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Hello all,

 

If anyone knows of any acupuncturists in Spain that may be willing to

provide me with information regarding the legal status and practice of

acupuncture there, I would greatly appreciate any information you/they

may be able to provide, either here or directly to me off-list

(kchamill).

 

I live in NY (USA), and am an American as well as Irish citizen,

planning on moving to Madrid. I have been licensed/practicing for 7

years.

 

I have been looking for information regarding acupuncture laws,

licensing/transferring credentials, etc. in Spain but have not had much

luck so far.

 

I have checked Google pretty extensively, and the Ministerio de

Sanidad's website also, but to no avail. I have also read on

www.sedolor.es that as of January 2004, acupuncture may only be

performed/practiced by medical doctors; I am hoping I misunderstood the

article due to my rusty Spanish. Perhaps someone will be able to

clarify that.

 

Thank you in advance and appreciate any help you might be able to

provide.

 

 

Kevin Hamill, L.Ac., B.Sc.

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Hi Kevin,

 

Most of Europe uses Napoleonic law, including Spain. This means that only

MDs can practice acupuncture even though you are qualified and licensed to

do so in your own country. There are ways around this by working under a

sympathetic MD, but they may limit what you can practice and on what type of

patients.

 

Kind regards

 

Attilio D'Alberto

Doctor of (Beijing, China)

BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

07786198900

attiliodalberto

<http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com

 

 

Kevin Hamill [kchamill]

04 April 2005 09:12

Chinese Medicine

Acupuncture, Spain

 

 

Hello all,

 

If anyone knows of any acupuncturists in Spain that may be willing to

provide me with information regarding the legal status and practice of

acupuncture there, I would greatly appreciate any information you/they

may be able to provide, either here or directly to me off-list

(kchamill).

 

I live in NY (USA), and am an American as well as Irish citizen,

planning on moving to Madrid. I have been licensed/practicing for 7

years.

 

I have been looking for information regarding acupuncture laws,

licensing/transferring credentials, etc. in Spain but have not had much

luck so far.

 

I have checked Google pretty extensively, and the Ministerio de

Sanidad's website also, but to no avail. I have also read on

www.sedolor.es that as of January 2004, acupuncture may only be

performed/practiced by medical doctors; I am hoping I misunderstood the

article due to my rusty Spanish. Perhaps someone will be able to

clarify that.

 

Thank you in advance and appreciate any help you might be able to

provide.

 

 

Kevin Hamill, L.Ac., B.Sc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://babel.altavista.com/

 

 

and adjust

accordingly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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hiya everyone,

 

I am currently trying to write out my dissertation on pain

management and an wondering if anyone has articles or anything of the sort

that can help me out. I am finding it really hard :(

 

Many thanks

 

Dimple

 

> " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>RE: Acupuncture, Spain

>Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:56:36 +0100

>

>Hi Kevin,

>

>Most of Europe uses Napoleonic law, including Spain. This means that only

>MDs can practice acupuncture even though you are qualified and licensed to

>do so in your own country. There are ways around this by working under a

>sympathetic MD, but they may limit what you can practice and on what type

>of

>patients.

>

>Kind regards

>

>Attilio D'Alberto

>Doctor of (Beijing, China)

>BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

>07786198900

>attiliodalberto

> <http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com

>

>

>Kevin Hamill [kchamill]

>04 April 2005 09:12

>Chinese Medicine

>Acupuncture, Spain

>

>

>Hello all,

>

>If anyone knows of any acupuncturists in Spain that may be willing to

>provide me with information regarding the legal status and practice of

>acupuncture there, I would greatly appreciate any information you/they

>may be able to provide, either here or directly to me off-list

>(kchamill).

>

>I live in NY (USA), and am an American as well as Irish citizen,

>planning on moving to Madrid. I have been licensed/practicing for 7

>years.

>

>I have been looking for information regarding acupuncture laws,

>licensing/transferring credentials, etc. in Spain but have not had much

>luck so far.

>

>I have checked Google pretty extensively, and the Ministerio de

>Sanidad's website also, but to no avail. I have also read on

>www.sedolor.es that as of January 2004, acupuncture may only be

>performed/practiced by medical doctors; I am hoping I misunderstood the

>article due to my rusty Spanish. Perhaps someone will be able to

>clarify that.

>

>Thank you in advance and appreciate any help you might be able to

>provide.

>

>

>Kevin Hamill, L.Ac., B.Sc.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>http://babel.altavista.com/

>

>

> and adjust

>accordingly.

>

>Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group

>requires prior permission from the author.

>

>If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics,

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

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Something from my writings you might find useful:

 

Pain is always a disharmony.

A disharmony may or may not be pain.

 

If you treat pain and not the disharmony, pain will go away to come back

as another

illness which bears no resemblance to the original condition.

 

Example, migraine:

 

If it is chronic and temporal, and is reduced by GB SJ points as in the

texts, it will

keep relapsing, and sooner or later turn into an illness of ST.

 

Such a pain should be diagnosed as a 5 E pattern and then treated.

 

Pattern: A LU xu GB Rising temporal migraine pattern.

Treatment protocol: Tone LU with Mother point and reduce GB with a Son

point.

 

Pattern: A LV Stagnated ST Rising frontal migraine pattern.

Treatment protocol: Harmonize LV and reduce ST with a Son point.

 

Example, sprained ankle:

If it is a habitual incident and happens again and again over years, and

the ankle

turns inwards, and it is more R than L ankle, this is a GB based illness

with the

ankle pain playing a minor role.

 

Treat this with harmonizing LV and working out kinks in the GB vessel.

 

As often the Dai on R side or L is culpable.

 

Pain in terms of qi gradient:

If there is a blocked qi, proximal part will be acute and excess pain

and the

distal chronic and numb pain.

 

If block is partly released or becomes chronic, proximal part will be

chronic and

distal an ache.

 

Treat both conditions as an asymmetry, which must be identified and

righted. Such

a pain, unless acute, is never directly treated.

 

Trade mark pain types:

Head and neck rigidity and pain - HT xu.

Sciatica - if violent - a LU condition.

Sciatica - if low grade - a K condition.

Sciatica - if changing from R to L & back - a LV condition.

R Sciatica with L shoulder anomalies - a spine or Dai asymmetry.

 

Pain which throbs - component of Heat and Fire.

Treat by draining Heat.

 

Pain which aches- component of Cold and Damp.

Treat by applying Heat.

 

Pain acute with h/o injury - Blood stagnation.

Treat by bleeding.

 

Pain which is timely on horary clock - problem on that or opposite vessel.

Treat by vessel on one or other side of the clock.

 

In a sense there is no pain without blocked qi.

In a sense there can be blocked qi with an entire absence of pain.

 

Here is a Q for you:

What causes the fiercest pain, a Heat and Fiery condition, or a Cold

invasion one?

 

Hope this helps.

 

Holmes.

www.acu-free.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dimple Sharma wrote:

 

> hiya everyone,

>

> I am currently trying to write out my dissertation on pain

> management and an wondering if anyone has articles or anything of the

> sort

> that can help me out. I am finding it really hard :(

>

> Many thanks

>

> Dimple

>

 

 

 

 

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thank you for taking time out for sending me that. thats great information.

Thank you very much.

 

kind regards,

dimple

 

>dkakobad <dkaikobad

>Chinese Medicine

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: Acupuncture, Spain

>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:21:04 -0700

>

>Something from my writings you might find useful:

>

>Pain is always a disharmony.

>A disharmony may or may not be pain.

>

>If you treat pain and not the disharmony, pain will go away to come back

>as another

>illness which bears no resemblance to the original condition.

>

>Example, migraine:

>

>If it is chronic and temporal, and is reduced by GB SJ points as in the

>texts, it will

>keep relapsing, and sooner or later turn into an illness of ST.

>

>Such a pain should be diagnosed as a 5 E pattern and then treated.

>

>Pattern: A LU xu GB Rising temporal migraine pattern.

>Treatment protocol: Tone LU with Mother point and reduce GB with a Son

>point.

>

>Pattern: A LV Stagnated ST Rising frontal migraine pattern.

>Treatment protocol: Harmonize LV and reduce ST with a Son point.

>

>Example, sprained ankle:

>If it is a habitual incident and happens again and again over years, and

>the ankle

>turns inwards, and it is more R than L ankle, this is a GB based illness

>with the

>ankle pain playing a minor role.

>

>Treat this with harmonizing LV and working out kinks in the GB vessel.

>

>As often the Dai on R side or L is culpable.

>

>Pain in terms of qi gradient:

>If there is a blocked qi, proximal part will be acute and excess pain

>and the

>distal chronic and numb pain.

>

>If block is partly released or becomes chronic, proximal part will be

>chronic and

>distal an ache.

>

>Treat both conditions as an asymmetry, which must be identified and

>righted. Such

>a pain, unless acute, is never directly treated.

>

>Trade mark pain types:

>Head and neck rigidity and pain - HT xu.

>Sciatica - if violent - a LU condition.

>Sciatica - if low grade - a K condition.

>Sciatica - if changing from R to L & back - a LV condition.

>R Sciatica with L shoulder anomalies - a spine or Dai asymmetry.

>

>Pain which throbs - component of Heat and Fire.

>Treat by draining Heat.

>

>Pain which aches- component of Cold and Damp.

>Treat by applying Heat.

>

>Pain acute with h/o injury - Blood stagnation.

>Treat by bleeding.

>

>Pain which is timely on horary clock - problem on that or opposite vessel.

>Treat by vessel on one or other side of the clock.

>

>In a sense there is no pain without blocked qi.

>In a sense there can be blocked qi with an entire absence of pain.

>

>Here is a Q for you:

>What causes the fiercest pain, a Heat and Fiery condition, or a Cold

>invasion one?

>

>Hope this helps.

>

>Holmes.

>www.acu-free.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Dimple Sharma wrote:

>

> > hiya everyone,

> >

> > I am currently trying to write out my dissertation on pain

> > management and an wondering if anyone has articles or anything of the

> > sort

> > that can help me out. I am finding it really hard :(

> >

> > Many thanks

> >

> > Dimple

> >

>

>

>

>

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Yoi are welcome.

Today;s student is tomorrow's great healer.

 

Holmes.

 

 

Dimple Sharma wrote:

 

> thank you for taking time out for sending me that. thats great

> information.

> Thank you very much.

>

> kind regards,

> dimple

>

> >dkakobad <dkaikobad

> >Chinese Medicine

> >Chinese Medicine

> >Re: Acupuncture, Spain

> >Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:21:04 -0700

> >

> >Something from my writings you might find useful:

> >

> >Pain is always a disharmony.

> >A disharmony may or may not be pain.

> >

> >If you treat pain and not the disharmony, pain will go away to come back

> >as another

> >illness which bears no resemblance to the original condition.

> >

> >Example, migraine:

> >

> >If it is chronic and temporal, and is reduced by GB SJ points as in the

> >texts, it will

> >keep relapsing, and sooner or later turn into an illness of ST.

> >

> >Such a pain should be diagnosed as a 5 E pattern and then treated.

> >

 

 

 

 

 

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Valerie Mendels is an acupuncturist practicing in Spain. Her email is

valeriemendels. If you need address and phone number, I can

email you privately. Sorry it took so long to respond. She was out of

the country, then when I came up for air, I finally got it to you.

 

Good luck,

 

Anne

 

 

 

 

Kevin Hamill wrote:

 

> Hello all,

>

> If anyone knows of any acupuncturists in Spain that may be willing to

> provide me with information regarding the legal status and practice of

> acupuncture there, I would greatly appreciate any information you/they

> may be able to provide, either here or directly to me off-list

> (kchamill).

>

> I live in NY (USA), and am an American as well as Irish citizen,

> planning on moving to Madrid. I have been licensed/practicing for 7

> years.

>

> I have been looking for information regarding acupuncture laws,

> licensing/transferring credentials, etc. in Spain but have not had much

> luck so far.

>

> I have checked Google pretty extensively, and the Ministerio de

> Sanidad's website also, but to no avail. I have also read on

> www.sedolor.es that as of January 2004, acupuncture may only be

> performed/practiced by medical doctors; I am hoping I misunderstood the

> article due to my rusty Spanish. Perhaps someone will be able to

> clarify that.

>

> Thank you in advance and appreciate any help you might be able to

> provide.

>

>

> Kevin Hamill, L.Ac., B.Sc.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> http://babel.altavista.com/

>

>

> and

> adjust accordingly.

>

> Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the

> group requires prior permission from the author.

>

> If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

> academics,

>

>

>

> ------

>

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Hi Kevin

 

I live in Caracas-Venezuela, and I am studying acupuncture right now

in my second year, the school were I am studying is originally from

Spain and tehy have established schools in some other places, I am

including here some information about them with contact names, phones

and emails.

 

Good luck with your search,

Ricardo Lorenzi

 

FINLANDIA

HELSINKI

Gandul Saris–Sauri

Dirección: Kristianink 2 B 00170 – HKI

Teléfono: 358 – 9 – 1351692

Fax: 358 –9– 68136530

E-mail: neijing

 

ESTONIA

HAAPSALU

CASA DE EL SUSPIRO LUMINOSO

Sheroke Rico Rami

Dirección: C/ Ungru Tee 27

Haapsalu 90403

Tel/Fax: 37 – 247 – 32254

E-mail: suspiroluminoso

 

 

ALEMANIA

ZEHDENICK

QI TIAN XIN

SOPLO DEL CORAZÓN CELESTE

Teresia Odegard-Struck

Dirección: Grossenhofer Weg20 16792

Zehdenick

Tel/Fax : 49 – 3307311308

E-mail: Qi.Tian.Xin

 

ESPAÑA

Pozo Amargo

Tian Centro de Estudios y Desarrollo de Medicina Tradicional.

Dr. José Luis Padilla Corral

Dirección: Cno. de la Roda s/n

CP 16708 (Cuenca)

Teléfono: 34 - 969 – 387690

Fax: 34 - 969 – 387601

E-mail: oracion97

 

MADRID

Dr. José Luis Padilla Corral

Dirección: C/Menorca nº 1

Madrid 28009

Teléfono: 34-91 – 4090222

Fax: 34-91 – 5767801

E-mail: humanismosanador

 

SEVILLA

CASA DE ORACION

Dra. Carmen Tocado

Dirección: C/ Quinita Flores, 2-bajo, pta. 3 Sevilla 41013

Tel/Fax: 34-95 – 4618009

E-mail: poesia.de.luz

 

PAIS VASCO

Argi Doinu Etxea

La Casa del Sonido de la Luz

Xchanklas Martín

Itziar Elexpe

Dirección: Barrio Untxa nº 1.- Bedarona - Ea.

Vizcaya.

Teléfono: 34-94 – 6278060

 

VALENCIA

Mateo Franco Sanchez

Dirección: C/ Bonavista, nº 11.

Beniganim 46830.

Teléfono: 34-96 – 2216207

 

COLOMBIA

CALI

Dr. Harold Bejarano

Dirección: Kra 65 Nº 3D – 11

Teléfono: 57–2–3390485

Fax: 57-2-3151768

E-mail: neijingkali

 

SANTA FE DE BOGOTA

LA CASA DE LA FE

Javier Parajón

Dirección: Cra. 4, nº: 56-84 sur.

Barrio Danubio Azul –Usme

Correo: Apdo Correos Nº 4822

Fax: 57 – 1 – 5682692

Teléfono, consulta: 57 – 1 – 5684683

E-mail: serviciosagrado

 

MEDELLIN

Dr. Sergio Pineda

Dirección: Calle 49 DD Nº 81C-62

Teléfono: 57 – 4 – 2341602

Fax: 57 – 4 – 4211000

Dirección: Calle 57 Nº 50A-58

Teléfono: 57 – 4 – 5130837

E-mail: artesan

 

LA CASA DE LA CRISÁLIDA

Dirección: Autopista Med-Bog. Km. 32

Vereda Garrido (Guarne)

Tel/Fax: 57 – 4 – 5300254 / 5301849

 

BARRANQUILLA

Dr. SERGIO BARRIOS

Dirección: Carrera 60, nº 79/369. Barrio Paraíso

Teléfono: 57 - 5 – 3787947

 

TUNJA

MARTA RIVERO

Dirección: Calle 18 nº. 12-28

Teléfono: 57 - 87 – 401746

 

VENEZUELA

 

MARACAY

Dr. Jesús Velázquez

Dirección: C/ Paez 85. La Candelaria. Maracay. Edo. Aragua

Tel/Fax: 58 – 243 – 2836436

Tel. Consulta: 58 – 243 - 2830866

E mail: arepa3

 

CARACAS

Dr. Juan José Sánchez

Dirección: Av. / Caroni 111 Quinta Isabella.

Valle Abajo. Caracas

Teléfono: 58 – 212 – 6935893

Móvil: 679384478

E-mail: tianvenezuela

 

PERÚ

LIMA

Dr. Manuel Contreras

Dirección: Av. Arica 274. Lima 32.

Tel/Fax: 51 – 1 – 2634067

E-mail: piedad

ECUADOR

QUITO

Dra. Gloria Navarro

Correo: Central de Correos de Tumbaco. Quito.

Tel/Fax: 593 – 2 – 371533

 

REPUBLICA DOMINICANA

SANTO DOMINGO

Dr. Iñaki Sanchez

Dirección: Calle Sagrario Díaz, nº 5 - Bella Vista

 

Teléfono: 1 – 809 – 5346458

Fax: 1 – 809 – 4734508

E-mail: casadelvuelo

 

SANTIAGO DE LOS CABALLEROS

Dirección: Calle esquina Bueno Motors # 3. Av. Estrella Shadalá

(frente a la Farmacia Firiley)

Santiago.

Teléfono: 1 – 809 – 7243531

E-mail: estrellafugaz

 

BRASIL

PORTO ALEGRE

D. Vitor Lima

Dirección: José de Pattrocinio,621-Cidade Baixa

 

CEP 90050 - 001 Porto Alegre.

Rio Grande do Sul

Tel/Fax: 55 – 51 – 32244216

E-mail: neijing-poa

 

RÍO DE JANEIRO

Dr. Alfons Endres

Dirección: Rua do Triunfo, 38 Santa Tereza

CEP 20240 – 320

Río de Janeiro

Teléfono: 55 – 21 - 25095738

E-mail: neijingrio

 

URUGUAY

CANELONES

Jesús Manuel Rodríguez

Dirección: Calle 53, manzana 271, solar 6 .

Solymar. Canelones.

Teléfono: 598 – 2 – 6959258

Fax: 598 – 2 –6960381

E-mail: tien

 

ARGENTINA

BUENOS AIRES

CASA DEL VUELO

Dr. Juan David Osorio

Dirección: C/ Arturo Jauretche, n 37

CP 1405

Tel/Fax: 54 – 11 – 49824507

E-mail: casadelvuelo

 

MAR DEL PLATA

Dr. Lieque Leonardo

Dirección: Av. Jara 1066. CP. 7600

Teléfono: 54– 223–4759024

E-mail: tianmar

 

MÉXICO

CANCÚN

EL ÁNIMA DEL VIENTO

Spyros Root

Dirección : Calle 6, Mz 15, L 14 SMz 61

Colonia López Portillo. Cancún,

Quintana Roo, México 77514

Teléfono: 52 – 98 – 841335

E-mail: humasana

 

MÉXICO D.F.

Alba Lucia Arias

Dirección: C/ Minatitlan, 31.

Colonia Roma Sur

Delegación Cuathemoc.

C:P: 06760 México D.F.

Teléfono: 52-55-644810

E-mail: Perladejade

 

PUEBLA

Dirección: C/ Río Suchiate, nº 5538.

Colonia San Manuel. Puebla.

Tel/Fax: 52-22-447227

 

MONTERREY

Dr. Leopoldo Martos

Dirección: C/ Josep Roberton 371.

Colonia Chepevera.

Monterey. Nvo. León.

Teléfono: 52-8-3462926

E-mail:

escuelaneijingmty

 

NORUEGA

OSLO

LING

Edel Huru

Dirección: Kroerveien 70. 1430 Ls

Teléfono: 47 – 64 – 944491

Fax: 47 – 64 – 941094

E-mail: neijing

 

 

On 4/20/05, Anne Crowley <blazing.valley wrote:

> Valerie Mendels is an acupuncturist practicing in Spain. Her email is

> valeriemendels. If you need address and phone number, I can

> email you privately. Sorry it took so long to respond. She was out of

> the country, then when I came up for air, I finally got it to you.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Anne

>

>

>

>

> Kevin Hamill wrote:

>

> > Hello all,

> >

> > If anyone knows of any acupuncturists in Spain that may be willing to

> > provide me with information regarding the legal status and practice of

> > acupuncture there, I would greatly appreciate any information you/they

> > may be able to provide, either here or directly to me off-list

> > (kchamill).

> >

> > I live in NY (USA), and am an American as well as Irish citizen,

> > planning on moving to Madrid. I have been licensed/practicing for 7

> > years.

> >

> > I have been looking for information regarding acupuncture laws,

> > licensing/transferring credentials, etc. in Spain but have not had much

> > luck so far.

> >

> > I have checked Google pretty extensively, and the Ministerio de

> > Sanidad's website also, but to no avail. I have also read on

> > www.sedolor.es that as of January 2004, acupuncture may only be

> > performed/practiced by medical doctors; I am hoping I misunderstood the

> > article due to my rusty Spanish. Perhaps someone will be able to

> > clarify that.

> >

> > Thank you in advance and appreciate any help you might be able to

> > provide.

> >

> >

> > Kevin Hamill, L.Ac., B.Sc.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > http://babel.altavista.com/

> >

> >

> >

>

> and

> > adjust accordingly.

> >

> > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the

> > group requires prior permission from the author.

> >

> > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

> > academics,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ------

> >

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