Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Hi Diana, > I have a question then, since this thread continues. The oregano oil/ > olive oil drops in my cats mouths had such profoundly good effects on > my cats when they were so ill. One was so sick she couldn't eat and > was coughing and within 15 minutes she was hungry, eating and acting > normal again. Glad to here the kitty got better. :-p > Then for the kitten who was having the breathing attack due to the bot > fly larvae in his neck, the oregano oil/ olive oil saved his life, > started him breathing through his nose again and gave him the immunity > to fight the larvae until I got it out of him two days later. I am one of the most fanatic believers in the powers of Oregano EO but I wonder if, in fact, the Oregano/Olive Oil really was the cause for the above. I really doubt the immediate strengthening of the immune system. > He was even playing with it in his neck after the oregano oil. I've > heard folks say those larvae kill creatures like bunnies, etc. Maybe they kill tame rabbits .. I don't know. But rarely do they kill wild rabbits because in the summer almost all wild rabbits have them. I grew up on a farm and we used to chase rabbits through the wheat stubble after the combine ran over it .. we had the advantage then. It was like maybe 2 out of 10 rabbits we caught that did not have a larvae in them. The rabbits with larvae were released .. the others were our supper that night. But there never was a shortage of rabbits so I must assume they didn't die from the larvae. > I'm glad that I did use the oil because he is still alive. I'm also glad the kitty is still alive. :-) > I guess my question is if it's so bad, then why did it work so well? > Diana IF Oregano EO can be given all the credit for the miraculous EO the reason the kitty got well instead of having problems might be something we will never know .. but there was a bit of luck in there too. There is a long history of kill or cure treatments in the USA .. they were used on humans. Toxic substances for sure .. like mercury and very toxic plants were used .. even today, chemotherapy and radiation is not a lot different. So .. there is a matter of luck and the fact that most of the things we are warned to not use are not products that will kill the animal immediately. I am convinced that the information found on Lavender Cat's site .. at http://www.thelavendercat.com/generic.html?pid=17 is accurate and its sufficient for me to recommend against use of EOs with cats/ When I weas child there was a common rumor .. which I never knew of anyone testing .. but it comes back now as perhaps having a basis in fact. The rumor was that if one rubbed a cigarette filter on a cat's nose after the cigarette had been smoked .. the cat would get sick or die. Now it makes a bit of sense to me. Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 , Diana of Dewberry Hill <I'm glad that I did use the oil because he is still alive. I guess my question is if it's so bad, then why did it work so well? > > Diana > > Diana, Your reponse is one I battle with all the time, I am NOT saying EO's don't work, I am saying eos are toxic to cats. Sure according to you they worked, but at what cost to the liver ? People can argue all day whith your last statement, I never said EOs do not work , that one is taking a heck of a risk to the cats whole syatem when using them. I still say NO EO " S on cats!!!! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 TO all, Here is another way of looking at this toxicity issue - theobromine, a naturally occurring compound found in chocolate is toxic to dogs. I hear " But my dog ate some and she is fine! " statements often, and again I say " Are you willing to play Russian Roulette with the safety of your dog? " We cannot change what pets and people cannot handle physically, nor should we assume that we can bend the rules -- especially when it comes to pets. As always, this is the way I see things...your views may differ -- hope it is not at the cost of your pet's health. Sevi P.S: Sue how are you doing? Miss you lady! , " cortaderia_1999 " <cortaderia_1999> wrote: > , Diana of Dewberry Hill <I'm > glad that I did use the oil because he is still alive. I guess my > question is if it's so bad, then why did it work so well? > > > > Diana > > > > Diana, > Your reponse is one I battle with all the time, I am NOT saying EO's > don't work, I am saying eos are toxic to cats. Sure according to you > they worked, but at what cost to the liver ? People can argue all > day whith your last statement, I never said EOs do not work , that > one is taking a heck of a risk to the cats whole syatem when using > them. I still say NO EO " S on cats!!!! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 In a message dated 7/15/2003 6:12:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, chimies writes: > Hi, > > I have a list of items that are poisinous and toxic to dogs. > Can I send this attachment to the group? I got it from my vet. > I keep it handy and make sure my furkids don't go near the > stuff or give it to them myself! > > Yes please. As a new puppy owner (in a LOOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGGG) time, I'd like to refresh me memory! Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Hi, I have a list of items that are poisinous and toxic to dogs. Can I send this attachment to the group? I got it from my vet. I keep it handy and make sure my furkids don't go near the stuff or give it to them myself! Thanks becky ps love the group! ---- Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:24:16 AM Re: EO's for Cats TO all, Here is another way of looking at this toxicity issue - theobromine, a naturally occurring compound found in chocolate is toxic to dogs. I hear " But my dog ate some and she is fine! " statements often, and again I say " Are you willing to play Russian Roulette with the safety of your dog? " We cannot change what pets and people cannot handle physically, nor should we assume that we can bend the rules -- especially when it comes to pets. As always, this is the way I see things...your views may differ -- hope it is not at the cost of your pet's health. Sevi P.S: Sue how are you doing? Miss you lady! , " cortaderia_1999 " <cortaderia_1999> wrote: > , Diana of Dewberry Hill <I'm > glad that I did use the oil because he is still alive. I guess my > question is if it's so bad, then why did it work so well? > > > > Diana > > > > Diana, > Your reponse is one I battle with all the time, I am NOT saying EO's > don't work, I am saying eos are toxic to cats. Sure according to you > they worked, but at what cost to the liver ? People can argue all > day whith your last statement, I never said EOs do not work , that > one is taking a heck of a risk to the cats whole syatem when using > them. I still say NO EO " S on cats!!!! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 If EO's are bad for cats, what natural, quick medicine is good? Thanks, Diana of Dewberry Hill I still say NO EO " S on cats!!!! Sue SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 At 08:11 PM 7/15/2003 -0700, you wrote: >If EO's are bad for cats, what natural, quick medicine is good? >Thanks, Diana of Dewberry Hill > >I still say NO EO " S on cats!!!! Sue I recommend you get Juliette deBaracli Levy's herbal book on cats. It's available on Ebay. She covers diet and herbs as healing agents. Note: if your cats are semi-feral like mine, getting herbal 'pills' in them is as hard as getting allopathic medicine pills in them. Darn cats are soooo hard to treat -- I'm glad mine are 98% injury and illness-free due to being indoors, otherwise I don't know HOW I'd treat them.http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady © Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I find that my cats self medicate with fresh herbals. I can always tell when one is not feeling quite right since they will head to the shade houses and the herbs. I have three feral and 2 very domestic. I also have a half coyote that will self medicate when she is not feeling good. Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Whilst we're on the subject . . . I was just checking Pitcairn's book " Natural Healing for Dogs & Cats " (the '82 edition) for suggestions for a friend who just got a kitten that has ringworm . . . one of the things he suggests as a topical treatment is " oil of lavender. " Do you think he's talking about lavender EO? For the other herbal treatments, he gives instructions for decocting or infusing, but this simply says " oil of lavender " . . . (Btw, if any of you have any suggestions for my friend, I'd be most happy to hear them - she does know to isolate him and disinfect often . . . ) rox ______________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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