Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Hi Everett, A few thoughts crossed my mind as I read your post: 1. Does she want to be in the job she has? Is there personality stress at her work? ---- Sometimes the only way out of a bad work situation is to have injury.... just wondering ... this will go more to the root of the problem, say it was a SJ channel, well then there maybe a PC protective issue going on. We are complex beings. 2. Which channel is involved? Treat the polar opposite and opposite side of the body, - consider source, luo or cleft. For instance if it was right SI channel treat left LV channel. The correct point and technique will reduce pain levels instantly. So check that she can tell how bad it is before you start treatment of LV point. 3. Peri menopausal may mean that she is actually having some Kid yang /adrenal exhaustion and this may also be part of a root treatment. 4. Combine intradermals in reactive ear points (same side of body) with intradermals at ashi points on the shoulder / arm. This is Japanese style so if not familiar check a reference like Birch - Japanese clinical acupuncture for guidance on techniques and required equipment. You can also combine with hand points. Very good to use ear, body and Korean hand points for stubborn pain problems, along with treating the root. Hope these thoughts serve to inspiration! Best wishes, Everett Churchill [pinevillage] Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:59 AM Chinese Medicine Nasty pain Hello all, I've been treating a patient with some severe shoulder pain following an injury sixteen months ago that involved some muscle tear when trying to lift a propane tank that she thought was empty (ouch!) When it's not bothering her it is weak and tends to be a little achey; when it's flared up, she experiences moderate to high degrees of pain locally (right posterior shoulder girdle mainly, but with some occurences of equally distressing discomfort in the anterior aspect as well) as well as strong referral down the arm and sometimes up the neck. Heat and rest improves the symptoms. We've had nominal success with acupuncture treating the ah shih/trigger points... once she was pain-free after the fourth visit, but then used it more at work (a small town hardware store) which only served to flare it up again. Three weeks later, she feel at work and stopped her fall with the right (affected) arm, which only worsened thing also. She's a very petite gal, 45 yo, and apparently (according to her MD) beginning the perimenopausal stage. She smokes half a pack daily, drinks about 2 pots of coffee by throughout the day (!!!); has occasional night sweats and infrequent " confusing " dreams; feels warm most of the time; feels dizzy when stressed and run down; has always had a little trouble with poor hearing. Her pulse tends to be pretty wiry, her tongue has a thick sl. yellow coat with a bit oh greasiness. One of my professors has suggested bleeding point along the infrascapular region with cupping and suggested giving her Long Dan Xie Gan Wan for a week or so before trying to treat her again. Normally, I don't have any trouble with this type of syndrome at all, but this case seems to be more involved than just the same old purely (or so it seems) mechanistic involvement of structure and soft tissue that I usually see. This seems to be her last resort, as there is apparently no problem with abnormal tissue in either the bone, muscle, or connective tissue, and so her MDs have nothing for which to suggest surgery. Between that and, yes I'll admit it, a little bit of my ego being involved here, I really need to help her. Any suggestions? -Everett Churchill http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Hello all, I've been treating a patient with some severe shoulder pain following an injury sixteen months ago that involved some muscle tear when trying to lift a propane tank that she thought was empty (ouch!) When it's not bothering her it is weak and tends to be a little achey; when it's flared up, she experiences moderate to high degrees of pain locally (right posterior shoulder girdle mainly, but with some occurences of equally distressing discomfort in the anterior aspect as well) as well as strong referral down the arm and sometimes up the neck. Heat and rest improves the symptoms. We've had nominal success with acupuncture treating the ah shih/trigger points... once she was pain-free after the fourth visit, but then used it more at work (a small town hardware store) which only served to flare it up again. Three weeks later, she feel at work and stopped her fall with the right (affected) arm, which only worsened thing also. She's a very petite gal, 45 yo, and apparently (according to her MD) beginning the perimenopausal stage. She smokes half a pack daily, drinks about 2 pots of coffee by throughout the day (!!!); has occasional night sweats and infrequent " confusing " dreams; feels warm most of the time; feels dizzy when stressed and run down; has always had a little trouble with poor hearing. Her pulse tends to be pretty wiry, her tongue has a thick sl. yellow coat with a bit oh greasiness. One of my professors has suggested bleeding point along the infrascapular region with cupping and suggested giving her Long Dan Xie Gan Wan for a week or so before trying to treat her again. Normally, I don't have any trouble with this type of syndrome at all, but this case seems to be more involved than just the same old purely (or so it seems) mechanistic involvement of structure and soft tissue that I usually see. This seems to be her last resort, as there is apparently no problem with abnormal tissue in either the bone, muscle, or connective tissue, and so her MDs have nothing for which to suggest surgery. Between that and, yes I'll admit it, a little bit of my ego being involved here, I really need to help her. Any suggestions? -Everett Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 ------ Everett Churchill, Try interdermal needles placed on the painful spots, can be left on up to 5 days or longer if your patient doesn't sweat mcuh or work in a hot place. If all else fails, magnets, north pole to the skin, 2650 gauss or higher, taped on the painful spots, wear for several days, change tape and location to keep the skin from becoming irritated. Patient can do that at home. Will work while you treat the patient's underlying constitution. David Tarlo, L.Ac., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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