need help getting off chemical antidepresants and onto herbal

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i hate the way these pills make me feel. I used to do a natural

antidepresant combining st. johns wart and a few other things i can't

recall now. The issue is that i recall that i can not take st. johns

wart while the chemicals from my anti depresant are out of my system.

That can take a while and i'm not sure what to do during the process

of weaning myself off the chemicals.

 

ideas?

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Herbal Remedies - need help getting off chemical antidepresants and onto herbal

i hate the way these pills make me feel. I used to do a natural antidepresant combining st. johns wart and a few other things i can't recall now. The issue is that i recall that i can not take st. johns wart while the chemicals from my anti depresant are out of my system. That can take a while and i'm not sure what to do during the process of weaning myself off the chemicals.ideas?

[Guest guest]

It shouldnt' take that long for anti depressants to

leave the system. 2 weeks time or less for many of

them. I am not sure why they'd want you to wait on

taking the St. Johns until after it's completely

gone....if they interact it wouldnt be in a bad way, I

believe they counter act each other, and that wouldnt

matter since you're getting off one. But I'm no expert

in this particular matter.

 

Erin

 

--- red feather <xxx_red_feather_xxx wrote:

 

> i hate the way these pills make me feel. I used to

> do a natural

> antidepresant combining st. johns wart and a few

> other things i can't

> recall now. The issue is that i recall that i can

> not take st. johns

> wart while the chemicals from my anti depresant are

> out of my system.

> That can take a while and i'm not sure what to do

> during the process

> of weaning myself off the chemicals.

>

> ideas?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Erin

You can't take St. Johns Wort along with any Psy. meds it will have

serious effects, some have come close to death from the mix, it is not

because of the St. Johns Wort but the meds.As for 2 weeks, if she did

that she may be in the hospital. It can take as long as 6-8 weeks to

come off med dependency. Research will benefit in the long run on this

matter.

 

To the poster of this comment.

 

I speak from 13 years experience on this matter so please learn from

this.

 

I was on as many as 12 different meds at once for what I was told was

bi-polar. I am now drug free and have never had a problem and am in

better health for it.

 

Talk to your doctor and MAKE him understand YOUR choice for YOUR body.

doctors believe they control your body, and psy doctors are the worst

about this, they think they make the choice over YOUR body. YOU own,

control and live in the body not them, so DO NOT ask him to help you do

this, TELL him to help you.

 

You need to do this one med at a time two at most, have him give you the

dosing level for each week to drop off the meds. every week you will go

down more. after each med is down start the next. Many will tell you do

do all at once and in two weeks, if you present this to your doctor he

will refuse to help you and not take you seriously, you have to present

a sound solid reasonable choice in this matter, not a cold turkey kill

it now method as suggested.

 

As you come off the meds you will feel bad, I suggest drinking lots of

lemon water w/o sugar and taking panther piss every day twice a day.

 

Today right now go out and buy fish oil, organic would be best but if

you can't afford it get any. take no less then 6,000mg a day every day,

you can split it up to three doses. fish oil acts as a mood stabilizer

(please Google it) it has a similar effect as Prozac w/o the side

effects.

 

Vit B6 is perhaps natures anti-depressant. it is great for all mood

disorders. take no more then 50mg a day more and you will cause nerve

damage in hands and feet.

 

B12 has a similar effect as B6 the combo will not hurt but help.

 

Add a Bcomplex to the mix

 

C is important I take 6,000mg a day.

 

to get your memory back ginko baloba,

 

You can start all of the above right now and it will not hurt.

St. Johns Wort is not good for everyone and may not work.

 

Please be slow and careful in doing this. you can do it, but you have

got to present this in a sound matter or no one will take you seriously,

a two week crash will lead you in the funny room at the hospital.

I know first hand I did it.

Poneyboy

 

On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 14:56 -0800, Erin wrote:

> It shouldnt' take that long for anti depressants to

> leave the system. 2 weeks time or less for many of

> them. I am not sure why they'd want you to wait on

> taking the St. Johns until after it's completely

> gone....if they interact it wouldnt be in a bad way, I

> believe they counter act each other, and that wouldnt

> matter since you're getting off one. But I'm no expert

> in this particular matter.

>

> Erin

>

> --- red feather <xxx_red_feather_xxx wrote:

>

> > i hate the way these pills make me feel. I used to

> > do a natural

> > antidepresant combining st. johns wart and a few

> > other things i can't

> > recall now. The issue is that i recall that i can

> > not take st. johns

> > wart while the chemicals from my anti depresant are

> > out of my system.

> > That can take a while and i'm not sure what to do

> > during the process

> > of weaning myself off the chemicals.

> >

> > ideas?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I appologize for being incorrect, I was speaking from

personal experience as well. I was on psych meds for

over 10 years and never had withdrawal issues, and

also combined St. Johns Wort with Prozac, with the Dr

knowing, and it worked much better, enabling me to go

off the prozac completely after being on it 9 years.

 

My experience may not be the right thing for most

people though, so didnt mean to give bad advice

 

Erin

 

--- Tasana Computers <poneyboy wrote:

 

> Erin

> You can't take St. Johns Wort along with any Psy.

> meds it will have

> serious effects, some have come close to death from

> the mix, it is not

> because of the St. Johns Wort but the meds.As for 2

> weeks, if she did

> that she may be in the hospital. It can take as long

> as 6-8 weeks to

> come off med dependency. Research will benefit in

> the long run on this

> matter.

 

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freely. But, when the other person doesn't yet know that he needs your wisdom,

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Erin

It was not necessarily bad advice.

 

When I was 13 I started using street drugs and got into some heavy, hard

stuff (1982) I started smoking when I was about 10-11. I was using just

anything I could get my hands on.

Then in 86 I had a life changing event (Most can guess) and I stopped

the drugs and smoking that day, no slow system just stopped. I had

with-drawl but it was easy for me. Why I had a very devoted reason to

quit, the drive and will power were there for a different reason.

In your case of coming off meds you may have had a similar reason, maybe

not the same, perhaps kids, spouse, or a total devotion to help

yourself. In order to do that you had a devoted motivation.

I am not saying the poster of this message does not have the same drive,

what I was trying to say is we do not know her abilities or drive. and

she may have to take it slower then you did or I did when coming off

street drugs. You were not incorrect, it did and does work for some, and

others have a harder time.

as for St. Johns Wort. You were very fortunate. I do not know why any

doctor would have approved mixing this herb with that med, he did not do

his research. When I was first making the switch I asked doctors,

pharmacist and herbalist and they all replied NO. I Googled it and found

case after case of people doing some weird things when mixing. Once such

case, a woman was making a switch and her doctor approved the mix and

then about a week or so later she had disappeared. her husband found her

in the middle of a busy highway running between cars, she thought she

was God. There was case after case like this. St. Johns Wart has a

serious effect on the mind. My son takes it and it seems to help him,

but that is the last herb I suggest to people because of the effect it

can have. the list I posted for options has a much safer and lasting

effect.

I am sorry I was not more clear and led you to believe that you were

wrong, you weren't just keep in mind when giving advice to those wanting

to come off meds, suggest the slowest safest method. What I was

concerned about is if the posted tried what did work for you, or when I

came off street drugs, and ended up in hospital it may have had serious

drawbacks. I am all for people coming off meds and I will always give

that advice and I encourage you to continue to also, never give up on

what you believe, but remember as someone once said (some need milk

before they eat meat) you and I were able to pull up to the rib-eye, (if

your vegan sorry for the illustration) but some have to have a glass of

milk and it is always the best route to offer the milk first.

I hope you still help people to kick the meds and I have not discouraged

you in this, we need all the help we can get to get the people to better

health.

Poneyboy

(spell check is the greatest invention in e-mail clients and word

processors)

 

On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 09:59 -0800, Erin wrote:

> I appologize for being incorrect, I was speaking from

> personal experience as well. I was on psych meds for

> over 10 years and never had withdrawal issues, and

> also combined St. Johns Wort with Prozac, with the Dr

> knowing, and it worked much better, enabling me to go

> off the prozac completely after being on it 9 years.

>

> My experience may not be the right thing for most

> people though, so didnt mean to give bad advice

>

> Erin

>