Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Hey Michele, In the previous post .. you asked me: > BTW…have you ever heard of a tea by the name of Flamorie'? I don't > know the English word for it neither dose my hubby. It is a long > light to medium green leaf (almost like a elongated bay but not > thick) very thin leaf with little clusters of blossoms (almost like > chamomile). The tea is a deep reddish brown when steeped. Not by that name I don't. But talked a good bit with John Kercher (RIP) about what I think it is a few years back. John was running an outfit in Greece and buying a good bit of Turkish Oregano and other oils from me .. they were experimenting on some products. He wanted an oil from this plant .. John once wrote .. back in August 2000. > Today, it is widely used in Greece as a specific traditional tea > endowed with a number of beneficial properties. In addition to its > pleasant taste, it has a distinguished aroma and yellow or brown > color-yellow color. > > People drink it a lot and is known in traditional medicine as > anti-inflammatory, anti-microbal and cytostatic agent. It is applied > for curing bronchitis, bronc asthma, stenocardy, angina etc. > > The Greek Mountain Tea, (Sideritis L.) belongs to the genus Sideritis > (Lamiaceae). Its scientific name is a derative of the Greek word > sideros that means Iron. Sideritis is known in Greece from ancient > times, when Dioskorides (AD first century) described it. > > The important role as traditional Greek tea has imposed the need of > its cultivation to meet the market increased requirements, as the > production from wild selfsown plantations was insufficient to cover > the demand of it. > Nowedays, Sideritis is cultivated in low fertility hilly and > mountainous area over 1000 m altitude. > Because of its importance for Greek people and interspecific hybrid by > using indigenous species of Greek mountain tea was produced. From > the hybrids 15 superior were selected on the basis of their yield and > quality of the essential oils. The interspecific hybrids had higher > fresh and dry weight, as well as essential oils than control. Also, > they exceeded their parents in yield and fresh and dry weight as well > as the inferior parent in essential oil content. > > Sideritis is sold in small bunches of about 200 grams each from which > the flowery tops are taken and a tea (brew) made. On several Greek > food list on Internet they offer, also in the USA, tins with the > ground flower, mainly to the American Greek community. According to > herbalist here it is sold for the taste in that manner, if you need > the therapeutic working, you better buy a small bunch. Then later I wrote back .. on his list: I have maybe a kilos of Sideritis fronds/heads in the kitchen of my office - the ladies here drink it from time to time. It only takes one head to make a relatively strong cup of tea - and it's very aromatic. And someone later replied: > Thanks for this information! I too have been having quite a bout with > allergies and asthma lately. I have been very congested, wheezing, > and very tired feeling from not being able to breath well. I will have > to get some of the honey and Sidirita! > It is good to hear from someone who has tried it for these problems! > Maybe there is some hope for us wheezers yet! And I continued: Sideritis is a genus of maybe 100 species of annuals. Needs long, hot DRY, summers. It's commonly found in Greece and Turkey. It's used as a herbal tea here in both countries. It's called Mountain Tea in Greece and Mountain Tea here (Dag cayi.) We use instantly infuse the flowering spikes or heads - as we do with sage. It's dipped for half a minute in hot water and then removed - the longer it stays in the water, the more bitter it will become. For this reason, it's sold in small bags whole - never is it crushed and in bulk as we find Linden and other aromatic plants here. As John and I have discussed before, one of THE experts on Sideritis is my good friend and a man who has the respect of scientists world-wide, Professor Dr. K. Husnu Can Baser ... a grand researcher and gentleman he is and one who has his own namesake Oregano - Origanum husnucan-baserii. He has authored or co-authored a large number of papers on Sideritis- here's just a few: Composition of the Essential Oils of Sideritis germanicopolitana Bornm., N. Kyrymer, T. Özek, H. Tanryverdi, F. Koca, A. Kaya, K.H.C. Baser, J.Essent. Oil Res., 4, 533-534 (1992). Characterization of the Essential Oil of Sideritis dichotoma, N. Kirimer, K.H.C. Baser, G. Tumen, E. Sezik, J. Ess ent. Oil Res., 4(6) 641-642 (1992). The Essential Oil of Sideritis athoa Papanikolaou et Kokkini, T. Ozek, K.H.C. Baser, G.Tumen, J. Essent. Oil Res., 5 (6) 669-670 (1993). The Essential Oil of Sideritis hispida P.H. Davis , An Endemic Species from Turkey, N. Kirimer, T. Ozek, K.H.C. Baser, G. Tumen, J. Essent. Oil Res.. 6 (4) 435-436 (1994). The Essential Oil of Sideritis amasiaca Bornm., G. Tumen, K.H.C. Baser, N. Kirimer, N. Ermin, J.Essent. Oil Res. , 7, 699-700 (1995). Effects of Extracts from Certain Sideritis species on Swimming Performance in Mice, Y. Ozturk, S. Aydin, N. Ozturk, K.H.C. Baser, Phytother. Res., 10, 70-73 (1996). Ivestigation of Origanum onites, Sideritis congesta and Satureja cuneifolia Essential Oils for Analgesic Activity, S. Aydin, Y. Ozturk, R. Beis, K.H.C. Baser, Phytother. Res., 10, 342-344 (1996). A New Kaurane Diterpene from Sideritis huber-morathii, K.H.C. Baser, M.L. Bondi, M. Bruno, N. Kirimer, F. Piozzi, G.T umen, N. Vassallo, Phytochemistry, 43 (6), 1293-1295 (1996). The Essential Oil of Sideritis scardica Griseb. subsp. scardica, K.H.C. Baser, N.Kirimer, G.Tumen, J.Essent. Oil Res., 9, 205-207 (1997) Essential Oil Composition of three Labiatae endemic to Turkey (Micromeria fruticosa (L.) Druce subsp. giresunica P.H. Davis., Sideritis lycia Boiss. et Heldr. and Sideritis arguta Boiss. et Heldr.) K.H.C. Baser, N. Kirimer, T. Ozek, G. Tumen, F. Karaer, J.Essent. Oil Res. ------------------ (BUTCH'S NOTE: The Micromeria fruticosa mentioned above is the THIRD species of Pennyroyal. It's only found in Turkey ... ask 99.9% of the experts what it is and they'll give you a humma-humma story, but we sell one helluva lot of it as it's much lower in pulegone than the others. And while we're on trivia, did y'all know that that area twixt the Tennessee and Cumberland Rivers in Kentucky - now called the Land Between the Lakes, was once called Mint Meadows because it was the main source of acquisition of native American Pennyroyal for the Eastern Indians. And that Pennyroyal was a sought-after item of trade ... ------------------ Composition of the Essential Oil of Sideritis condensata Boiss. et Heldr., N. Kirimer, M. Kurkcuoglu, T. Ozek, K.H.C. Baser, Flav.Fragr. J Composition of Essential Oils from Two New Sideritis Species, N.Kirimer, H.Duman, N.Tabanca, K.H.C.Baser, Flavour Fragr. J. Essential Oils of Annual Sideritis Species Growing in Turkey, N. Kirimer, N. Tabanca, T. Ozek, G. Tumen, K.H.C. Baser, Pharmaceutical Biology And I'm gonna stop here - though there are many, many more I think I'm starting to bore you .. :-( In " The Essential Oils of Sideritis Species: A Review, " by N. Kirimer, " M. Kurkcuoglu, K.H.C. Baser and G. Tumen, printed in the Flavours, Fragrances and Essential Oils, Proceedings of the 13th International Congress of Flavours, Fragrances and Essential Oils, held in Istanbul, Turkey, 15-19 October 1995, AREP Publ., Istanbul, Ed. K.H.C.Baser, Vol. 1, 70 (1995), Professor Baser wrote (in part): " Most of the Sideritis species growing in Turkey are used as herbal tea. The genus is represented by 43 species and 50 taxa in Turkey. The essential oils of these taxa have been screened by our group using GC and GC/MS techniques. " He then presented some GCs in the briefing. AND " The dried flowering spikes of Sideritis species are also used as herbal tea, as mentioned before, under the name adacayi (Island Tea) or dagcayi (Mountain Tea), especially in the western and southeastern coastal regions of Turkey. The tea is instantly prepared by dipping one spike in a cup of hot water for 1/2 minute or so. Some find the taste of its tea more palatable than that of sage. Our group has investigated the essential oil composition of thirty-nine out of forty-three Sideritis species of Turkey. During our investigations, two Sideritis species new for science (S. akmanii and S. gulendamii) named after a Turkish plant taxonomist - Professor Dr. Yildirim Akman and an essential oil researcher Associate Professor Dr. (Ms.) Gulendam Tumen, respectively, have been discovered. Furthermore, Sideritis scardica has been recorded by our group as a new species for Turkey. Sideritis species are not rich in essential oil. However, due to their pleasant smell and aroma, several Sideritis species are used as herbal teas. The useful species are locally known by their specific Turkish names (Table 3) (MY NOTE: It lists them all - such as adacayi, cayota (tea herb), balbasi (honeyhead), yaylacayi (pasture tea), etc. In Table 4 (MY NOTE - SAME HERE) Sideritis species are classified according to the main components in their essential oils as pinene-rich, myrcene-rich or sesquiterpene-rich. " UNQUOTE A bit of trivia: Professor Kurkcuoglu (a lady) is Professor Baser's assistant ... Professor K. Husnu Can Baser is Dean of Pharmacy Faculty, Anadolu University and Director, Medicinal and Aromatic Plant and Drug Research Center, Eskisehir, Turkey. Professor Tumen works in Izmir at the Ege University. ------------------- John and I have discussed distillation of Sideritis and we know it's not one to yield a lot of oil - it will be an expensive oil. I've been trying to get some cooked for some time but it's not a high demand oil so my good cooks weren't making it. Today, I spoke with a distiller of superior talent and questionable ethics about this oil. He assured me he had access to two tons of the plants and he expected he could get 6-7 kilos of oil per ton. I told him to cook it and send the entire yield to me. When it arrives, I will personally dip the sample that I'll send to Professor Baser for testing. This is my routine even when dealing with distillers who have unquestionable ethics because even honest folks make mistakes ... well, except for me ... ;-) and their workers could send a barrel from a different batch from that I had tested - so I get the whole danged barrel. I don't pay until it passes and they accept this - don't like it but they accept it. So ... who knows what is coming down the road? We'll see - it'll all depend on the test and if Professor Baser says it's good, you can bet your bippy it's good ..... ;-) NOTE: The above was old info .. we never got to distilling the oil. Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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