Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 > " Holly Mash " <hollymash >alansultan >CC: hollymash >Hi from Bristol! >Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:01:55 +0000 > >Hi Phil and the TCM group, Hope you don`t mind my picking your brains, about an interesting case I have - its a `vet ` case ; an 11 year old Lurcher cross called Margot - the owners adopted >her about 4 years ago and she`d had quite a rough home before this where >she had been chained up a lot- >In chronological oreder of her problems - she was initially quite stiff on >her backlegs - but this got better. >She was also initially very neurotic - and the owner said that when her and >her husband had rows Margot would hate it and run away - also the owner >said that she could actually see the tension in Margots head when she was >stressed. >She is very lovable and likes routine. >She loves her food. >She has always drunk quite a lot. >She prefers to be outside (her owners are gardeners, so she is outside most >of the time) - and prefers the cool ( doesnt like the stuffy house), but >loves the sun. >Since they have had her she has had dry skin and pruritis. >She has also had `Dry eye`. >Her current problems began last summer when she began panting and wheezing >when at rest. Not on walks, and not when lying down/asleep - just when she >was at rest - and she would stop if patted/given attention. She panted more >when stressed - when at the vets. >this has gradually got worse and now she has v v bad panting - v loud, and >salivating and frothing ( white) from her nose - when in the consult with >me. The owner reports panting is worse in the evening.There is no coughing. >Another of her main problems is worsening stiffness in her shoulders and >her back/hindquarters -muscle loss here and generalised weakness. She fell >down a week ago - when going down a bank. >She has always had a very stiff jaw - and currently cannot open it more >than a third open. >she has a soft tissue mass in area of left submandibular lymph gland - and >she has her left eye slightly pushed out by it - so that her left eye is >very red . >She has also recently had ( and still has) a nasty ulcer under her tongue. >She has been slightly shivery in the mornings and the owners have started >to cover her in a hot towels so that she is less stiff on getting up ( they >think she fell over on her morning walk as she was so stiff) >i thinks thats most of her probs - ...popping out eye, stiff jaw, weak >back, panting ,lingual ulcer... > >She has had every kind of conventional test....all negative..... > >what do you make of it?? I`d be really interested to have your advice on >it! Thanks, > >Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Has Margot been tested for any of the tick diseases such as Tularemia or Erlichiosis? And what about exposure to toxins such as organophosphates? Holly Mash <hollymash wrote: > " Holly Mash " <hollymash >alansultan >CC: hollymash >Hi from Bristol! >Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:01:55 +0000 > >Hi Phil and the TCM group, Hope you don`t mind my picking your brains, about an interesting case I have - its a `vet ` case ; an 11 year old Lurcher cross called Margot - the owners adopted >her about 4 years ago and she`d had quite a rough home before this where >she had been chained up a lot- >In chronological oreder of her problems - she was initially quite stiff on >her backlegs - but this got better. >She was also initially very neurotic - and the owner said that when her and >her husband had rows Margot would hate it and run away - also the owner >said that she could actually see the tension in Margots head when she was >stressed. >She is very lovable and likes routine. >She loves her food. >She has always drunk quite a lot. >She prefers to be outside (her owners are gardeners, so she is outside most >of the time) - and prefers the cool ( doesnt like the stuffy house), but >loves the sun. >Since they have had her she has had dry skin and pruritis. >She has also had `Dry eye`. >Her current problems began last summer when she began panting and wheezing >when at rest. Not on walks, and not when lying down/asleep - just when she >was at rest - and she would stop if patted/given attention. She panted more >when stressed - when at the vets. >this has gradually got worse and now she has v v bad panting - v loud, and >salivating and frothing ( white) from her nose - when in the consult with >me. The owner reports panting is worse in the evening.There is no coughing. >Another of her main problems is worsening stiffness in her shoulders and >her back/hindquarters -muscle loss here and generalised weakness. She fell >down a week ago - when going down a bank. >She has always had a very stiff jaw - and currently cannot open it more >than a third open. >she has a soft tissue mass in area of left submandibular lymph gland - and >she has her left eye slightly pushed out by it - so that her left eye is >very red . >She has also recently had ( and still has) a nasty ulcer under her tongue. >She has been slightly shivery in the mornings and the owners have started >to cover her in a hot towels so that she is less stiff on getting up ( they >think she fell over on her morning walk as she was so stiff) >i thinks thats most of her probs - ...popping out eye, stiff jaw, weak >back, panting ,lingual ulcer... > >She has had every kind of conventional test....all negative..... > >what do you make of it?? I`d be really interested to have your advice on >it! Thanks, > >Holly > http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, click on this link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Oh, sorry I should have said - I`m in the UK and there isn`t much trouble from that sort of thing over here - I don`t think theres been any history of exposure to OP`s either - >kim blankenship <kuangguiyu >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine >Re: FW: Interesting case >Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:04:50 -0800 (PST) > >Has Margot been tested for any of the tick diseases such as Tularemia or >Erlichiosis? And what about exposure to toxins such as organophosphates? > >Holly Mash <hollymash wrote: > > > " Holly Mash " <hollymash > >alansultan > >CC: hollymash > >Hi from Bristol! > >Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:01:55 +0000 > > > >Hi Phil and the TCM group, >Hope you don`t mind my picking your brains, about an interesting case I >have >- > >its a `vet ` case ; >an 11 year old Lurcher cross called Margot - the owners adopted > >her about 4 years ago and she`d had quite a rough home before this where > >she had been chained up a lot- > >In chronological oreder of her problems - she was initially quite stiff >on > >her backlegs - but this got better. > >She was also initially very neurotic - and the owner said that when her >and > >her husband had rows Margot would hate it and run away - also the owner > >said that she could actually see the tension in Margots head when she was > >stressed. > >She is very lovable and likes routine. > >She loves her food. > >She has always drunk quite a lot. > >She prefers to be outside (her owners are gardeners, so she is outside >most > >of the time) - and prefers the cool ( doesnt like the stuffy house), but > >loves the sun. > >Since they have had her she has had dry skin and pruritis. > >She has also had `Dry eye`. > >Her current problems began last summer when she began panting and >wheezing > >when at rest. Not on walks, and not when lying down/asleep - just when >she > >was at rest - and she would stop if patted/given attention. She panted >more > >when stressed - when at the vets. > >this has gradually got worse and now she has v v bad panting - v loud, >and > >salivating and frothing ( white) from her nose - when in the consult with > >me. The owner reports panting is worse in the evening.There is no >coughing. > >Another of her main problems is worsening stiffness in her shoulders and > >her back/hindquarters -muscle loss here and generalised weakness. She >fell > >down a week ago - when going down a bank. > >She has always had a very stiff jaw - and currently cannot open it more > >than a third open. > >she has a soft tissue mass in area of left submandibular lymph gland - >and > >she has her left eye slightly pushed out by it - so that her left eye is > >very red . > >She has also recently had ( and still has) a nasty ulcer under her >tongue. > >She has been slightly shivery in the mornings and the owners have started > >to cover her in a hot towels so that she is less stiff on getting up ( >they > >think she fell over on her morning walk as she was so stiff) > >i thinks thats most of her probs - ...popping out eye, stiff jaw, weak > >back, panting ,lingual ulcer... > > > >She has had every kind of conventional test....all negative..... > > > >what do you make of it?? I`d be really interested to have your advice on > >it! Thanks, > > > >Holly > > > > > > > >http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > and adjust >accordingly. > >Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group >requires prior permission from the author. > >If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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