap Base: (Updated as of 10-04-02) Common Names: 1. Coconut Oil - bleached & deodorized 2. Sodium Cocoate 3. Sodium Myristate 4. Sodium Laurate 5. Sodium Stearate 6. Sodium Laureth Sulfate 7. Glycerin (12-15%) 8. Propylene Glycol 9. Sucrose 10. Triethanolamine 11. Water The correct link for bittercreek is www.bittercreek.com then you will have the choice for Bitter Creek or Bitter Creek South. The above information was taken from Bitter Creek's site.....click here for more information. http://www.candlesupply.com/bathingredients.html There are folks out there that can't use this stuff. I am one of them. I have much better success with true soap than a syndet soap. Just thought I'd pass the info along to you and everyone else, just in case you are trying to avoid these ingredients. HTH, Candy Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release 1/13/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 So how do you turn it into the not lye stuff.What ha to be done. Please Pat --- BJ <pinemeadows wrote: > I am shocked at your statement about recipes from > scratch for handcrafted soap. > > I hate to tell you this, but all true soap starts > out with lye (sodium > hydroxide). It then goes through a process called > " saponification " so that > the end result no longer actually contains the lye - > it has been > changed. But you can't make soap without lye, first > of all. > > Secondly, I made soap for thousands of customers, > literally, for many > years. I never ever used beef fat - and wouldn't > even have a clue where > to find such a thing. I used olive oil, coconut > oil, palm oil, castor > oil, emu oil, jojoba oil, to name a few, along with > things like raw silk > (untreated) fibers, and exotic " butters " like shea, > cocoa, and mango. To > that mixture, I then added different essential oils, > for both fragrance and > skin nutrition. > > Those were my recipes " from scratch " . > > A lot of Melt & Pour soap has chemicals added. > But you probably knew that. > > Jeanne > > >Message: 13 > > Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:35:17 -0500 (EST) > > " M . " <solarflare9999 > >Re: regarding home made soaps > > > > There are lots of websites on making your own > soaps. I prefere the > > melt and pour soap, because it has vegatable oils. > The recipes that are > > from scratch have LYE and beef fat in them. For a > start try > > www.bittercreeksoapsupplies.com, look for MELT AND > POUR. > > Happy soaping, > > Megan > > > > > > > " Do not be afraid of enemies; the worst they can do is to kill you. Do not be afraid of friends; the worst they can do is betray you. Be afraid of the indifferent; they do not kill or betray. But only because of their silent agreement, betrayal and murder exist on earth. " - - -- Bruno Yasienski - " The Plot of the Indifferent " (1937) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hi Candy: This is long over due in responding. Thanks for all the tips on the soap. I guess I have to take another direction in soap making. First step is finding lye here in Mexico. Thanks again, Megan "Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release 1/13/2006 'The Earth does not belong to us we belong to the Earth" Chief SeattleTired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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