Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 This is what worked for me. For me, I found that my sluggish thyroid was not a product of any thyroid problems, but hormonal imbalence. That is really common after childbirth, and especially with all the hormones they put in foods. I quit all non organic milk and meat and had a ton more energy instantly. You can't do any of the cleanses while nursing, but that is something you can do. I do not fully understand how all the hormones tie together, but estrogen is tied into your thyroid, or rather the xeno estrogens in non organic food can slow your thyroid. It is an easy first step. Ramona Quoting Stephany <stephanyhoffelt: > I am hoping you can help me. I am about a year postpartum, still > nursing and my thyroid is really sluggish. What can I do while > nursing to help with this issue. I not wanting to take the advice of > the MD's here. > > Thanks in advance, > > Stephany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 stephany , this might not be along the lines of this group ... i dont know , BUT there is a herbal supplement out there called " thyromax " . you might want to google it . anyhow ... to make a long story short , while in massage school , i read , that the thyroid controls the medial nerve , which is responsible for carpal tunnel syndrome . for many years prior to finding this bit of info , i felt like my thyroid was not working properl;y . but the dr checked and always said , it was fine . well , according to my good friend charly [ he owned a healthfoodstore and was well educated ] the guidelines for the thyroid that the drs use are way of the rocker . and that a easy test [ taking your temperature every morning ] is much more accurate . anyhow , mycarpal tunnel was sooo awful in both arms , that he wanted to operate on both arms right away ! i dont like even touching this area of my body , its soo sensetive -- much less operate . after i started taking the thyromax -- a few days later -- i realised that my arms where NOT HURTING !! since i had noticed that eating certain things made the carpal worse ... i checked what i had eaten and the only difference i could come up with was the thyromax . now , if i dont take it for a while , maybe because i forgot or ran out of the pills , the carpal tunnel will remind me by starting to hurt after about a week or so of not taking it . but it only takes taking the pills for 3 days for the pain to go away . soo ,i know , my thyroid is not working properly --no matter what the dr wants to convince me otherwise . thyromax will work well . but if you have the blues , you might want to check your hormones and think about doing some natural hormone replacement , as in estroven . soymilk or whatever else is out there . [ have a story along those lines too ... ] hope this helps gab in fl Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/195 - Release 12/8/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thanks Ramona, But I am sure that mine is a thyroid problem. I guess that I should have talked a bit about our diet because I have ruled that out as a cause. I do not drink milk at all because of those types of issues causing me to have eczema. The rest of my family does drink organic milk. We are quazi vegetarians, we generally only eat fish. I will on occasion have meat but we buy our meat from our local health food store when we do. Here in Iowa, there are all sorts of little farms that raise organic meat so it is pretty easy to come by. We eat organic foods for the most part. Our vegetables and the like we grow in our garden and my flour, beans, rice, oatmeal,cheese, etc. we buy in bulk from a local natural foods buying club. We don't don't processed foods or food dyes at all because of the reaction that my four-year-old son has to them. I even make my own bread and garden burgers here at home. A typical day's food for me generally includes a bowl of oatmeal in the morning. I make it with unsweeteened apple juice and cinnamon. The for lunch we usually have brown rice in some form. Sometimes I mix in steamed vegetables, sometimes we have beans and rice. Today I think I am going to make a lentil and rice soup. Dinners vary and may include pastas but we buy organic, whole grain pasta or rice noodles. In an average day I have no sugar, I haven't had a soda in months. I will drink a cup of tea or coffee but not on a regular basis. I usually just drink water and I love spicy vegetable juice. I am only going into this in such detail because I feel I have a fairly decent diet and it is very frustrating for me that I don't feel better. Sorry for such a lengthy post. Stephany herbal remedies , ramona@r... wrote: I > quit all non organic milk and meat and had a ton more energy instantly. You > can't do any of the cleanses while nursing, but that is something you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 herbal remedies , " gabriele " <gcliburn@t...> wrote: > > > thyromax will work well . but if you have the blues , you might want to > check your hormones and think about doing some natural hormone replacement , > as in estroven . soymilk or whatever else is out there . [ have a story > along those lines too ... ] > > hope this helps > > gab in fl > Thanks gab, I will look into both of these things. I have been struggling with PPD but I have just looked at this as a symptom of the hypothyroidism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Hi Stephany, You certainly do have an excellent diet. Just one remark, which I learned about from Doc, and this concerns Enzyme Inhibitors. You can read his articles on file on the group's sit, called The Hidden Influence, and the articles on sprouting. love Lisa - Stephany herbal remedies Friday, December 09, 2005 3:59 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - I have a thyroid question Dr. S Thanks Ramona,But I am sure that mine is a thyroid problem. I guess that I should have talked a bit about our diet because I have ruled that out as a cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Stephany,Have you been diagnosed by anyone?? I'm asking because even a year post-partum, especially during BF your hormone levels may not be "normal". If I am correct, during lactation the hormone levels can mimic a sluggish thyroid. Doc, does this have anything to do with the prolactn levels in the mother's body."I would not try anything related to getting your thyroid without talking to Doc or a board certified lactation consultan (IBCLC) first, since the thyroid plays a significant role in lactationAnother issue could be postpartum thyroiditis in which the thyroid becomes inflamed. It has two phases - hyperthyroid then hypothyroid - the later showing up 3 - 9 month post-partum. Again, I consult with Doc or an IBCLC.Tammi U.Stephany <stephanyhoffelt wrote: Thanks Ramona, But I am sure that mine is a thyroid problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 herbal remedies , Tammi <wundrfulworld> wrote: > > Stephany, > > Have you been diagnosed by anyone?? The ND I saw recommended doing an iodine patch test in which I put iodine on my skin and watched to see if it was absorbed which it was very quickly. He recommended Kelp tablets from GNC which I have been taking with not many results. I have talked to a lactation consultant whose advice was to go to a conventional MD and get put on syntroid. I am aware that this could all be due to breastfeeding. I have afterall been breastfeeding for over four years now and I am sure that is taking its toll on my body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Many Doctors do not realize that the lab values for thyroid levels have been lowered. So now a TSH over 3 is considered hypothyroid. The value use to be over 5. Plus many people do better being on the low side of normal than on the higher side. Since I have no thyroid I now take synthroid but replace some of it with a product called " Raw Thyroid". I got it from "Wilderness Family Naturals", Finland, MN, although I have seen it else where. This is raw bovine thyroid. I feel much better taking this verses taking just synthroid alone. Personally if I could I would only take natural raw thyroid instead of the synthetic thyroid replacement. the temperature test is really a good way to see if you are hypothyroid. Best to take it first thing in the morning before you get out of bed. Should be above 98 and less than 99. Kimi~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I do not ask that Thou should give me some high or noble task. Give melittle hands to fold in mine. Give me little children to point Thy way, overthe strange, sweet path that leads to You. Give me little voices to teach topray. Give me shining eyes Thy face to see. The only crown I ask to wear isthis, that I may teach my children. I do not ask that I may stand among thewise, the worthy, or the great; I only ask that softly, hand in hand mychildren and I may enter at the gate."-Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Stephany, I live in Iowa, and I have been unable to find any place that sells organic meat. I've switched nearly everything else to organic and rarely eat meat because I can't find it organic. I live in Southwest Iowa and have done all kinds of searches. I can't find a good source that's close enough to make it feasible. My local CSA farm is wonderful for fruits and veggies, but they don't do any kind of animal products. If you know of any places near me that sell organic meat, please let me know. You can email me off-list with the information if you like. Terri - Stephany <stephanyhoffelt herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - I have a thyroid question Dr. S Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:59:02 -0000 > > Thanks Ramona, > > But I am sure that mine is a thyroid problem. > > I guess that I should have talked a bit about our diet because I > have ruled that out as a cause. I do not drink milk at all because > of those types of issues causing me to have eczema. The rest of my > family does drink organic milk. We are quazi vegetarians, we > generally only eat fish. I will on occasion have meat but we buy > our meat from our local health food store when we do. Here in Iowa, > there are all sorts of little farms that raise organic meat so it is > pretty easy to come by. We eat organic foods for the most part. > Our vegetables and the like we grow in our garden and my flour, > beans, rice, oatmeal,cheese, etc. we buy in bulk from a local > natural foods buying club. We don't don't processed foods or food > dyes at all because of the reaction that my four-year-old son has to > them. I even make my own bread and garden burgers here at home. > > A typical day's food for me generally includes a bowl of oatmeal in > the morning. I make it with unsweeteened apple juice and cinnamon. > The for lunch we usually have brown rice in some form. Sometimes I > mix in steamed vegetables, sometimes we have beans and rice. Today I > think I am going to make a lentil and rice soup. Dinners vary and > may include pastas but we buy organic, whole grain pasta or rice > noodles. In an average day I have no sugar, I haven't had a soda > in months. I will drink a cup of tea or coffee but not on a regular > basis. I usually just drink water and I love spicy vegetable > juice. > > I am only going into this in such detail because I feel I have a > fairly decent diet and it is very frustrating for me that I don't > feel better. Sorry for such a lengthy post. > > Stephany > > > > > > herbal remedies , ramona@r... wrote: > I > > quit all non organic milk and meat and had a ton more energy > instantly. You > > can't do any of the cleanses while nursing, but that is something > you can do. " A ship is safe in a harbor - but that's not what ships were made to do " -- _ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Wow. Basal temp should be above 98? When I was trying to get pregnant with my second child, I did basal temp monitoring for about six months. Mine never, ever reached 98. Usually it was in the upper 96 to low 97. Hmmmm... Terri -Kimi herbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - I have a thyroid question Dr. SFri, 9 Dec 2005 16:25:40 -0600 Many Doctors do not realize that the lab values for thyroid levels have been lowered. So now a TSH over 3 is considered hypothyroid. The value use to be over 5. Plus many people do better being on the low side of normal than on the higher side. Since I have no thyroid I now take synthroid but replace some of it with a product called " Raw Thyroid". I got it from "Wilderness Family Naturals", Finland, MN, although I have seen it else where. This is raw bovine thyroid. I feel much better taking this verses taking just synthroid alone. Personally if I could I would only take natural raw thyroid instead of the synthetic thyroid replacement. the temperature test is really a good way to see if you are hypothyroid. Best to take it first thing in the morning before you get out of bed. Should be above 98 and less than 99. Kimi~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I do not ask that Thou should give me some high or noble task. Give melittle hands to fold in mine. Give me little children to point Thy way, overthe strange, sweet path that leads to You. Give me little voices to teach topray. Give me shining eyes Thy face to see. The only crown I ask to wear isthis, that I may teach my children. I do not ask that I may stand among thewise, the worthy, or the great; I only ask that softly, hand in hand mychildren and I may enter at the gate."-Anonymous<< 197870_c.jpg >>"A ship is safe in a harbor - but that's not what ships were made to do" -- _Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 They are all over if your know where to look. Look through these links, it looks to me as though you should be able to find some things in your area even http://www.agriculture.state.ia.us/list1.html www.iowa-natural-meats.com/ www.eatwild.com/ HTH Stephany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Terri, You can go to blackwing.com and they will ship direct to you and their meat is wonderful. I love it because I can get wild, organic meat, like bison and venison. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 My body temp is stuck at 96.8° F. Ever since I went thru andropause my internal thermostat has been on high but my temp is always low. Is there a herbal for this malady?. I am so hot I cannot cuddle and spoon anymore and I miss that closeness. LoveBob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - maddress herbal remedies Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:45 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - I have a thyroid question Dr. S Wow. Basal temp should be above 98? When I was trying to get pregnant with my second child, I did basal temp monitoring for about six months. Mine never, ever reached 98. Usually it was in the upper 96 to low 97. Hmmmm... Terri SNIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 herbal remedies , maddress@m... wrote: > > > I live in Iowa, and I have been unable to find any place that sells >organic meat. I've switched nearly everything else to organic and >rarely eat meat because I can't find it organic. I live in >Southwest Iowa and have done all kinds of searches. > Terri ******* Have you tried: http://www.localharvest.org/ They have a search box where you can look by city/zip code or state... Might be worth a try if you haven't checked it yet? Jan / Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Are you far from Omaha? I live in Council Bluffs, Iowa. Ginazoomom9 <zoomom9 wrote: herbal remedies , maddress@m... wrote:>> > I live in Iowa, and I have been unable to find any place that sells >organic meat. I've switched nearly everything else to organic and >rarely eat meat because I can't find it organic. I live in >Southwest Iowa and have done all kinds of searches. > Terri*******Have you tried:http://www.localharvest.org/They have a search box where you can look by city/zip code or state...Might be worth a try if you haven't checked it yet?Jan / MichiganFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Bob, Are you certain that it's due to andropause? The reason I ask is that my boss was always hot. Winter and summer, he had an air conditioner running in his office. We all used to put a sweater or jacket on when we went in there. Recently, he was diagnosed with diabetes and has been taking medication and changing diet. Now that he blood sugar is lower, he's not quite so hot all the time. Just something to think about. Terri - " Staya Udanvti Bob Butler " <cherokeebo herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - I have a thyroid question Dr. S Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:13:42 -0700 > > > My body temp is stuck at 96.8° F. > Ever since I went thru andropause my internal thermostat has been > on high but my temp is always low. > Is there a herbal for this malady?. > I am so hot I cannot cuddle and spoon anymore and I miss that closeness. > > Love > Bob > Adageyudi > Staya Udanvti > - > maddress > herbal remedies > Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:45 AM > Re: Herbal Remedies - I have a thyroid question Dr. S > > > Wow. Basal temp should be above 98? When I was trying to get > pregnant with my second child, I did basal temp monitoring for > about six months. Mine never, ever reached 98. Usually it was in > the upper 96 to low 97. Hmmmm... > > > > Terri > > > > SNIP " A ship is safe in a harbor - but that's not what ships were made to do " -- _ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hi Terri! My temp problem started after my andropause. But I did have complications as I also had Heat Stroke for the third time. I am also overweight about 60 pounds because I do not get enough exercise. There's diabetes in my family so I keep a watchful eye on my blood sugar. LoveBob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti Bob,Are you certain that it's due to andropause? The reason I ask is that my boss was always hot. Winter and summer, he had an air conditioner running in his office. We all used to put a sweater or jacket on when we went in there. Recently, he was diagnosed with diabetes and has been taking medication and changing diet. Now that he blood sugar is lower, he's not quite so hot all the time. Just something to think about.Terri-"Staya Udanvti Bob Butler" <cherokeeboSat, 10 Dec 2005 21:13:42 -0700 My body temp is stuck at 96.8° F.SNIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Dear Stephany, I'd recommend whole heartedly that you get on the Total Nutrition Recipe as in the Files. The Iodine in the Kelp will help to stimulate your Thyroid. The Astragalus in the formula will help to not only improve your metabolism, but will assist in balancing hormones and building the immune system as well. In Health and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Stephany herbal remedies Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:43 PM Herbal Remedies - I have a thyroid question Dr. S I am hoping you can help me. I am about a year postpartum, still nursing and my thyroid is really sluggish. What can I do while nursing to help with this issue. I not wanting to take the advice of the MD's here.Thanks in advance,Stephany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Dear Stephany, You want to stay away from GNC. It is main line pharmaceutical and what they sell is crap. Get yourself on the Body Balance + and the Total Nutrition and this alone will help tremendously. Breast feeding takes a lot out of you. If your diet is deficient nutritionally, you're being starved. The two formulae above will go a long ways to handling that. In Health and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Stephany herbal remedies Friday, December 09, 2005 2:36 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - I have a thyroid question Dr. S herbal remedies , Tammi <wundrfulworld> wrote:>> Stephany,> > Have you been diagnosed by anyone?? The ND I saw recommended doing an iodine patch test in which I put iodine on my skin and watched to see if it was absorbed which it was very quickly. He recommended Kelp tablets from GNC which I have been taking with not many results. I have talked to a lactation consultant whose advice was to go to a conventional MD and get put on syntroid. I am aware that this could all be due to breastfeeding. I have afterall been breastfeeding for over four years now and I am sure that is taking its toll on my body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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