RE: Keven Truduea's Natural Cures Book

August 14, 2005

Six Flavor Tea = Liu Wei Di Huang = Rehamania 6

Classical Chinese herbal formula from " Craft of Medicinal

Treatment for Childhood Disease Patterns " Used to treat YIN

Deficiency of the Kidneys. (TCM)

Every acupuncturist and Chinese herbalist will know this

formula. There are hundreds of variations (additions and

substitutions) for a wide range of disorders.

For example for " Wasting and thirsting disorders " which is

associated with the western diagnosis of diabetes it is a

standard prescribed formula. Widely available off the shelf

from $1.00 a bottle Chinese honey tea-pills to pricey

new-age packaging $30 and up. Newly introduced in liquid gel

capsules manufactured to GMP highest quality standards.

For Wasting and thirsting disorders a typical modification

is omitting the Rhizoma Alismatis (Ze Xie) and substituting

Tian Hua Fen in a larger doses (30 grams)

Caution is advised with a white greasy tongue; indigestion,

diarrhea (Spleen Deficiency)

I would note that since this formula is widely known and

used extensively to treat " Wasting and thirsting disorders "

it is not a cure for diabetes - where the disease has long

been established. TCM's hallmark is more to prevention of

diseases than to cure. TCM philosophy is akin to digging a

well before one is thirsty.

The notable success of this particular formula can be taken

form the title of the book in which the formula was first

described and the condition/symptoms prescribed for its use.

Most (American) children exhibit YIN Deficient signs and

symptoms and a course of TCM herbals may well lead to

prevention of " Wasting and thirsting disorders " . Diabetes

appears to be on a rapid rise in all categories - and more

so in late-stage adult onset diabetes. Yin Deficiency is a

pattern commonly seen in older populations and here- again-

a course of TCM herbals may well lead to prevention of

" Wasting and thirsting disorders " in those groups as well.

For a overview of TCM and Diabetes see

http://www.acupuncture.com/herbs/diabetesherb.htm

Although you may not recognize [six Flavor Tea = Liu Wei Di

Huang = Rehamania 6] its variations are included within the

modern adoption of treatment and is the foundation of

treatment for treatment.

as a footnote to Kelli's post here are the amounts

Cooked Radix Rehmanniae (Shu Di Huang) 240 grams

Fructus Corni Officinalis (Shan Zhu Yu), 120 g

Radix Dioscoreae Oppositae (Shan Yao), 120 g

Rhizoma Alismatis (Ze Xie) 90 g

Sclerotium Poriae Cocos (Fu Ling) 90 g

Cortex Radicis Moutan (Dan Pi). 90 g

original preparation: grind ingredients into powder and form

into pills with honey [raw honey] take in 9 gram doses 3x a

day. When prepared as a decoction 1/10 of the specified

dosage is used. When prepared as a decoction honey is

typically omitted.

NOTE for herbalist: of the six herbs listed above combine to

form a formula specific to treat YIN deficient yet not one

herb is from the category of herbs that specifically treat

the YIN. Here the whole is greater than the sum...

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

Acupuncture is a jab well done

Ed Kasper, the Happyherbalist

Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:23:50 -0700

" Kelli " <kelli

RE: Keven Truduea's " Natural Cures " Book

For Doc and anyone who is interested, I googled " Dr. Yung Su

Kim " . The only

website with those exact words was a discussion list, mostly

of people who

had read Kevin's book who wanted to know who this doctor was

and where they

could reach him for help with diabetes. One woman wrote in

to say that this

doctor's name had been misspelled in Kevin's book. His

name, she says, is

really Dr. Youngsoo Kim. He can be found at

www.thetruthaboutdiabetes.info

<http://www.thetruthaboutdiabetes.info/> . He sells and

also gives

information on making " Six Flavor Tea " . The ingredients for

this, as listed

on his website, are:

Cooked Radix Rehmanniae (Shu Di)

Fructus Corni Officinalis (Shan Zhu Yu),

Radix Dioscoreae Oppositae (Shan Yao),

Rhizoma Alismatis (Ze Xie)

Sclerotium Poriae Cocos (Fu Ling)

Cortex Radicis Moutan (Dan Pi).

The basic instructions given are to powder the herbs and

then cook a heaping

tablespoon of the mixture in 2.5 cups of water for 1-2 hours

over low heat

and then drink the remaining tea three times a day on an

empty stomach. It

is stated that the leftover sediment can be save and reused

2 -3 times. It

is also stated that an alternative way of preparing the tea

is in the

microwave (what?????), in a thermos, or directly eating the

herbs. I don't

know enough about these herbs to know how they would be

beneficial, but I

did want to pass along the information I was able to find.

Have a Joyous Day!

Kelli

August 17, 2005

Wellllllllllll, I appreciate the feedback on this.

It's kinda sad when a natural healer goes over to the "Dark Side", and starts getting money hungry rather than staying "Help" motivated.

Don't get me wrong. I've got nothing against anyone making a decent living using one's talents. If one is going to supply a service, they should be paid for it. However, a good way to turn a person criminal (including children) is to keep on giving them something for nothing and allowing them to go out exchange. I do a lot of work that is gratis (including this list but when working one on one, I always charge for the service, even if my fee is for some kind of trade or exchange.

We have become a welfare nation, and too often people have been trained to look for the handout rather than taking responsibility for their condition.

On the other hand, the pendulum can swing to the other side and you have a lot of con men out there who are doing nothing more than selling a bill of goods. The psychiatrist undeniably falls into this category. So do most medical doctors who are trying to handle illnesses of a chronic nature with drugs. The pharmaceutical companies are the greatest drug pushers in the world today.

A good way to hook people is to give them a mystery or intimate there is a BIG secret that they need to know. In marketing, this is known as a mystery sandwich. ;-) Welllllll, it seems as if Mr. Trudeau's book is exactly that.

There are others like Dr. Richard Schulze who though they have not gone over to the "Dark Side" have gone off the deep end. When Schulzie started promoting promiscuity and free love and open marriages, and furthermore then blamed the entirety of 911 on ALL Organized Religions, I knew he'd gone off the deep end and lost it. As I said, it's sad when you see Natural Healing take a blow like this, when a supposed opinion leader shows that he truly doesn't have what it takes to stay the course.

Dr. Thompson, Dr. Hoxey, Dr. John Christopher and Dr. Bernard Jensen on the other hand, never let their ethics or intergrity slide. These men were true blue to the end, and are still some of the best sources of natural healing information that I know of.

Again, thanks for the input on Trudeau.

Love,

Doc

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reiki3gal

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Friday, August 12, 2005 7:56 AM

Herbal Remedies - Re: Keven Truduea's " Natural Cures " Book

I also found nothing of value in it! A total rip-off imo. My friend purchased the book also because she has diabetes & she was madderthan a wet hen, I can tell you! He rants & raves about "them"; doing exactly what he accuses big gov/drug industry/dcotors of doing...promises, promises, promises! He points a lot of fingers, so guess this is what the woman was refering to...facts she was unaware of...I didn't find anything thatI haven't seen on this board or other reputable/honest health sites.So, if it helps anyone to "wake up", I agree it did have SOME use...BUT, that is NOT how this book was hyped.BUT!!!!!! IF you PAY to join his website & PAY for his newsletter, well then, you get let in on all these secrets! He touted his all natural regimen [no supplements] of super green foods, algaes, sprouts...but it's NOT in the book. HE cannot tell anyone! However,he does give names & email addy's of his 3 docs who can tell you, so I emailed one of them & asked what this regimen was & where it was available.I got back a LOOOOOOOOONG email with mind numbing hype for everything "this" guy was into [must be getting ready to write & push his own book] and a small note at the end saying he didn't believe in taking ANY natural food powders etc. and to ask another one of Trudeau's expert "docs"! THIS from a man that Kevin himself said was "legally able" to give the information & agreed with him & his book!I now see a NEW infomercial from Kevin...his NEW book has ALL the SECRETS he couldn't tell before! Guess "Big Gov" finally untied his hands...yeah, like I believe that! IF this is truly the case & IF he really has this "amazing secret to cure all diseases", he ought tosend it FREE to all the buyers of the original book in which he CLAIMED these secrets were! Believe me, I'm not holding my breath til my copy comes!herbal remedies , "Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington@K...> wrote:> Yes, sometimes a person's contribution to the world around them is simply to get others to think and be aware of existing situations. If that's all his book does, it is worthwhile.> > Love,> > Doc

August 17, 2005

Ahhhhhhhhhh, the guy's a thief???

Welllllllll, just another con man then, who's doing nothing more than selling a bill of goods!!!

Love,

Doc

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Cindy

herbal remedies

Friday, August 12, 2005 9:02 PM

Herbal Remedies - Re: Keven Truduea's " Natural Cures " Book

herbal remedies , "Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington@K...> wrote:> What was he in Prison for???> If it was for standing up for his beliefs, then this is a plus point, not a negative.> I still want to know the names and combinations of the herbs he uses for handling Diabetes.> Love,> Doc> Trudeau has been the target of several FTC regulatory actions and has served time in prison for credit card fraud. Cindy

August 17, 2005

Thanks for your input Krys. I've come to the conclusion that he's just another con man out to make a quick buck.

Love,

Doc

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harlydane @msn.com

herbal remedies

Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:22 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Keven Truduea's " Natural Cures " Book

Here's a quote from the book: "...a combination of herbs researched at the University of Calgary for over twenty years, called by the Asian Diabetic Association the final cure for Diabetes. I am forbidden by the Federal Trade Commission to mention the product by brand name; however, the person I interviewed who told me about this was Dr. Yung Su Kim, a Korean living in Canada."

Sounds like maybe he's talking about Essiac.

Krys

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Dr. Ian Shillington

herbal remedies

Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:05 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Keven Truduea's " Natural Cures " Book

I'd be interested in the combo of herbs as well.

If anyone has read it and knows what they are, I'd like to hear it.

Love,

Doc

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joebrownn1

herbal remedies

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:41 PM

Herbal Remedies - Keven Truduea's " Natural Cures " Book

In his informercial, Keven Trudeau stated that the Asian Diabetes Association claimed that a combination of herbs was a cure for Diabetes.I haven't purchased the book yet but would like to know:A) The website address for the Asian Diabetes Association,B) The names of the combination of herbs.Thank You in advance.JB