Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 In a message dated 2/26/03 9:35:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, carolyn writes: > The stuff > doesn't grind! Or maybe I just have a wimpy grinder. Anyway, I'm > desperately seeking a good fixative for soaps. I've hung out on soap lists > for quite some time and have never seen any tips other than mixing the EOs > with litsea cubeba. To me, that just overwhelms all the other fragrances. > Does anyone have a magic trick for giving EOs staying power--even a little > bit!--in soap? More important, are you willing to share it? > > Can you be more specific - only e/o's I know of that might need fixing are cirtuses. You can buy a folded oil that is stronger. Some add citrus powders to help with scents. There are a myriad of scent fixatives for essential oils. You might need to brush up on your perfumery. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 In a message dated 2/26/03 9:53:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, carolyn writes: > Brush up on it? I guess I'd better explore it. I've dabbled in soaps, not > perfumery. I'm new to EOs and herbs. My apologies, I didn't realize the > group is for experts. > > It wasn't my intention to insult. It's just that perfumery teaches you how to fix scents. Truly wasn't my intention. If you do some google searches on " fixatives + perfumery " , you might find some ways to do this. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Cellulose is supposed to be an EO fixative in potpourri, so I thought I was being clever when I tried to grind some to mix with EOs for soap. The stuff doesn't grind! Or maybe I just have a wimpy grinder. Anyway, I'm desperately seeking a good fixative for soaps. I've hung out on soap lists for quite some time and have never seen any tips other than mixing the EOs with litsea cubeba. To me, that just overwhelms all the other fragrances. Does anyone have a magic trick for giving EOs staying power--even a little bit!--in soap? More important, are you willing to share it? Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Carolyn, Cellulose is ground corn cob, not nice in soap. Citruses do fade quickly. Try adding Listea Cubea EO to your recipe and or a base note like patchouli or vertiver. HTH, Jan S www.sweetprairiesoap.com jans e-mail for paypal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 I agree with Jan, a little vetiver or patchouli works really well for me. Blends of complex citruses, too, are helpful, rather than just using sweet orange, use sweet orange, blood orange, bitter orange, pink grapfruit and lemon, for instance. And Carolyn, this group is for everyone, not just experts, so continue to ask questions and we will all help where we can. We all have different levels of knowledge and learn different things here all the time. Debbie deb Cure your winter blues with some springy soaps! http://www.debrasrhapsody.com/rhapsody/soaps.shtml - " Jan Schmidt " <jans Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:56 AM Re: EO fixative in soap > Carolyn, > Cellulose is ground corn cob, not nice in soap. Citruses do fade quickly. Try adding Listea Cubea EO to your recipe and or a base note like patchouli or vertiver. > HTH, > Jan S > www.sweetprairiesoap.com > jans > e-mail for paypal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Brush up on it? I guess I'd better explore it. I've dabbled in soaps, not perfumery. I'm new to EOs and herbs. My apologies, I didn't realize the group is for experts. Carolyn > Can you be more specific - only e/o's I know of that might need > fixing are > cirtuses. You can buy a folded oil that is stronger. Some add citrus > powders to help with scents. There are a myriad of scent fixatives for > essential oils. You might need to brush up on your perfumery. > > Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 I do not use fixatives in my soap. I find that the method of storage is where I will lose my scent. If I use cardboard or anything absorbent the scent is lost fairly quickly. Plastic works the best. If you mix different soaps and scents in the same container they will change as well. Even though the scent may be minimal the EO is still doing it's job. I don't believe this list is for experts. Most of us come here for advice on things we are unsure of or new at. Keep on using the list. Terri Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Oh Lord! I hope I did not offend anyone. I was trying to help. I have been a newbie too. I have been soaping for 7 years and still learn new things every day. jan S www.sweetprairiesoap.com jans e-mail for paypal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 In a message dated 02/26/2003 8:35:21 AM Central Standard Time, carolyn writes: > ...........Does anyone have a magic trick for giving EOs staying power--even > a little > bit!--in soap? More important, are you willing to share it? > > Good morning Carolyn, From all the info i've gleaned about this subject I > use castor oil which has been touted to be of some help, and I know it > helps the lather. I also use about a teaspoon of some kind of clay per > pound of oils, my fave being bentonite. I have also used ground limon and > lime peel, just be sure to grind it really fine and sift it. otherwise it's > really scratchy. I also use oatmeal ground really fine and sifted. All > these are said to anchor the scent and the oatmeal , especially, is a nice > additive for any soap so it's the one I use the most. I'm sure there are > others but these are just the ones I am more familiar with. HTH's, Deonia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 How much castor oil and what is the purpose of its use? Just a fixative or some other healing property? I use castor oil for bruises, calcium deposits and that kind of thing but I have never thought about adding it to soap. Terri Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 At trace, add aprox 2-3 oz. of Castor Oil. Mix this with your FO or EO. I find that it helps slow down possible seizes..or for FO's that may move a little too fast for me. This amount is more about getting the fragrances in than the actual properties of the castor oil. HTH... Linda - " Terri Martin " <terri_m_85224 Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:28 PM Re: EO fixative in soap > > How much castor oil and what is the purpose of its use? Just a fixative or some other healing property? I use castor oil for bruises, calcium deposits and that kind of thing but I have never thought about adding it to soap. > > > > > > Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Hi Terri, Well, I like to use 6% in my soaps. It contributes to a wonderful fluffy lather and also helps to leave a slight film on the skin. That can be considered moisturizing and helps to hold the moisture in. Margaret Natural Indulgences LLC >How much castor oil and what is the purpose of its use? Just a fixative or >some other healing property? I use castor oil for bruises, calcium >deposits and that kind of thing but I have never thought about adding it to >soap. > > > > > >Terri _______________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Jackie wrote - You can buy a folded oil that is stronger. What is a folded oil? I have seen it in reference to orange essential oil, but not sure what it means. Thanks! ~Tricia JCrobin838 [JCrobin838] Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:38 AM Re: EO fixative in soap In a message dated 2/26/03 9:35:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, carolyn writes: > The stuff > doesn't grind! Or maybe I just have a wimpy grinder. Anyway, I'm > desperately seeking a good fixative for soaps. I've hung out on soap lists > for quite some time and have never seen any tips other than mixing the EOs > with litsea cubeba. To me, that just overwhelms all the other fragrances. > Does anyone have a magic trick for giving EOs staying power--even a little > bit!--in soap? More important, are you willing to share it? > > Can you be more specific - only e/o's I know of that might need fixing are cirtuses. . Some add citrus powders to help with scents. There are a myriad of scent fixatives for essential oils. You might need to brush up on your perfumery. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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