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At 04:25 PM 9/8/03 +0000, you wrote:

> And all I can say, is

>that on the strength of those two conversations, I wouldn't want to

>waste my money on membership. Again, the HSMG make the recent events in

>NAHA look like child's play.

 

there's a called

 

soapguild · The list discusses issues with the Handcrafted Soapmakers'

Guild and offers a supportive forum for creating new organizations.

 

it is for members, former members, non members etc of the guild... a LOT of

former members participate... quite obviously it's not the official

'members only' list...

 

but you can get a LOT of info about present and past problems with the guild.

 

there were high hopes last year when a totally new board took over.

 

the hoped for changes didn't materialize...

 

I was a member... did a couple of presentations at the second gathering...

in Michigan...(or was it Minnesota???)... was a LONG time ago.

 

left a really really bad taste in my mouth...but that was several

administrations ago, and I was hopeful that things would get better.

 

they didn't.

 

 

 

 

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