Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 The pateint largely shows tb symptoms. Due to the large tmie lapse, the tb respiratory symptoms are not there. Since he is yang due to irritable bowel, this could be causing the yin def (Li / Lu transfer), being susceptible to flu, colds due to the dry respiratory area. Not diabetic either. Also has sprue syndrome symptoms of emaciation despite eating well. I believe he's also been overdosed with traditional medicines, due to lack of adequate care those days. --\ ---------------------- mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:When the person is losing the battle with an illness is it not important to switch treatment strategy from one of elimination to supplimentation or at the very least both? I ask this not to upset anyone but find out how others see this and compare this to what is taught in our programs with what I have learned since. Thanks Mike W. Bowser, L Ac >Steve Segal <stevsgl >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine > pathogen >Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:44:50 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >A adequate robust fleshy person is converted into emaciated yin deficient. >This maybe due to external pathogen embedded in the person since several >years. The symptoms are similar to sprue syndrome but could be tb. > > > >I had correspondence with geo, but he seems to have stopped now. > > > >Anybody please inform. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Steve, Could you please be more specific about your contention that this person is yang? I fail to see such evidence based upon a western medical diagnosis of IBS alone. The dialogue on this case has brought to mind the importance for me that many more opinions exist and that I would like further clarity. Thanks Mike W. Bowser, L Ac >Steve Segal <stevsgl >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine > overdose >Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:41:48 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >The pateint largely shows tb symptoms. Due to the large tmie lapse, the tb >respiratory symptoms are not there. > >Since he is yang due to irritable bowel, this could be causing the yin def >(Li / Lu transfer), being susceptible to flu, colds due to the dry >respiratory area. > >Not diabetic either. > >Also has sprue syndrome symptoms of emaciation despite eating well. > >I believe he's also been overdosed with traditional medicines, due to lack >of adequate care those days. > >-\ ----------------------- > >mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:When the person is losing the >battle with an illness is it not important to >switch treatment strategy from one of elimination to supplimentation or at >the very least both? I ask this not to upset anyone but find out how >others >see this and compare this to what is taught in our programs with what I >have >learned since. Thanks >Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > >Steve Segal <stevsgl > >Chinese Medicine > >Chinese Medicine > > pathogen > >Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:44:50 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > >A adequate robust fleshy person is converted into emaciated yin >deficient. > >This maybe due to external pathogen embedded in the person since several > >years. The symptoms are similar to sprue syndrome but could be tb. > > > > > > > >I had correspondence with geo, but he seems to have stopped now. > > > > > > > >Anybody please inform. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 He usually exhibits Excess Heat symptoms. mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:Steve, Could you please be more specific about your contention that this person is yang? I fail to see such evidence based upon a western medical diagnosis of IBS alone. The dialogue on this case has brought to mind the importance for me that many more opinions exist and that I would like further clarity. Thanks Mike W. Bowser, L Ac >Steve Segal <stevsgl >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine > overdose >Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:41:48 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >The pateint largely shows tb symptoms. Due to the large tmie lapse, the tb >respiratory symptoms are not there. > >Since he is yang due to irritable bowel, this could be causing the yin def >(Li / Lu transfer), being susceptible to flu, colds due to the dry >respiratory area. > >Not diabetic either. > >Also has sprue syndrome symptoms of emaciation despite eating well. > >I believe he's also been overdosed with traditional medicines, due to lack >of adequate care those days. > >-\ ----------------------- > >mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:When the person is losing the >battle with an illness is it not important to >switch treatment strategy from one of elimination to supplimentation or at >the very least both? I ask this not to upset anyone but find out how >others >see this and compare this to what is taught in our programs with what I >have >learned since. Thanks >Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > >Steve Segal <stevsgl > >Chinese Medicine > >Chinese Medicine > > pathogen > >Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:44:50 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > >A adequate robust fleshy person is converted into emaciated yin >deficient. > >This maybe due to external pathogen embedded in the person since several > >years. The symptoms are similar to sprue syndrome but could be tb. > > > > > > > >I had correspondence with geo, but he seems to have stopped now. > > > > > > > >Anybody please inform. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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