Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 The two most prominent schools with CM in Taiwan are Chang Gung University (near Taipei), and China Medical College (Taichung). I believe that both schools have an established history of admitting foreign students, though you would need to be fully matriculated to do the entire program, or, at least in the case of Chang Gung, be required to have a Master's in TCM abroad to take additional elective classes. Classes are in Chinese. Taiwan has many hospitals and private clinics with CM. The ability of foreigners to study in them is primarily limited to personal connections (guanxi) and language. There is a doctor in Taipei who loves foreigners and is famous for taking on many foreigners to give them clinical instruction, but his style of CM is far from mainstream. Good luck and keep in touch if you come. Eric Brand , " mischievous00 " <mischievous00> wrote: > I am interested in going to Taiwan study TCM and Acupuncture for 1- 2 > months. > > Does anyone have any contacts for schools or hospitals in Taiwan > > Thanks > > Brian > > PS...Also, any contacts for shanghai, China. I understand they still > teach the classics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Thanks for the reply. Do you have the contact infomation for the schools. Also, regarding the doctor who teaches, what is his style of CM teaching and do you also have his contact information. I have a masters degree in TCM from SAMRA University in Los Angeles so there should not be a problem getting into a program. Are you currently enrolled in the program or are you doing additonal studies. Thanks again Brian smilinglotus <smilinglotus wrote: The two most prominent schools with CM in Taiwan are Chang Gung University (near Taipei), and China Medical College (Taichung). I believe that both schools have an established history of admitting foreign students, though you would need to be fully matriculated to do the entire program, or, at least in the case of Chang Gung, be required to have a Master's in TCM abroad to take additional elective classes. Classes are in Chinese. Taiwan has many hospitals and private clinics with CM. The ability of foreigners to study in them is primarily limited to personal connections (guanxi) and language. There is a doctor in Taipei who loves foreigners and is famous for taking on many foreigners to give them clinical instruction, but his style of CM is far from mainstream. Good luck and keep in touch if you come. Eric Brand , " mischievous00 " <mischievous00> wrote: > I am interested in going to Taiwan study TCM and Acupuncture for 1- 2 > months. > > Does anyone have any contacts for schools or hospitals in Taiwan > > Thanks > > Brian > > PS...Also, any contacts for shanghai, China. I understand they still > teach the classics Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Brian Hardy <mischievous00> wrote: > Thanks for the reply. Do you have the contact infomation for the schools. Also, regarding the doctor who teaches, what is his style of CM teaching and do you also have his contact information. > > I have a masters degree in TCM from SAMRA University in Los Angeles so there should not be a problem getting into a program. Brian, Getting into a matriculated program is probably not difficult, the more limiting factor for most Westerners is the language barrier. There are no translators in place in any schools or hospitals that I know of in Taiwan. Chang Gung doesn't have a system in place for foreign students to study in the hospitals on a short-term basis, but it may be possible to enroll in their university to take additional classes. It poses a bit of a hurdle for anyone short of perfect Chinese fluency, because keeping up with lectures, homework, and even enrollment and logistical issues requires very advanced Chinese skills. I don't have their numbers, but you should be able to find them on the web. The other school is in Taichung (taizhong) and is called the zhongguo yiyao xueyuan. Searching in Chinese is probably the only good way to get it to come up. I believe a similar issue with non-fluent speakers exists there. In general, mainland China is far better for short-term study. They have more programs created for profit and foreign education. There is a lot of CM in Taiwan, but it is less accessible by showing up with a wallet. Taiwan is a good option for students of language and is good for long-term tcm study. The mainland has a lot of programs with interpreters, but the quality control is totally lacking. Experiences vary a great deal. It is best to go there with a teacher you trust on a trip where they have connections. Hong Kong is an easy place to navigate for English speakers. I do not know what options exist there for TCM study, but there is a fair amount of Chinese medicine there, and a great deal of herbal distribution and folk medicine on the streets. I don't have the contact information for Dr. Li (zheng-yu?) in Taipei, and I have never met him. He is near the Taipower building, and I believe the people at a TCM bookstore across the street could introduce you. > > Are you currently enrolled in the program or are you doing additional studies? I do not study in a matriculated program, I have only heard about them. I study Chinese medical terminology with Nigel Wiseman and TCM with a Chang Gung doctor named Feng Ye (co-author of the Paradigm Shang Han Lun and Practical Dictionary). , Brian Hardy <mischievous00> wrote: > Thanks for the reply. Do you have the contact infomation for the schools. Also, regarding the doctor who teaches, what is his style of CM teaching and do you also have his contact information. > > I have a masters degree in TCM from SAMRA University in Los Angeles so there should not be a problem getting into a program. > > Are you currently enrolled in the program or are you doing additonal studies. > > Thanks again > > Brian > > smilinglotus <smilinglotus> wrote: > The two most prominent schools with CM in Taiwan are Chang Gung > University (near Taipei), and China Medical College (Taichung). I > believe that both schools have an established history of admitting > foreign students, though you would need to be fully matriculated to > do the entire program, or, at least in the case of Chang Gung, be > required to have a Master's in TCM abroad to take additional > elective classes. Classes are in Chinese. > > Taiwan has many hospitals and private clinics with CM. The ability > of foreigners to study in them is primarily limited to personal > connections (guanxi) and language. > > There is a doctor in Taipei who loves foreigners and is famous for > taking on many foreigners to give them clinical instruction, but his > style of CM is far from mainstream. > > Good luck and keep in touch if you come. > > Eric Brand > > , " mischievous00 " > <mischievous00> wrote: > > I am interested in going to Taiwan study TCM and Acupuncture for 1- > 2 > > months. > > > > Does anyone have any contacts for schools or hospitals in Taiwan > > > > Thanks > > > > Brian > > > > PS...Also, any contacts for shanghai, China. I understand they > still > > teach the classics > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Sorry, the name of the school in Taichung should be zhongguo zhongyiyao xueyuan (China Medical College). I have heard that they have taken Austrailian students in the past, but I don't know if they were ABC (Aussie Born Chinese) or not. , " smilinglotus " <smilinglotus> wrote: > Brian Hardy <mischievous00> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. Do you have the contact infomation for the > schools. Also, regarding the doctor who teaches, what is his style > of CM teaching and do you also have his contact information. > > > > I have a masters degree in TCM from SAMRA University in Los > Angeles so there should not be a problem getting into a program. > > Brian, > > Getting into a matriculated program is probably not difficult, the > more limiting factor for most Westerners is the language barrier. > There are no translators in place in any schools or hospitals that I > know of in Taiwan. > > Chang Gung doesn't have a system in place for foreign students to > study in the hospitals on a short-term basis, but it may be possible > to enroll in their university to take additional classes. It poses > a bit of a hurdle for anyone short of perfect Chinese fluency, > because keeping up with lectures, homework, and even enrollment and > logistical issues requires very advanced Chinese skills. > > I don't have their numbers, but you should be able to find them on > the web. The other school is in Taichung (taizhong) and is called > the zhongguo yiyao xueyuan. Searching in Chinese is probably the > only good way to get it to come up. I believe a similar issue with > non-fluent speakers exists there. > > In general, mainland China is far better for short-term study. They > have more programs created for profit and foreign education. There > is a lot of CM in Taiwan, but it is less accessible by showing up > with a wallet. Taiwan is a good option for students of language and > is good for long-term tcm study. The mainland has a lot of programs > with interpreters, but the quality control is totally lacking. > Experiences vary a great deal. It is best to go there with a > teacher you trust on a trip where they have connections. > > Hong Kong is an easy place to navigate for English speakers. I do > not know what options exist there for TCM study, but there is a fair > amount of Chinese medicine there, and a great deal of herbal > distribution and folk medicine on the streets. > > I don't have the contact information for Dr. Li (zheng-yu?) in > Taipei, and I have never met him. He is near the Taipower building, > and I believe the people at a TCM bookstore across the street could > introduce you. > > > > > Are you currently enrolled in the program or are you doing > additional studies? > > > > > > > > , Brian Hardy > <mischievous00> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. Do you have the contact infomation for the > schools. Also, regarding the doctor who teaches, what is his style > of CM teaching and do you also have his contact information. > > > > I have a masters degree in TCM from SAMRA University in Los > Angeles so there should not be a problem getting into a program. > > > > Are you currently enrolled in the program or are you doing > additonal studies. > > > > Thanks again > > > > Brian > > > > smilinglotus <smilinglotus> wrote: > > The two most prominent schools with CM in Taiwan are Chang Gung > > University (near Taipei), and China Medical College (Taichung). I > > believe that both schools have an established history of admitting > > foreign students, though you would need to be fully matriculated > to > > do the entire program, or, at least in the case of Chang Gung, be > > required to have a Master's in TCM abroad to take additional > > elective classes. Classes are in Chinese. > > > > Taiwan has many hospitals and private clinics with CM. The > ability > > of foreigners to study in them is primarily limited to personal > > connections (guanxi) and language. > > > > There is a doctor in Taipei who loves foreigners and is famous for > > taking on many foreigners to give them clinical instruction, but > his > > style of CM is far from mainstream. > > > > Good luck and keep in touch if you come. > > > > Eric Brand > > > > , " mischievous00 " > > <mischievous00> wrote: > > > I am interested in going to Taiwan study TCM and Acupuncture for > 1- > > 2 > > > months. > > > > > > Does anyone have any contacts for schools or hospitals in Taiwan > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > PS...Also, any contacts for shanghai, China. I understand they > > still > > > teach the classics > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, > including board approved continuing education classes, an annual > conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hi! Brian, Are you in Taiwan now? I am going back to Taiwan in mid December. I already set up an appointment with KPC company for a tour. Do you have any contact with other herbal company in Taiwan? Ta-Ya Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc Johns Hopkins Community Physicians Wyman Park Internal Medicine Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent by e-mail may not remain confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 , Ta-Ya Lee <tlee19@j...> wrote: > Hi! Brian, > Are you in Taiwan now? > I am going back to Taiwan in mid December. > I already set up an appointment with KPC company for a tour. > Do you have any contact with other herbal company in Taiwan? > Ta-Ya Hello Ta-Ya, There are also several other factories for TCM medicinals in Taiwan. One is Qualiherb. Another is Sun-Ten. I don't think their Chinese names will display correctly on the list, but I can email you the characters off list, if you need them. Eric > Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc > Johns Hopkins Community Physicians > Wyman Park Internal Medicine > Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 > > WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent > by e-mail may not remain confidential. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Hi! Eric, Can you e-mail me directly? If you have their phone numbers either in Taiwan or USA, please let me know also. Thanks for your help. Ta-Ya tlee19 Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc Johns Hopkins Community Physicians Wyman Park Internal Medicine Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent by e-mail may not remain confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Hi Ta-Ya and Eric I am not yet in Taiwan. I would like to furthur my studies over there and tour the different herbal companies. Do either of you have any contacts for hospitals to study in or the companies contact information. I know in the past the companies sponsored a tour over there. I have heard that if you do not speak chinese that Taiwan is not the place to go for advanced studies in the hospitals, do you know of anyone over there that is involved in the hospitals or individual doctors that would be interested in teaching there skills of acupuncture. Perhaps I can give you a call directly Ta-Ya since your number is displayed, is that ok and perhaps I could also give Eric a call if you don't mind either Eric I would appreciate any information that you could share with me. I have narrowed down where I would like to go for training, either Taiwan, Nanjing, Hangzhou or Shanghai Thanks Brian Ta-Ya Lee <tlee19 wrote: Hi! Eric, Can you e-mail me directly? If you have their phone numbers either in Taiwan or USA, please let me know also. Thanks for your help. Ta-Ya tlee19 Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc Johns Hopkins Community Physicians Wyman Park Internal Medicine Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent by e-mail may not remain confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Hi! Brian and Eric, I already set up to observe an OMD acupuncture practice in Kaohsiung at this 12/04 trip. I used to work in Chang Gung Memorial hospitals in LinKo and Kaohsiung. Maybe there will be opportunity to observe OMD practice over those hospitals. My parents are still in Taiwan. Thus, I have been asking them to get in touch with some friends who practice . The best way to reach me is through this e-mail list. I have full western medicine primary care practice and acupuncture practice in the Hopkins Internal Medicine clinic. It's going to be hard to reach me through my secretary. Ta-Ya Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc Johns Hopkins Community Physicians Wyman Park Internal Medicine Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent by e-mail may not remain confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hello Ta-Ya and Brian, Ta-Ya, I would like to email you the names of the other factories, but I cannot see your entire email address, it is cut off midway on these emails. Chang Gung has now opened a new hospital in Linkou, which is huge and pretty high-tech. So they have two hospitals in Linkou and one in Taipei, all of which have TCM (I know the old one in Linkou and the Taipei one both have TCM). Because you are a doctor, speak Chinese, and have guanxi with Chang Gung, I think it would be easy for you to go there to observe. Brian might have a harder time, because they are not used to dealing with foreigners and don't have anything set up with interpreters, visiting students, etc. The main thing necessary is a relationship with the school, the hospital, or individual doctors. Interns are a slight nuisance in the best of circumstances; interns who need a translator and ask questions are a bit too much trouble for most doctors to want to take on. They are typically seeing over 100 patients every four hours, so being unobtrusive is key. my number is (886) 0916-048-209. Feel free to call or email. Eric , Ta-Ya Lee <tlee19@j...> wrote: > Hi! Brian and Eric, > I already set up to observe an OMD acupuncture practice in Kaohsiung at > this 12/04 trip. > I used to work in Chang Gung Memorial hospitals in LinKo and > Kaohsiung. > Maybe there will be opportunity to observe OMD practice over those > hospitals. > My parents are still in Taiwan. Thus, I have been asking them to get > in touch with some friends who practice . > The best way to reach me is through this e-mail list. > I have full western medicine primary care practice and acupuncture > practice in the Hopkins Internal Medicine clinic. > It's going to be hard to reach me through my secretary. > Ta-Ya > > Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc > Johns Hopkins Community Physicians > Wyman Park Internal Medicine > Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 > > WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent > by e-mail may not remain confidential. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Sorry, I have a new phone number: 886-0930-528-519. Email is always best: baixiaolong Sometimes emails disappear on CHA for some reason. It should read as at . But I won't be here in December, I will be in the US. Sorry. Eric , Ta-Ya Lee <tlee19@j...> wrote: > > Hi! Eric, > I was in Taiwan last week due to my grandmom pass away. > I tried to call you but your cell phone has been disconnected. > Do you have another phone number I can reach you in December? > I will be in Taiwan again in December again and would like to make > appointments with some herbal companies or practitioners. > Thanks for your help. > Sincerely, > Ta-Ya Lee > > Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc > Johns Hopkins Community Physicians > Wyman Park Internal Medicine > Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 > > WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent > by e-mail may not remain confidential. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Hi! Eric, I was in Taiwan last week due to my grandmom pass away. I tried to call you but your cell phone has been disconnected. Do you have another phone number I can reach you in December? I will be in Taiwan again in December again and would like to make appointments with some herbal companies or practitioners. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Ta-Ya Lee Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc Johns Hopkins Community Physicians Wyman Park Internal Medicine Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent by e-mail may not remain confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Some of my students and former students want to go to China to study for a few months. Although I know how the PRC system works I don't know if it is possible to do the same in Taiwan. Does anyone have an idea? thanks, doug eisenstark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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