Question about unusual UN-symptoms?

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I would like to ask the group about some unusual UN-symptoms I've been

having.

 

I'd like to start with a general question. If the whole body is in

general improvemnet (ridding oneself of unwanted previous lifelong

symptoms) and muscle strength, doesn't the heart muscle HAVE to be

gaining in strength too and corolating with the rest of the body?

 

I will explain my story in a nutshell.

 

I was born with a VSD (ventricular septal defect). I have had three

surgeries as a child to correct this. On Valentine's Day 2003, I

collapsed of a mild heart attack, stroke and liver failure due to a

liver detox drink a naturopath gave me. The drink sent my liver into

failure and created the blood clots. At the end of 2003, I was re-

hospitalized with severe congestive heart failure. The doctors told

me my ejection fraction was at 18% (25% heart function). At that

point I was bedridden and VERY weak.

 

I am a concert violinist and have had to re-learn how to play the

violin since my stroke. I am currently back to work and back to life

full force. Actually, I have felt the best I've felt in my whole

life! I practice qigong, eat the Chinese Diet Therapy and use herbs

on a daily basis.

 

I was shocked and the doctors were equally if not more shocked when

I had my new echocardiogram done at the end of March 2005. They claim

that my test results are EXACTLY the same as in 2003, I'm at 25% heart

function!?! They told me someone with these " numbers " should not be

able to walk or even stand for that matter. They are VERY determined

to implant a defibrillator into me because of my chronic atrial

fibrillation.

 

This is my basic story and I wanted to put it out on the group to get

some feedback.

 

Any scomments and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks,

Elizabeth

[Guest guest]

Hi Elizabeth,

I would have the tests done again. Perhaps they made a mistake. If you feel

great, how can your heart function be 25%? I'm sure you are aware of the

symptoms of CHF: fatigue, shortness of breath, lower limb edema, heart

palpitations. Do you have any of those? How about insomnia, excessive

dreaming, night sweats on your chest, or being easily frightened? Is your

tongue tip red, curled under or curled over?

Jasmine Heinz, L.Ac <http://L.Ac>.

 

On 6/16/05, Elizabeth <tazzyviolin wrote:

>

> Hello,

> I would like to ask the group about some unusual UN-symptoms I've been

> having.

>

> I'd like to start with a general question. If the whole body is in

> general improvemnet (ridding oneself of unwanted previous lifelong

> symptoms) and muscle strength, doesn't the heart muscle HAVE to be

> gaining in strength too and corolating with the rest of the body?

>

> I will explain my story in a nutshell.

>

> I was born with a VSD (ventricular septal defect). I have had three

> surgeries as a child to correct this. On Valentine's Day 2003, I

> collapsed of a mild heart attack, stroke and liver failure due to a

> liver detox drink a naturopath gave me. The drink sent my liver into

> failure and created the blood clots. At the end of 2003, I was re-

> hospitalized with severe congestive heart failure. The doctors told

> me my ejection fraction was at 18% (25% heart function). At that

> point I was bedridden and VERY weak.

>

> I am a concert violinist and have had to re-learn how to play the

> violin since my stroke. I am currently back to work and back to life

> full force. Actually, I have felt the best I've felt in my whole

> life! I practice qigong, eat the Chinese Diet Therapy and use herbs

> on a daily basis.

>

> I was shocked and the doctors were equally if not more shocked when

> I had my new echocardiogram done at the end of March 2005. They claim

> that my test results are EXACTLY the same as in 2003, I'm at 25% heart

> function!?! They told me someone with these " numbers " should not be

> able to walk or even stand for that matter. They are VERY determined

> to implant a defibrillator into me because of my chronic atrial

> fibrillation.

>

> This is my basic story and I wanted to put it out on the group to get

> some feedback.

>

> Any scomments and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

> Elizabeth

 

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[Guest guest]

Elizabeth,

 

I was sorry to read of all your challenges. You are clearly someone of

indomitable spirit and to be hugely congratulated. I am sure the vibration of

your music is hugely healing for you too. Would you know what herbs etc were in

the original liver detox drink the naturopath gave you? It is scary to think a

liver detox formula could be so life threatening. May I also ask your age?

 

Best wishes,

 

Nadia

 

Nadia Brydon MRCHM. Dip Phyt. MNIMH. Dip Ac.

 

-

Elizabeth

Chinese Medicine

Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:12 PM

Question about unusual UN-symptoms?

 

 

Hello,

I would like to ask the group about some unusual UN-symptoms I've been

having.

 

I'd like to start with a general question. If the whole body is in

general improvemnet (ridding oneself of unwanted previous lifelong

symptoms) and muscle strength, doesn't the heart muscle HAVE to be

gaining in strength too and corolating with the rest of the body?

 

I will explain my story in a nutshell.

 

I was born with a VSD (ventricular septal defect). I have had three

surgeries as a child to correct this. On Valentine's Day 2003, I

collapsed of a mild heart attack, stroke and liver failure due to a

liver detox drink a naturopath gave me. The drink sent my liver into

failure and created the blood clots. At the end of 2003, I was re-

hospitalized with severe congestive heart failure. The doctors told

me my ejection fraction was at 18% (25% heart function). At that

point I was bedridden and VERY weak.

 

I am a concert violinist and have had to re-learn how to play the

violin since my stroke. I am currently back to work and back to life

full force. Actually, I have felt the best I've felt in my whole

life! I practice qigong, eat the Chinese Diet Therapy and use herbs

on a daily basis.

 

I was shocked and the doctors were equally if not more shocked when

I had my new echocardiogram done at the end of March 2005. They claim

that my test results are EXACTLY the same as in 2003, I'm at 25% heart

function!?! They told me someone with these " numbers " should not be

able to walk or even stand for that matter. They are VERY determined

to implant a defibrillator into me because of my chronic atrial

fibrillation.

 

This is my basic story and I wanted to put it out on the group to get

some feedback.

 

Any scomments and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks,

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Good morning Jasmine,

Thank you for responding to my post. As I said in my original post,

the only symptom I am displaying is the chronic atrial

fibrillation. I am breathing very well, have lots of energy and am

sleeping well.

 

I'm not saying that I think my heart is functioning 100% because I

wasn't born with a 100% functioning heart. All I know, is that I am

now able to do things physically I have never been able to do in my

entire life.

 

Also, I will give you a short list of things that have gone " right " :

 

I need to wear glasses but lately I could swear I am seeing sharper

edges WITHOUT the glasses. I have alwys been hard of hearing, but

this is drastically improving too. I have always had a weight

problem (100+) overweight. I am now thin and find it no problem to

remain this way. I have had 20+ years of moderate to severe acne.

This has vanished! My hair is becoming darker ( I have dark brown

hair) and since the liver failure, it's grown in fuller than ever.

I always got sick (colds pnemonia and very serious sinus infections)

if I pushed myself too hard. Suprisingly, these have all vanished

too! I'm especially impressed with this one since I am constantly

around sick people (musicians in the orchestra and violin students).

My balance is getting better too.

 

If I could just rid myself of this afib I would really think I was

near perfect!

 

Thanks again for replying!

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Jasmine Heinz.

L.Ac. " <jasminelac@g...> wrote:

> Hi Elizabeth,

> I would have the tests done again. Perhaps they made a mistake.

If you feel

> great, how can your heart function be 25%? I'm sure you are aware

of the

> symptoms of CHF: fatigue, shortness of breath, lower limb edema,

heart

> palpitations. Do you have any of those? How about insomnia,

excessive

> dreaming, night sweats on your chest, or being easily frightened?

Is your

> tongue tip red, curled under or curled over?

> Jasmine Heinz, L.Ac <http://L.Ac>.

>

> On 6/16/05, Elizabeth <tazzyviolin> wrote:

> >

> > Hello,

> > I would like to ask the group about some unusual UN-symptoms

I've been

> > having.

> >

> > I'd like to start with a general question. If the whole body is

in

> > general improvemnet (ridding oneself of unwanted previous

lifelong

> > symptoms) and muscle strength, doesn't the heart muscle HAVE to

be

> > gaining in strength too and corolating with the rest of the body?

> >

> > I will explain my story in a nutshell.

> >

> > I was born with a VSD (ventricular septal defect). I have had

three

> > surgeries as a child to correct this. On Valentine's Day 2003, I

> > collapsed of a mild heart attack, stroke and liver failure due

to a

> > liver detox drink a naturopath gave me. The drink sent my liver

into

> > failure and created the blood clots. At the end of 2003, I was

re-

> > hospitalized with severe congestive heart failure. The doctors

told

> > me my ejection fraction was at 18% (25% heart function). At that

> > point I was bedridden and VERY weak.

> >

> > I am a concert violinist and have had to re-learn how to play

the

> > violin since my stroke. I am currently back to work and back to

life

> > full force. Actually, I have felt the best I've felt in my whole

> > life! I practice qigong, eat the Chinese Diet Therapy and use

herbs

> > on a daily basis.

> >

> > I was shocked and the doctors were equally if not more shocked

when

> > I had my new echocardiogram done at the end of March 2005. They

claim

> > that my test results are EXACTLY the same as in 2003, I'm at 25%

heart

> > function!?! They told me someone with these " numbers " should not

be

> > able to walk or even stand for that matter. They are VERY

determined

> > to implant a defibrillator into me because of my chronic atrial

> > fibrillation.

> >

> > This is my basic story and I wanted to put it out on the group

to get

> > some feedback.

> >

> > Any scomments and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Elizabeth

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hello Nadia,

The " detox drink " had the following ingredients:

 

olive oil, garlic, ginger, lemon juice, water, apple juice

 

The doctors said my bile ducts were blocked and had accute

hepatitas. I had to take this drink for 5 days. Each day I

increased the ingredients. By the last day, I was using 1/2 cup

olive oil and 10 cloves of garlic! I remember the last day I could

barely get the drink down because I felt it burn all the way down to

my colon!! Within a week, I was in the ER with my trio tragedy.

The worst of it all is that I called my naturopath and complained I

was not feeling well and he kept saying I was " detoxing " . I guess

the lesson I've learned from this is to LISTEN TO MY BODY!

Currently my cardiologist is furious with my because I weaned myself

off of Coumadin aka " rat poison " . I am using food and herb

substances to " thin " my blood instead. One of my main " pills " I

take is Nattokinase. BTW, since ingesting this liver detox drink I

have done intense research on the internet and found some people

have died from this thing. Also, I have to musician friends

(husband and wife) who took the same drink last fall. The wife had

no problem but the husband had to quit after the first day because

he became very ill.

 

Also, I was 36 when I had the stroke and I am now 39.

 

Thank you for responding back to my post!

 

Take care,

Elizabeth

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Nadia Brydon "

<nadia@c...> wrote:

> Elizabeth,

>

> I was sorry to read of all your challenges. You are clearly

someone of indomitable spirit and to be hugely congratulated. I am

sure the vibration of your music is hugely healing for you too.

Would you know what herbs etc were in the original liver detox drink

the naturopath gave you? It is scary to think a liver detox formula

could be so life threatening. May I also ask your age?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Nadia

>

> Nadia Brydon MRCHM. Dip Phyt. MNIMH. Dip Ac.

>

> -

> Elizabeth

> Chinese Medicine

> Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:12 PM

> Question about unusual UN-symptoms?

>

>

> Hello,

> I would like to ask the group about some unusual UN-symptoms

I've been

> having.

>

> I'd like to start with a general question. If the whole body is

in

> general improvemnet (ridding oneself of unwanted previous

lifelong

> symptoms) and muscle strength, doesn't the heart muscle HAVE to

be

> gaining in strength too and corolating with the rest of the body?

>

> I will explain my story in a nutshell.

>

> I was born with a VSD (ventricular septal defect). I have had

three

> surgeries as a child to correct this. On Valentine's Day 2003,

I

> collapsed of a mild heart attack, stroke and liver failure due

to a

> liver detox drink a naturopath gave me. The drink sent my liver

into

> failure and created the blood clots. At the end of 2003, I was

re-

> hospitalized with severe congestive heart failure. The doctors

told

> me my ejection fraction was at 18% (25% heart function). At

that

> point I was bedridden and VERY weak.

>

> I am a concert violinist and have had to re-learn how to play

the

> violin since my stroke. I am currently back to work and back to

life

> full force. Actually, I have felt the best I've felt in my

whole

> life! I practice qigong, eat the Chinese Diet Therapy and use

herbs

> on a daily basis.

>

> I was shocked and the doctors were equally if not more shocked

when

> I had my new echocardiogram done at the end of March 2005. They

claim

> that my test results are EXACTLY the same as in 2003, I'm at 25%

heart

> function!?! They told me someone with these " numbers " should

not be

> able to walk or even stand for that matter. They are VERY

determined

> to implant a defibrillator into me because of my chronic atrial

> fibrillation.

>

> This is my basic story and I wanted to put it out on the group

to get

> some feedback.

>

> Any scomments and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

> Elizabeth

To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link

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[Guest guest]

Elizabeth,

I too have had reactions to large quantities of olive

oil/detox formulas. I did the apple flush (two days nothing but) and

then (as Paul Pitchford recommends in " Healing with Whole Foods " ) drank

half a cup of olive oil. At first this was great, the Liver was VERY

happy, but the Kidneys, they were severely taxed, leading to my

urinating

blood, in hindsight it would have been fine to have done it as Edgar

Cayce suggested which is two tablespoons, i know of many people who have

done it this way with very good results.

 

After reading of how well your health is, it is most certainly in your

interest to get another test! The results do not sound accurate. Are you

exercising? Cardio workouts? That would be a telltale sign to me (not

the only to be sure).

Also, are you receiving acupuncture? Supplementing ShaoYin would be very

good i would think.

 

Be well, Tymothy

 

 

Hello Nadia,

The " detox drink " had the following ingredients:

 

olive oil, garlic, ginger, lemon juice, water, apple juice

 

The doctors said my bile ducts were blocked and had accute

hepatitas. I had to take this drink for 5 days. Each day I

increased the ingredients. By the last day, I was using 1/2 cup

olive oil and 10 cloves of garlic! I remember the last day I could

barely get the drink down because I felt it burn all the way down to

my colon!! Within a week, I was in the ER with my trio tragedy.

The worst of it all is that I called my naturopath and complained I

was not feeling well and he kept saying I was " detoxing " . I guess

the lesson I've learned from this is to LISTEN TO MY BODY!

Currently my cardiologist is furious with my because I weaned myself

off of Coumadin aka " rat poison " . I am using food and herb

substances to " thin " my blood instead. One of my main " pills " I

take is Nattokinase. BTW, since ingesting this liver detox drink I

have done intense research on the internet and found some people

have died from this thing. Also, I have to musician friends

(husband and wife) who took the same drink last fall. The wife had

no problem but the husband had to quit after the first day because

he became very ill.

 

Also, I was 36 when I had the stroke and I am now 39.

 

Thank you for responding back to my post!

 

Take care,

Elizabeth

Everything can be resolved with willingness and love. Love is the

ultimate healer and liberator, because only love is vast enough to

embrace its opposite. G. Hendricks

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tymothy,

Yes I do exercise evry day now, or pretty much every day. I have a

mini trampoline and either do one 60 minute session or if I have

time, two 40 minute sessions. Also, I have weights at home and

belong to a gym where I use the weight machines.

 

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tymothy "

<jellyphish@f...> wrote:

> Elizabeth,

> I too have had reactions to large quantities of olive

> oil/detox formulas. I did the apple flush (two days nothing but)

and

> then (as Paul Pitchford recommends in " Healing with Whole Foods " )

drank

> half a cup of olive oil. At first this was great, the Liver was

VERY

> happy, but the Kidneys, they were severely taxed, leading to my

> urinating

> blood, in hindsight it would have been fine to have done it as

Edgar

> Cayce suggested which is two tablespoons, i know of many people

who have

> done it this way with very good results.

>

> After reading of how well your health is, it is most certainly in

your

> interest to get another test! The results do not sound accurate.

Are you

> exercising? Cardio workouts? That would be a telltale sign to me

(not

> the only to be sure).

> Also, are you receiving acupuncture? Supplementing ShaoYin would

be very

> good i would think.

>

> Be well, Tymothy

>

>

> Hello Nadia,

> The " detox drink " had the following ingredients:

>

> olive oil, garlic, ginger, lemon juice, water, apple juice

>

> The doctors said my bile ducts were blocked and had accute

> hepatitas. I had to take this drink for 5 days. Each day I

> increased the ingredients. By the last day, I was using 1/2 cup

> olive oil and 10 cloves of garlic! I remember the last day I could

> barely get the drink down because I felt it burn all the way down

to

> my colon!! Within a week, I was in the ER with my trio tragedy.

> The worst of it all is that I called my naturopath and complained I

> was not feeling well and he kept saying I was " detoxing " . I guess

> the lesson I've learned from this is to LISTEN TO MY BODY!

> Currently my cardiologist is furious with my because I weaned

myself

> off of Coumadin aka " rat poison " . I am using food and herb

> substances to " thin " my blood instead. One of my main " pills " I

> take is Nattokinase. BTW, since ingesting this liver detox drink I

> have done intense research on the internet and found some people

> have died from this thing. Also, I have to musician friends

> (husband and wife) who took the same drink last fall. The wife had

> no problem but the husband had to quit after the first day because

> he became very ill.

>

> Also, I was 36 when I had the stroke and I am now 39.

>

> Thank you for responding back to my post!

>

> Take care,

> Elizabeth

> Everything can be resolved with willingness and love. Love is the

> ultimate healer and liberator, because only love is vast enough to

> embrace its opposite. G. Hendricks

>

> --

> http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin

[Guest guest]

Hello Elizabeth,

 

Thanks for your reply. It's fascinating to learn it was the olive oil 'liver

flush' that sent you into liver & heart failure. I have never advocated on

myself or anyone else is the liver flush. It has never made sense to me

especially for someone who has difficulty metabolising fats. Garlic is simply

too heating and stimulating for some people. It seems my intuitiion was on the

right lines.

 

It sounds like whatever your are doing is working beautifully but there is still

something to uncover since you are still experiencing the AF. I agree a second

test/opinion is definately something I would follow up if it was myself. Other

than oxygenation through exercise, fresh air, balance between relaxation and

work, Acupuncture, qigong and Chinese diet and the herbs, all of which you are

doing, looking at energetic medicine, which I hesitate to mention on a TCM

group, could be useful. You are using the therapy of sound vibration through

your music but colour also has vibration and there are some very sophisticated

colour therapists around.

 

The heart Chakra in Ayurvedic medicine is the green colour. Eating sprouts and

green chlorophyll in the form of seaweeds and sprouts/wheatgrass can be very

healing on the heart and blood. In TCM the heart colours the blood red and

green is the same vibration as red except that red reflects light and green

absorbs light. (if you look at something green for a minute or two and then

close your eyes you should momentarily see the colour red!). This is maybe

where the connection for the colour for the heart in TCM is Red and in Ayurveda

it is green! Chlorophyll is rich in oxygen and bio available minerals and

photons/Qi. Green is also the colour of love and peace.

 

Fresh live chlorophyll is a great blood thinner whereas excess oils and fats

9especially heated) block and reduce oxygenation and creates haemaglobin

aggregation (as seen in live blood cell/dark field microscopy) and therefore

potential for clotting (and obviously blood stasis/stagnation). ie overload the

liver with oil which cannot be processed if there is a reduced ability for fats

absorption/assimilation in the first place, this will clog and shut down the

liver and then there will be over accumulation in the blood with oil/fat which

reduces the blood oxygen and this then will have a knock on effect in the entire

body especially the heart creating clotting hence stroke.....? Energetically

oil is Pitta (heating in Ayurvedic) medicine, garlic and ginger are heating, a

sour apple would also be heating......... No wonder you felt it " burn all the

way down to your colon " !

 

Please do post up the solution when you find it.

 

With best wishes,

 

Nadia

 

Nadia Brydon MRCHM. MNIMH. Dip Ac. Dip Phyt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

Elizabeth

Chinese Medicine

Friday, June 17, 2005 5:16 PM

Re: Question about unusual UN-symptoms?

 

 

Hello Nadia,

The " detox drink " had the following ingredients:

 

olive oil, garlic, ginger, lemon juice, water, apple juice

 

The doctors said my bile ducts were blocked and had accute

hepatitas. I had to take this drink for 5 days. Each day I

increased the ingredients. By the last day, I was using 1/2 cup

olive oil and 10 cloves of garlic! I remember the last day I could

barely get the drink down because I felt it burn all the way down to

my colon!! Within a week, I was in the ER with my trio tragedy.

The worst of it all is that I called my naturopath and complained I

was not feeling well and he kept saying I was " detoxing " . I guess

the lesson I've learned from this is to LISTEN TO MY BODY!

Currently my cardiologist is furious with my because I weaned myself

off of Coumadin aka " rat poison " . I am using food and herb

substances to " thin " my blood instead. One of my main " pills " I

take is Nattokinase. BTW, since ingesting this liver detox drink I

have done intense research on the internet and found some people

have died from this thing. Also, I have to musician friends

(husband and wife) who took the same drink last fall. The wife had

no problem but the husband had to quit after the first day because

he became very ill.

 

Also, I was 36 when I had the stroke and I am now 39.

 

Thank you for responding back to my post!

 

Take care,

Elizabeth

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Nadia Brydon "

<nadia@c...> wrote:

> Elizabeth,

>

> I was sorry to read of all your challenges. You are clearly

someone of indomitable spirit and to be hugely congratulated. I am

sure the vibration of your music is hugely healing for you too.

Would you know what herbs etc were in the original liver detox drink

the naturopath gave you? It is scary to think a liver detox formula

could be so life threatening. May I also ask your age?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Nadia

>

> Nadia Brydon MRCHM. Dip Phyt. MNIMH. Dip Ac.

>

> -

> Elizabeth

> Chinese Medicine

> Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:12 PM

> Question about unusual UN-symptoms?

>

>

> Hello,

> I would like to ask the group about some unusual UN-symptoms

I've been

> having.

>

> I'd like to start with a general question. If the whole body is

in

> general improvemnet (ridding oneself of unwanted previous

lifelong

> symptoms) and muscle strength, doesn't the heart muscle HAVE to

be

> gaining in strength too and corolating with the rest of the body?

>

> I will explain my story in a nutshell.

>

> I was born with a VSD (ventricular septal defect). I have had

three

> surgeries as a child to correct this. On Valentine's Day 2003,

I

> collapsed of a mild heart attack, stroke and liver failure due

to a

> liver detox drink a naturopath gave me. The drink sent my liver

into

> failure and created the blood clots. At the end of 2003, I was

re-

> hospitalized with severe congestive heart failure. The doctors

told

> me my ejection fraction was at 18% (25% heart function). At

that

> point I was bedridden and VERY weak.

>

> I am a concert violinist and have had to re-learn how to play

the

> violin since my stroke. I am currently back to work and back to

life

> full force. Actually, I have felt the best I've felt in my

whole

> life! I practice qigong, eat the Chinese Diet Therapy and use

herbs

> on a daily basis.

>

> I was shocked and the doctors were equally if not more shocked

when

> I had my new echocardiogram done at the end of March 2005. They

claim

> that my test results are EXACTLY the same as in 2003, I'm at 25%

heart

> function!?! They told me someone with these " numbers " should

not be

> able to walk or even stand for that matter. They are VERY

determined

> to implant a defibrillator into me because of my chronic atrial

> fibrillation.

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> This is my basic story and I wanted to put it out on the group

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> some feedback.

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> Thanks,

> Elizabeth

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[Guest guest]

Good morning Nadia,

 

 

I just had to write back to reply on a few of your comments! First,

this explains why I feel the " healthiest " and most relaxed when I am

standing and working in my garden! I own a small fruit tree grove

and

also planted over 200 types of herbs. As soon as I walk out there

each morning I get this sense of peacefullnes and connection, like

the

whole picture is coming together. Coincidentally, last night I was

thinking of moving my qigong practice out in the garden underneath

the

pine trees. I read that if one stands under pine trees while doing

qigong it enhances the qi.

 

Also, I wanted to let you know that I do eat greens EVERY day! In

fact, about a week ago, I read an article from Victoria Botenko about

the health benefits of green smoothies. She mixes fresh fruit and

many types of greens in a vitamix. I have been doing this every day

and I notice within minutes I feel a surge of energy. I guess it's

really transporting that oxygen!

 

I am going to see Dr. Martin Milner this week in Portland, Oregon.

He

is the doctor who did major research on Nattokinase with a Japanese

doctor. His specialty is cardiology. I will let you know how this

goes! In the menatime, I have to bring my Mom up to a Chinatown to

see the Chinese doctor. She needs a refill on her herbs.

I wish all of you in this group could experience this herb store.

It's like walking into a SUPER Walmart!! It's like going into herb

heaven!

 

Elizabeth

[Guest guest]

Hi Elizabeth,

 

Thanks for your feed back on my comments. In a sense the surface of the earth

with all the green plants is the heart chakra. Being more in touch with the

heart of the earth has totally changed my own life. If everyone ate more green

plants/herbs etc and spent more time connected to the earth, plants and trees,

maybe there would be " peace on earth and good will towards all (wo) men " . Since

changing my own diet to more greens/salads/sprouts (using TCM energetics of

course) my memory, energy, mobility, attitude, mood, intuition, sleep,

consciousness etc have all been enhanced incredibly . I guess because one is

taking in large amounts of high quality active food (Gu) Qi very rich in oxygen

with the fire of the sun in it. It hugely tonifies my spleen energy and my

circulation is now amazing. Victoria Boutenko is incredible and her book " Raw

Family " is probably one of the most inspiring books I have ever read. She and

her family live in Portland Oregan.

 

Please do post up your progress. And do contact me off line if you want further

info on people like Victoria Boutenko who are real pioneers or any further info

in that line as I now teach it.

 

All the very best

 

Nadia

 

Nadia Brydon MNIMH. MRCHM. Dip Phyt. Dip Ac.

nadia

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Elizabeth

Chinese Medicine

Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:20 PM

Re: Question about unusual UN-symptoms?

 

 

 

Good morning Nadia,

 

 

I just had to write back to reply on a few of your comments! First,

this explains why I feel the " healthiest " and most relaxed when I am

standing and working in my garden! I own a small fruit tree grove

and

also planted over 200 types of herbs. As soon as I walk out there

each morning I get this sense of peacefullnes and connection, like

the

whole picture is coming together. Coincidentally, last night I was

thinking of moving my qigong practice out in the garden underneath

the

pine trees. I read that if one stands under pine trees while doing

qigong it enhances the qi.

 

Also, I wanted to let you know that I do eat greens EVERY day! In

fact, about a week ago, I read an article from Victoria Botenko about

the health benefits of green smoothies. She mixes fresh fruit and

many types of greens in a vitamix. I have been doing this every day

and I notice within minutes I feel a surge of energy. I guess it's

really transporting that oxygen!

 

I am going to see Dr. Martin Milner this week in Portland, Oregon.

He

is the doctor who did major research on Nattokinase with a Japanese

doctor. His specialty is cardiology. I will let you know how this

goes! In the menatime, I have to bring my Mom up to a Chinatown to

see the Chinese doctor. She needs a refill on her herbs.

I wish all of you in this group could experience this herb store.

It's like walking into a SUPER Walmart!! It's like going into herb

heaven!

 

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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