Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 I think this is the real " medicine. " Amazing how much good touch can be in overcoming ANYTHING. I would even venture the guess that touch is the lion's share of the therapeutic value of massage. The actually working of the tissues is good but how much better is it if it is done with loving hands?!?!?!? Karen J- who will now get down of her soap box. > But then .. massage without EO has therapeutic benefit too .. as does > the simple act of touching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi Diana, Been meaning to comment on this one .. and finally got the time. > If you take the oregano oil-olive oil mixture as sold in the store The Oregano-Olive Oil mixtures sold in the store are NOT a good source. First, this all began with Dr. Cass Igram of North American Herb & Spice company. I was his supplier for a good while .. sold him a few tons of this and that Orgianum .. not all Origanum vulgare as he claims in his ads and radio shows. Problem with his product and those many clones that followed on are that prices are like $20 some odd bucks for 2/3 oz of roughly 5% Origanum in Olive Oil. Folks know they can buy an ounce of pure Origanum Retail for far less than this so that makes the store brand a MINIMUM of 30 X more expensive. And wholesale, they can buy it maybe $4 an ounce which means its almost 100 X cheaper. Second problem is the store stuff almost always has a rubber eye dropper in the top. Within MINUTES of coming into contact with even 5% dilution of Origanum the molecules of the rubber begin leeching into the oil .. this is not a debatable subject. > and put the drops under your tongue and on your glands in your throat > it will burn a bit for a minute but kill the pain. > Diana of Dewberry Hill This too was originated by Cass Igram .. this under the tongue crap and rubbing on the glands. First, the active ingredient of the Origanums is Carvocral and Carvacrol is NOT one of the FEW chemicals that absorb into the skin .. if someone wants to drag out the old bovine excrement tales about skin absorption I'll be glad to address them ... but I'll skip'em for the time being and just say be glad that all chemicals do not absorb or we'd be spending a lot of time in the emergency room. Of the three basic methods of introducing any chemical into the body the quickest .. but not always the safest and never the safest with EO .. is injection. So we'll leave that one lay as a non-starter. The most effective SAFE means of gaining the therapeutic benefits of ANY essential oil is through inhalation .. plus its the quickest. The next most effective is ingestion .. but all essential oils cannot be ingested safely .. and some, like Pennyroyal, will kill us PDQ!! Finally, the LEAST EFFECTIVE means of gaining therapeutic benefit from an EO is dermal application .. why? Because all the chemicals in that so-called natural synergy will NOT absorb into the skin. If the tales we have been taught are true .. if there is a need to use only pure and unadulterated EO .. that means we need the entire spectrum of chemical components in that EO .. to include the trace chemicals .. and including those chemicals that will NOT absorb. So we can't have it both ways. In fact, what really happens when one gets a massage with an EO is the violatile vapors of the EO are inhaled into the olfactory system by the recipient of the massage .. and moreso by the giver as the volatile molecules will rise upward. But then .. massage without EO has therapeutic benefit too .. as does the simple act of touching. > I usually chase with water after a minute. Not a bad idea. What its doing is washing a relatively irritating oil on down into the gullet .. which can better handle it without the sting. If one wants to learn a new dance, get some Origanum on the lips. Those who have been around know that I know Origanums .. and I use them routinely .. and have written personal testimonals on how I use them. But we should not believe the hawg crap we read from those who push the ingestion of EO .. especially when they don't even use the word EO in their discussion .. they prefer Oil of This and Oil of That .. and in the case of Hydrosols they say Juice of This and That. And finally, if one can stick around long enough to get a medical doctor diploma, they can recommend we use horse manure and still be within the bounds of the law. Their only risk is if someone has the whatfor to take them to court if the horse manure can be shown to cause harm .. and even then, the rest of the medico team .. the AMA and FDA and major pharmaceutical companies may chip in to buy them an attorney that could get O.J. off even a second time. There is honor among thieves. Finally .. those of you who are familar with Martin's EO Monographs know that he doesn't have one on the Origanums. That's not surprising cause there are few Western folks who have a lot of knowledge of them. I can say without bragging that I am one of those few .. and based on a recent request from Martin .. seen below .. I am about to prepare one. > Bear in mind that my course does not contain information on Oregano > oil because I don't have enough accurate data on it. If that fellow > in Turkey would learn how to keep a computer in good running order, he > could throw something together which I could then check and include as > another monograph. It would have to be on the condition that only oil > from yourself could be used though. Reason is - as you know - Oregano > is like Helichysum and if bought from suppliers you don't know you > don't have a clue what the oil is or what it will do. Martin Now lemme tell you about doctors and professors and such who claim to have knowledge based on their credentials. Just today, I had a full professor visit me with a GC/MS of a so-called Oregano oil. I arranged a sale of 1,000 kilos a month for a year to a buyer in Austria .. and a Province Chief of Police pushed me to buy the product from a friend of his who produces EO .. on the Black Sea .. not a prolific area for the Origanums. Anyway .. this Full Professor in the Agricultural Faculty of an unnamed university brought me a GC/MS with a Carvacrol level of 42% and a Thymol level of over 8%. When I told him that it was NOT Origanum he pulled out a sheet of standards he had prepared .. I asked him what he thought that Standard Sheet was for .. that is, which oil? He hemmed and hawed and said Oregano. Which Oregano says me? We have 26 here in Turkey and only 5 are commercially viable. And NONE of them have an 8% level of Thymol and the Great Spirit ain't yet allowed ANY wild Oregano plant to produce only 42% Carvacrol. I'm thinking that what he has is Thymbra spicata .. I'm doing a bit of testing myself now. What's the point of the above? If you don't know what you're testing you cannot test it .. and credentials don't make an expert in all areas. Folks need to know their limitations and that's particularly true of the art and science of analyzation. This fellow was into an area where he had no expertise and dealing with someone who had some knowledge .. in order to not make him feel even more embarrassed I gave him a few ways out .. so he could save face .. but I'm sure it ruined his week. The producer lost a lucrative, long-term contract .. and they pissed me off enough that I'm gonna quit working righ after this post and go have a few ice-cold Efes Beers. ;-p Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Bulk/Wholesale/Retail GC Tested EO, Rose Otto, Tested Hydrosols and other goodies shipped to you from our store in Friendsville, Maryland PS: And my next post is gonna be on Rose Otto to Kathleen's group at WoobeyNooz .. but Kathleen, I'll wait till the morn cause tonight I'm gonna go argue with Islamic extremists and other forms of low-life about political issues of which they have no knowledge. ;-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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