Chinese Language Texts for Chinese Herbal Materia Medica + Formulae

[Guest guest]

David,

 

I find the zhongyi yaoxue gaoji congshu series, published by renmin weisheng

chubanshe to be very good. There's lots of detail in those books. Their

materia medica is huge (two fat books, in Chinese), and so is there fangji

xue. They also have a shang han lun and wenbing xue, with comments and

interpretations.

I will be lucky if I ever read through (and try to comprehend) the whole

series!

 

As far as I know though, they are only available from China. You could try

ordering through China International Book Tradings Company.

 

Best of luck,

 

Tom.

 

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David Gordon

05/21/05 12:30:19

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Language Texts for Chinese Herbal Materia Medica +

Formulae

 

Z'ev and other scholars,

 

Could you possibly help me by recommending the best text(s) for

Chinese herbal materia medica (in Chinese language), ie the best in

terms of the scope and/or depth of the material?

 

Likewise, for Chinese herbal formulae?

 

I am currently re-working my herb studies, but in Chinese instead of

English, but having difficulty finding appropriate texts.

 

I would be grateful if you could give publishers, authors,

distributors, etc.

 

Many many thanks!

 

Also, Z'ev some time ago I think you recommended what you felt were

the best translations of the Shang Han Lun and Wen Bing. Could you

possibly repeat those?

 

Some time ago we bounced around the idea of you starting a school of

TCM and if I remember correctly you withdrew from that idea. Maybe an

intersting half-way house would be for you to put together some

reading lists and a syllabus (or syllabuses designed for people from

different backgrounds and with different study objectives)? I would

personally find something like that invaluable.

 

With best regards

 

David Gordon

 

 

[Guest guest]

In addition to the titles by renmin weisheng that Tom listed, you

should check out the series published by Shanghai Technology press

(shanghai keji). Chinese people refer to the different editions as

the 5th and 6th edition (wu ban and qi ban), these two are the best.

 

The 7th edition of the PRC standard curriculum was split along several

different publishers: Some of the most notable are the series known as

21st century, and the texts put out by zhongguo zhongyiyao chubanshe

and hunan keji (Hunan technology).

 

A good student book is yi bai tian xue zhong yao (lit. 100 days study

CM), also by shanghai keji.

 

Renmin weisheng also has a nice new zhongyao xue text with lots of

flow charts. It is more concise than the big yellow hardbacks that

Tom is referring to below. Those big ones have a lot on pharmacology

in addition to the basics.

 

Almost all of these books contain basically the same info, but they

all have a slightly different character. They are all titled zhong

yao xue (lit. " Chinese medicinal study " ), and the formula editions are

called fang ji xue (formula study).

 

If you can read simplified Chinese, the zhong yao xue text put out by

zhuyin from Taiwan is a really good one- the student edition is the

same as shanghai's fifth edition, but the teacher's edition is a

really good read (I think it may exist in simplified as well).

 

Call Niming books in LA if you live in America. They should have all

this stuff and will know it by the colloquial names such as shanghai

keji wu ban zhong yao xue, etc. NIMING BOOKS CO, 969 N. Hill St Los

Angeles, CA, 90012, (213)687-9817

 

Eric Brand

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote:

> David,

>

> I find the zhongyi yaoxue gaoji congshu series, published by renmin

weisheng

> chubanshe to be very good. There's lots of detail in those books. Their

> materia medica is huge (two fat books, in Chinese), and so is there

fangji

> xue. They also have a shang han lun and wenbing xue, with comments and

> interpretations.

> I will be lucky if I ever read through (and try to comprehend) the whole

> series!

>

> As far as I know though, they are only available from China. You

could try

> ordering through China International Book Tradings Company.

>

> Best of luck,

>

> Tom.

>

> ----

>

> David Gordon

> 05/21/05 12:30:19

> Chinese Medicine

> Chinese Language Texts for Chinese Herbal Materia

Medica +

> Formulae

>

> Z'ev and other scholars,

>

> Could you possibly help me by recommending the best text(s) for

> Chinese herbal materia medica (in Chinese language), ie the best in

> terms of the scope and/or depth of the material?

>

> Likewise, for Chinese herbal formulae?

>

> I am currently re-working my herb studies, but in Chinese instead of

> English, but having difficulty finding appropriate texts.

>

> I would be grateful if you could give publishers, authors,

> distributors, etc.

>

> Many many thanks!

>

> Also, Z'ev some time ago I think you recommended what you felt were

> the best translations of the Shang Han Lun and Wen Bing. Could you

> possibly repeat those?

>

> Some time ago we bounced around the idea of you starting a school of

> TCM and if I remember correctly you withdrew from that idea. Maybe an

> intersting half-way house would be for you to put together some

> reading lists and a syllabus (or syllabuses designed for people from

> different backgrounds and with different study objectives)? I would

> personally find something like that invaluable.

>

> With best regards

>

> David Gordon

>

>

[Guest guest]

Typo correction on the colloquial names for the book titles:

 

5th edition= wu ban

6th edition= liu ban

7th edition= qi ban

 

You don't need to mess around with ISBN numbers or anything. All

Chinese people who have studied TCM know what is meant by " wu ban, "

" liu ban, " and " qi ban. " They are the standard texts for the PRC

curriculum.

 

Eric

[Guest guest]

> > the best translations of the Shang Han Lun and Wen Bing. Could you

> > possibly repeat those?

 

 

The Paradigm Shang Han Lun by Feng Ye, Nigel Wiseman, and Craig

Mitchell is the best SHL.

 

Eric

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom and Eric and Z'ev:-

 

Tom, thank you for your recommendations to the zhongyi yaoxue gaoji

congshu series, published by renmin weisheng chubanshe. I'll track

these down.

 

Eric, thank you for various suggestions on the herbal texts. I'm in UK

and my only decent contact for getting Chinese language texts (so far)

is Dr Ming at tcmtreatment.com, so I'll be onto him soon about these.

Regarding the Ye, Wiseman & Mitchell " Shang Han Lun " , I was browsing

this the other day in the Acumedic bookshop in London, so I will

definitely acquire this.

 

Z'ev, I've just found your recommendation to Liu's Warm Disease text

from Eastland Press in a previous post - thank you for this.

 

One more thought: do any of you have a recommended English

translation/commentary of the Nan Jing?

 

All the best,

 

David

 

-Learn from the past, plan for the future, but live in the present!

[Guest guest]

Chinese Medicine , " David Gordon "

<junhengclinic> wrote:

I'm in UK

> and my only decent contact for getting Chinese language texts (so far)

> is Dr Ming at tcmtreatment.com, so I'll be onto him soon about these.

 

 

You should easily be able to get these books in London. Go to

Chinatown, go to a Chinese bookstore or pharmacy, and then ask them

for the best Chinese bookstore for CM books. London should have such

a store. Here's some ISBN's in case you need them:

 

liu ban (shanghai keji jishu chubanshe) zhong yao xue: 7-5323-3706-5

wu ban (also shanghai keji) zhong yao xue: 7-5323-0497-3

qi ban renmin weisheng zhong yao xue tu biao jie (the one with the

flow charts): 7-117-06090-5

qi ban zhong yao xue (Hunan keji jishu chubanshe): 7-5357-0397-6

 

All these books are very cheap. The cover price on each of them is

only about 2-3 UK pounds. The price of Chinese books is reason alone

to study Chinese language!

 

Good luck.

 

Eric

[Guest guest]

There is one Chinese bookshop in Chinatown, UK. If you enter Chinatown from

Leicester Square, you can't miss it. £2-3 a copy, no chance! Normal

over-priced rates apply.

 

Kind regards,

 

Attilio D'Alberto

Doctor of (Beijing, China)

BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

07786198900

attiliodalberto

<http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com

 

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Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Eric

Brand

22 May 2005 16:43

Chinese Medicine

Re: Chinese Language Texts for Chinese Herbal Materia Medica

+ Formulae

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " David Gordon "

<junhengclinic> wrote:

I'm in UK

> and my only decent contact for getting Chinese language texts (so far)

> is Dr Ming at tcmtreatment.com, so I'll be onto him soon about these.

 

 

You should easily be able to get these books in London. Go to

Chinatown, go to a Chinese bookstore or pharmacy, and then ask them

for the best Chinese bookstore for CM books. London should have such

a store. Here's some ISBN's in case you need them:

 

liu ban (shanghai keji jishu chubanshe) zhong yao xue: 7-5323-3706-5

wu ban (also shanghai keji) zhong yao xue: 7-5323-0497-3

qi ban renmin weisheng zhong yao xue tu biao jie (the one with the

flow charts): 7-117-06090-5

qi ban zhong yao xue (Hunan keji jishu chubanshe): 7-5357-0397-6

 

All these books are very cheap. The cover price on each of them is

only about 2-3 UK pounds. The price of Chinese books is reason alone

to study Chinese language!

 

Good luck.

 

Eric

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Eric and Attilio,

 

Thank you both again for your detailed help (ISBNs and ideas about

going to Chinatown). Actually I know the bookshop Attilio is referring

to; been there several times. I think it's called " Ling Hua " or

something similar.

 

And yes, I now remember that they have some shelves (high up on the

left as you walk in) that are reasonably well stocked with Chinese

Medicine books (in Chinese). The thing is I never had any

recommendations to aim for, so I never considered it in the past - and

then plain forgot about the shop.

 

Thanks again. I'll go this week.

 

All the best, David