Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 I'm just learning how to make tinictures. I am having trouble finding 100% proof vodka. Can you use 80% proof? Thats the highest proof I can find. Suzann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Everclear is available at most liquor stores and is 95% alcohol. Pamela --- suzann_sauseda <suzann_sauseda wrote: > I'm just learning how to make tinictures. I am > having trouble finding > 100% proof vodka. Can you use 80% proof? Thats the > highest proof I > can find. > > Suzann > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Just making sure...everclear will work making tinictures? Its my first time and I want to do it right.or at least try to. I'm excited about learning. Suzann > > Everclear is available at most liquor stores and is > 95% alcohol. > Pamela > > --- suzann_sauseda <suzann_sauseda> wrote: > > > I'm just learning how to make tinictures. I am > > having trouble finding > > 100% proof vodka. Can you use 80% proof? Thats the > > highest proof I > > can find. > > > > Suzann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 I have successfully used Everclear in making tinctures - it is almost pure alcohol by volume. Good luck Pamela --- suzann_sauseda <suzann_sauseda wrote: > Just making sure...everclear will work making > tinictures? > Its my first time and I want to do it right.or > at least try to. > I'm excited about learning. > > Suzann > > > > Everclear is available at most liquor stores and > is > > 95% alcohol. > > Pamela > > > > --- suzann_sauseda <suzann_sauseda> wrote: > > > > > I'm just learning how to make tinictures. I am > > > having trouble finding > > > 100% proof vodka. Can you use 80% proof? Thats > the > > > highest proof I > > > can find. > > > > > > Suzann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > > http://farechase. > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 In researching this, I found that if you use Everclear (grain alcohol), you should cut it 50% with water because it is so strong. It is not available everywhere and when I bought it at the liquor store, they warned me that it is very dangerous to drink. I explained what I wanted it for but they seemed sceptical. I did cut it 50% with filtered water and my tinctures came out just fine. Jackie herbal remedies , cscg2000 <cscg2000> wrote: > > I have successfully used Everclear in making tinctures > - it is almost pure alcohol by volume. Good luck > Pamela > > --- suzann_sauseda <suzann_sauseda> wrote: > > > Just making sure...everclear will work making > > tinictures? > > Its my first time and I want to do it right.or > > at least try to. > > I'm excited about learning. > > > > Suzann > > > > > > Everclear is available at most liquor stores and > > is > > > 95% alcohol. > > > Pamela > > > > > > --- suzann_sauseda <suzann_sauseda> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm just learning how to make tinictures. I am > > > > having trouble finding > > > > 100% proof vodka. Can you use 80% proof? Thats > > the > > > > highest proof I > > > > can find. > > > > > > > > Suzann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > > one click. > > > http://farechase. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Pamela, grain alcohol is actually illegal in many states, I live in NY and can't get it here. However, you can ask any liquor store to order you 100% vodka. Make sure you get it in glass bottles, not plastic which many come in. I order mine by the case, I find the stores stock the plastic bottles, so they always need to order for me. you can use 80% proof, but for most herbs the medicine in the herbs extracts better in a 100% proof. Bonnie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Jackie, when you cut the grain alcohol you want to use distilled water and not filtered water. you do not know what is in the filtered water and distilled water will pull the medicine from the herbs much better than filtered water which is full of minerals that may be harmful and spoil your tincture. Bonnie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Would Everclear, which I am told is stocked by liquor stores be comparable to 100% proof vodka and just as suitable for tinctures? I've only used 80 proof in the past. --- Bonnie Rogers <bonnierogers wrote: > Pamela, > grain alcohol is actually illegal in many states, I > live in NY and can't get > it here. However, you can ask any liquor store to > order you 100% vodka. > Make sure you get it in glass bottles, not plastic > which many come in. I > order mine by the case, I find the stores stock the > plastic bottles, so > they always need to order for me. you can use 80% > proof, but for most herbs > the medicine in the herbs extracts better in a 100% > proof. > > Bonnie > > > > Best regards, Carol _______________________________ Never Accept Only Two Choices in Life. The problems of Today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them. -Al Einstein. FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Question answered, thank you. --- Jackie <willow16 wrote: > In researching this, I found that if you use > Everclear (grain alcohol), you should cut it 50% > with water because it is so strong. It is not > available everywhere and when I bought it at > the liquor store, they warned me that it is very > dangerous to drink. I explained what I > wanted it for but they seemed sceptical. I did cut > it 50% with filtered water and my > tinctures came out just fine. > > Jackie > > herbal remedies , cscg2000 > <cscg2000> wrote: > > > > I have successfully used Everclear in making > tinctures > > - it is almost pure alcohol by volume. Good luck > > Pamela > > > > --- suzann_sauseda <suzann_sauseda> wrote: > > > > > Just making sure...everclear will work making > > > tinictures? > > > Its my first time and I want to do it > right.or > > > at least try to. > > > I'm excited about learning. > > > > > > Suzann > > > > > > > > Everclear is available at most liquor stores > and > > > is > > > > 95% alcohol. > > > > Pamela > > > > > > > > --- suzann_sauseda <suzann_sauseda> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm just learning how to make tinictures. I > am > > > > > having trouble finding > > > > > 100% proof vodka. Can you use 80% proof? > Thats > > > the > > > > > highest proof I > > > > > can find. > > > > > > > > > > Suzann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites > in > > > one click. > > > > http://farechase. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > > http://farechase. > > > > > > > > > Best regards, Carol _______________________________ Never Accept Only Two Choices in Life. The problems of Today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them. -Al Einstein. FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Thanks, Bonnie. I have used Everclear for many years and did not realize there might be an issue in getting it elsewhere. Pamela FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Everclear is 95% alcohol 100 proof is 50% alcohol and 80 proof is 40 % alcohol they all extract differently. If you go to Michael Moores herbal website you will see what he recommends using to extract from different herbs. Bonnie Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 If you have the equipment and the time, you can produce 100% ethanol from any plant. Just need the sterilized plant/water mixture such as obtained after steam distilling off the essential oils (preferably under a vacuum to not destroy the alkaloids). Then add brewer's yeast and some sugar and let it ferment. Multiple distillations are then required to obtain the pure alcohol. Or if you have access to grape vines you can make wine and then distill the alcohol from the wine. Check local laws to make sure that this process isn't illegal in your area. But it is much faster and less time intensive to just buy some Everclear Plus it takes a lot of fresh plant material to produce a sufficient batch of ethanol. Just my 2 cents Tim Bonnie Rogers wrote: Everclear is 95% alcohol 100 proof is 50% alcohol and 80 proof is 40 % alcohol they all extract differently. If you go to Michael Moores herbal website you will see what he recommends using to extract from different herbs. Bonnie Rogers Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release 10/28/2005 -- Thank you for your time and energy, Tim Buckner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Hi There must be a way of making Tinctures without alcohol. Anyone with a Liver disease, alcohol is deadly to them!. Regards Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 I believe the amount of alcohol your taking in is so minut it really doesnt matter the other thing that you can do is drop it in warm water and the alcohol will evaporate. GinaJeffrey Sutton <suttjef wrote: HiThere must be a way of making Tinctures without alcohol. Anyone with a Liverdisease, alcohol is deadly to them!.RegardsJeff FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Organic apple cider vinegar will work and works better with some herbs than alcohol. You might not get the same separation, but it's an alternative. Does anyone else know of something that would work? Tim Jeffrey Sutton wrote: Hi There must be a way of making Tinctures without alcohol. Anyone with a Liver disease, alcohol is deadly to them!. Regards Jeff Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release 10/31/2005 -- Thank you for your time and energy, Tim Buckner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Organic Apple Cider vinegar is usually used for the softer herbs. And alcohol is used for the harder herbs, like some barks and roots. Alcohol has more pulling power but ACV helps move the tincture through the body more efficiently and has beneficial properties on it own. In Doc Shillington's Liver-Gallbladder tincture (listed below), it is made with alcohol. And I know he uses this on some pretty sick people. So I am sure the little bit of alcohol used wouldn't be a problem. As long as there is sufficient amount of herbs in the formula and the alcohol has at least 2 weeks to pull out the healing properties of the herbs, I don't think it should be a problem. The first thing to do with any liver problems is to do some serious intestinal cleansing. This will lighten the load on the liver and make it's job as a body detoxifier much easier. (Doc's file have a great intestinal cleanse) Rob The following is the formula I use when making my Liver / Gallbladder / PancreasFormula Tincture. Use 100 proof Vodka or a 50% alcohol mixture for your extraction.As with all my formulae, a part is a part by volume and not by weight unlessotherwise specified.Liver / Gallbladder / Pancreas Formula3 - Parts Milk Thistle Seed1 - Part Dandelion Root & Leaf1 - Part Oregon Grape Root1 - Part Gentian Root1 - Part Wormwood Leaf and Flower1 - Part Black Walnut Hulls1 - Part Ginger Root1 - Part Fresh Garlic1 - Part Fennel SeedLove,Doc herbal remedies [herbal remedies ]On Behalf Of Tim BucknerTuesday, November 01, 2005 10:07 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Making tinicturesOrganic apple cider vinegar will work and works better with some herbs than alcohol. You might not get the same separation, but it's an alternative. Does anyone else know of something that would work?TimJeffrey Sutton wrote: HiThere must be a way of making Tinctures without alcohol. Anyone with a Liverdisease, alcohol is deadly to them!.RegardsJeff Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release 10/31/2005 -- Thank you for your time and energy, Tim Buckner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Hubby is a recovering alcoholic (12 years now!) and he will not touch anything remotely related to alcohol.Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: I believe the amount of alcohol your taking in is so minut it really doesnt matter the other thing that you can do is drop it in warm water and the alcohol will evaporate. GinaJeffrey Sutton <suttjef wrote: HiThere must be a way of making Tinctures without alcohol. Anyone with a Liverdisease, alcohol is deadly to them!.RegardsJeff FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Thank you for the clarification Rob. I always wondered why ACV was used in some preparations while alcohol was used in others. Someone brought it up in an earlier response to this thread that the alcohol will be mostly evaporated in a hot beverage. I completely forgot about that fact and I'm glad they caught that. I'm so glad I joined this group. I learn something new every time I open my email. Tim Rob Combis wrote: Organic Apple Cider vinegar is usually used for the softer herbs. And alcohol is used for the harder herbs, like some barks and roots. Alcohol has more pulling power but ACV helps move the tincture through the body more efficiently and has beneficial properties on it own. In Doc Shillington's Liver-Gallbladder tincture (listed below), it is made with alcohol. And I know he uses this on some pretty sick people. So I am sure the little bit of alcohol used wouldn't be a problem. As long as there is sufficient amount of herbs in the formula and the alcohol has at least 2 weeks to pull out the healing properties of the herbs, I don't think it should be a problem. The first thing to do with any liver problems is to do some serious intestinal cleansing. This will lighten the load on the liver and make it's job as a body detoxifier much easier. (Doc's file have a great intestinal cleanse) Rob The following is the formula I use when making my Liver / Gallbladder / Pancreas Formula Tincture. Use 100 proof Vodka or a 50% alcohol mixture for your extraction. As with all my formulae, a part is a part by volume and not by weight unless otherwise specified. Liver / Gallbladder / Pancreas Formula 3 - Parts Milk Thistle Seed 1 - Part Dandelion Root & Leaf 1 - Part Oregon Grape Root 1 - Part Gentian Root 1 - Part Wormwood Leaf and Flower 1 - Part Black Walnut Hulls 1 - Part Ginger Root 1 - Part Fresh Garlic 1 - Part Fennel Seed Love, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 100 proof vodka is 50% alcohol everclear is 190 proof and is 95% alcohol. quite a difference. Bonnie > Would Everclear, which I am told is stocked by liquor > stores be comparable to 100% proof vodka and just as > suitable for tinctures? > > I've only used 80 proof in the past. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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