Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Dear Doc, I noticed you have just returned from Asia. I am emailing from the UK where I have assembled a team of excellent practitioners who want to go and work out in an area where people have been affected by the Tsunami. We also have equipment and funding. I am finding it difficult to find a group/clinic/project who will host us. Indonesia seems like a closed door due to the chaos of another earthquake, as well as the danger of fighting in Aceh. I am now trying to sort something out in Sri Lanka. Any ideas? best wishes Danny Maxwell Quoting Chinese Medicine : > > > There are 13 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. RE: RE: channel reality > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > 2. Re: RE: channel reality > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > 3. Moxa Treatment to Improve Vision > " Turiya Hill " <turiya > 4. Re: RE: hives > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > 5. RE: RE: channel reality > <> > 6. ACUPUNCTURE in DISASTERS AND MEDICAL EMERGENCIES Actual Dates and > costs > Doc <Doc > 7. Re: ACUPUNCTURE in DISASTERS AND MEDICAL EMERGENCIES Actual Dates > and... > ktarnower > 8. Re: ACUPUNCTURE in DISASTERS AND MEDICAL EMERGENCIES Actual Dates > and costs > " Northfield Clinic " <nfc > 9. Face Color Diagnosis > " Gye Bennetts " <five-element > 10. Re: The Treatment of Musculoskeletal Disorders > " " <alonmarcus > 11. Re: treatment of musculoskeletal disorders > " " <alonmarcus > 12. Re: treatment of musculoskeletal disorders > " kampo36 " <kampo36 > 13. RE: RE: channel reality > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:32:01 +0000 > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > RE: RE: channel reality > > One function of DNA is communication. The system postulated by Manaka might > be the same thing that Bonghan and Soh researched. Manaka wrote about a > simple experiment that is important and involved the direction of needling. > He needled a reactive point in direction that eliminated pain and then > reversed this and brought the pain back. > > Simple forms of life involve DNA. This system of tubules contained large > amounts of DNA and RNA that I feel may be the physical basis for jing luo > vessels. Bonghan reported that two different types of waves were present. > In other words, he found that chemical and bio-electrical properties were > present and reported in his book, " On the Kyungrak System " . > > > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > > > > <> > >Chinese Medicine > ><Chinese Medicine > > >RE: RE: channel reality > >Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:59:20 +1000 > > > >Hi Mike, > >Manaka postulated that underlying the nervous system is another more basic > >information system. He called this the Signal - X system, X being standard > >notation for the unknown. > > > >He postulated that this signal goes back to more simple forms of life ie > >the > >invertebrates that still had a communication system without a nervous > >system. > > > >To activate this system, one must not disturb the 'nosier' nervous system, > >ie one must not elicit a nervous system response in the patient. He > >activated this system with polarity type information, such as ion pumping > >cords, electro-static absorbers, colour, magnets, moxa, different metals in > >needles utilising their metallic properties, thumb and forefinger (-/+), > >supplement and draining points, open points based on time and so on. > > > >Manaka activated the system by such polarity means, and did not tonify or > >'disperse'. I speculate that this might have been because such activity > >would have engaged the nervous system.... that is just my guess. > > > >He made many little experiments; for instance he would find that a magnet > >on > >LI ear point would reduce or increase the palpation pressure on LI 4 > >depending if it were Nth or Sth facing. If he used the left ear for the > >right LI 4 he would need to reverse the polarity to get the same effect as > >the right ear on the right LI 4. > > > >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand. > > > >Manaka also did the same for the Front Mu points and their respective Yuan > >source points. From this he found differences between Classical Mu points > >and those that worked in clinic for the meridians. > > > >He looked amongst another's to Topology theory, System theory, Chaos > >theory,and Quantum physics to explain the interactions he found in the > >body. > > > >One of his aims was to develop an explanation between TEAM (Traditional > >East > >Asian Medicine) theory and Science. This then was the Signal - X theory, > >that captured both. > > > >His work is fascinating as he was a western trained physician, an Oriental > >who read many of the Classics in their original text form from many Asian > >countries, he was an artist, and so on. He spanned East and West, ancient > >texts and modern physics. And perhaps above all else it had to work in > >clinic and could not get bogged down in theory. His work is a bridge > >allowing travel in many directions, especially for a Caucasian like me who > >is a product of a western science material based culture learning to > >interact via acupuncture with the body. > > > >Best wishes, > > > > > > > > mike Bowser [naturaldoc1] > > Wednesday, 30 March 2005 2:05 AM > > Chinese Medicine > > Re: RE: channel reality > > > > > > Ever shine a light in water? The speed of light is faster than the > >nervous > > conduction as far as we know. One research study on the physics site is > > that light was conducted along this pathway and could be measure at > >another > > point on the same pathway. One final thought here is that cells need > >and > > operate with various chemicals including hormones (estrogean and > >adrenalin), > > which several were found in these tubules in amounts that far exceeded > >all > > other internal sources combined as was DNA and RNA. I do not buy into > >the > > nervous system theory for this as it does not explain growth and > > development. > > > > > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > > > > > > > > " " <alonmarcus > > >Chinese Medicine > > ><Chinese Medicine > > > >Re: RE: channel reality > > >Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:14:45 -0600 > > > > > >I also think a physical > > > " fluid " couldn't account for the speed of acupuncture nor the extreme > > >non-locality of many point selections. > > > >>>>>It is interesting to note that we now know that brain synapses > >can > > >change permanently within seconds to minutes. This has been shown in > > >amputation studies both animal and human. It was known for a long time > >that > > >areas of the brain can take over when injured, but it is now known that > > >changes can occur within seconds to minutes and these are often > >hard-wired > > >changes. This could explain some of what we see with acupuncture. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Dear Danny, I have a lot of contacts in Sri Lanka and could put you in touch with people and places that would hugely welcome your help and assist you to put it in place. My contacts are in the Buddhist, Ayurvedic and Business communities. I live in the UK in London. Email me on nadia and I will help you all I can. Best wishes, Nadia Brydon MNIMH, MRCHM, Dip Ac, Dip Phyt, MAR, HMA (student), MBRCP. - danny Chinese Medicine Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:39 PM Re: Acupuncture in Tsunami affected areas Dear Doc, I noticed you have just returned from Asia. I am emailing from the UK where I have assembled a team of excellent practitioners who want to go and work out in an area where people have been affected by the Tsunami. We also have equipment and funding. I am finding it difficult to find a group/clinic/project who will host us. Indonesia seems like a closed door due to the chaos of another earthquake, as well as the danger of fighting in Aceh. I am now trying to sort something out in Sri Lanka. Any ideas? best wishes Danny Maxwell Quoting Chinese Medicine : > > > There are 13 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. RE: RE: channel reality > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > 2. Re: RE: channel reality > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > 3. Moxa Treatment to Improve Vision > " Turiya Hill " <turiya > 4. Re: RE: hives > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > 5. RE: RE: channel reality > <> > 6. ACUPUNCTURE in DISASTERS AND MEDICAL EMERGENCIES Actual Dates and > costs > Doc <Doc > 7. Re: ACUPUNCTURE in DISASTERS AND MEDICAL EMERGENCIES Actual Dates > and... > ktarnower > 8. Re: ACUPUNCTURE in DISASTERS AND MEDICAL EMERGENCIES Actual Dates > and costs > " Northfield Clinic " <nfc > 9. Face Color Diagnosis > " Gye Bennetts " <five-element > 10. Re: The Treatment of Musculoskeletal Disorders > " " <alonmarcus > 11. Re: treatment of musculoskeletal disorders > " " <alonmarcus > 12. Re: treatment of musculoskeletal disorders > " kampo36 " <kampo36 > 13. RE: RE: channel reality > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:32:01 +0000 > " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 > RE: RE: channel reality > > One function of DNA is communication. The system postulated by Manaka might > be the same thing that Bonghan and Soh researched. Manaka wrote about a > simple experiment that is important and involved the direction of needling. > He needled a reactive point in direction that eliminated pain and then > reversed this and brought the pain back. > > Simple forms of life involve DNA. This system of tubules contained large > amounts of DNA and RNA that I feel may be the physical basis for jing luo > vessels. Bonghan reported that two different types of waves were present. > In other words, he found that chemical and bio-electrical properties were > present and reported in his book, " On the Kyungrak System " . > > > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > > > > <> > >Chinese Medicine > ><Chinese Medicine > > >RE: RE: channel reality > >Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:59:20 +1000 > > > >Hi Mike, > >Manaka postulated that underlying the nervous system is another more basic > >information system. He called this the Signal - X system, X being standard > >notation for the unknown. > > > >He postulated that this signal goes back to more simple forms of life ie > >the > >invertebrates that still had a communication system without a nervous > >system. > > > >To activate this system, one must not disturb the 'nosier' nervous system, > >ie one must not elicit a nervous system response in the patient. He > >activated this system with polarity type information, such as ion pumping > >cords, electro-static absorbers, colour, magnets, moxa, different metals in > >needles utilising their metallic properties, thumb and forefinger (-/+), > >supplement and draining points, open points based on time and so on. > > > >Manaka activated the system by such polarity means, and did not tonify or > >'disperse'. I speculate that this might have been because such activity > >would have engaged the nervous system.... that is just my guess. > > > >He made many little experiments; for instance he would find that a magnet > >on > >LI ear point would reduce or increase the palpation pressure on LI 4 > >depending if it were Nth or Sth facing. If he used the left ear for the > >right LI 4 he would need to reverse the polarity to get the same effect as > >the right ear on the right LI 4. > > > >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand. > > > >Manaka also did the same for the Front Mu points and their respective Yuan > >source points. From this he found differences between Classical Mu points > >and those that worked in clinic for the meridians. > > > >He looked amongst another's to Topology theory, System theory, Chaos > >theory,and Quantum physics to explain the interactions he found in the > >body. > > > >One of his aims was to develop an explanation between TEAM (Traditional > >East > >Asian Medicine) theory and Science. This then was the Signal - X theory, > >that captured both. > > > >His work is fascinating as he was a western trained physician, an Oriental > >who read many of the Classics in their original text form from many Asian > >countries, he was an artist, and so on. He spanned East and West, ancient > >texts and modern physics. And perhaps above all else it had to work in > >clinic and could not get bogged down in theory. His work is a bridge > >allowing travel in many directions, especially for a Caucasian like me who > >is a product of a western science material based culture learning to > >interact via acupuncture with the body. > > > >Best wishes, > > > > > > > > mike Bowser [naturaldoc1] > > Wednesday, 30 March 2005 2:05 AM > > Chinese Medicine > > Re: RE: channel reality > > > > > > Ever shine a light in water? The speed of light is faster than the > >nervous > > conduction as far as we know. One research study on the physics site is > > that light was conducted along this pathway and could be measure at > >another > > point on the same pathway. One final thought here is that cells need > >and > > operate with various chemicals including hormones (estrogean and > >adrenalin), > > which several were found in these tubules in amounts that far exceeded > >all > > other internal sources combined as was DNA and RNA. I do not buy into > >the > > nervous system theory for this as it does not explain growth and > > development. > > > > > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > > > > > > > > " " <alonmarcus > > >Chinese Medicine > > ><Chinese Medicine > > > >Re: RE: channel reality > > >Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:14:45 -0600 > > > > > >I also think a physical > > > " fluid " couldn't account for the speed of acupuncture nor the extreme > > >non-locality of many point selections. > > > >>>>>It is interesting to note that we now know that brain synapses > >can > > >change permanently within seconds to minutes. This has been shown in > > >amputation studies both animal and human. It was known for a long time > >that > > >areas of the brain can take over when injured, but it is now known that > > >changes can occur within seconds to minutes and these are often > >hard-wired > > >changes. This could explain some of what we see with acupuncture. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Chinese Medicine , danny@o... wrote: > Dear Doc, > > I noticed you have just returned from Asia. I am emailing from the UK where I > have assembled a team of excellent practitioners who want to go and work out in > an area where people have been affected by the Tsunami. We also have equipment > and funding. > > I am finding it difficult to find a group/clinic/project who will host us. > Indonesia seems like a closed door due to the chaos of another earthquake, as > well as the danger of fighting in Aceh. I am now trying to sort something out > in Sri Lanka. > > Any ideas? > > best wishes > > Danny Maxwell > AhHo Danny, I can offer very little help on this. The Governments in the Tsunami areas seem very much concerned with just about everything but helping the people of the region get back to some semblance of normal life. My next trip back thetre will be with a group of Massage Therapists, NADA Certified LAc., and, Buskers. G-d willing I am going back in Nov. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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