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A adequate robust fleshy person is converted into emaciated yin deficient. This

maybe due to external pathogen embedded in the person since several years. The

symptoms are similar to sprue syndrome but could be tb.

 

 

 

I had correspondence with geo, but he seems to have stopped now.

 

 

 

Anybody please inform.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

When the person is losing the battle with an illness is it not important to

switch treatment strategy from one of elimination to supplimentation or at

the very least both? I ask this not to upset anyone but find out how others

see this and compare this to what is taught in our programs with what I have

learned since. Thanks

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

>Steve Segal <stevsgl

>Chinese Medicine

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>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:44:50 -0800 (PST)

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>A adequate robust fleshy person is converted into emaciated yin deficient.

>This maybe due to external pathogen embedded in the person since several

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>I had correspondence with geo, but he seems to have stopped now.

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>Anybody please inform.

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[Guest guest]

Steve Segal wrote:

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> A adequate robust fleshy person is converted into emaciated yin deficient.

This maybe due to external pathogen embedded in the person since several years.

The symptoms are similar to sprue syndrome but could be tb.

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> I had correspondence with geo, but he seems to have stopped now.

Hi Steve!

 

Is the patient diabetic? Blurred vision, big thirst, big urination . . .

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

TB! Back in late 1960's in the backwaters of urban India they used to

call it, by a fatal

phonetical digression, Tee Pee, and a terrible word it was, and it used

to ravage and kill as

easily if we used the right label.

 

Targeted souls were lower middle class, a cute name for upper poor

class. Age bracket was

25 to 45 for those marked to die, and 55 + for survivors who ran a

chronic infection which

by and large discapacitated them from any active life.

 

For some reason men were more likely to get it, and in women, those

married and

multi para.

 

More urban the man, more likely the incidence, and more virulent the

course of the illness.

 

Weight loss to a 3rd of the norm; subdued temperament, and a ghastly

tendency to

smile, and the tell tale gaudy handkerchief to catch the odd splat of

blood coughed out

by a sudden cough.

 

Cough was always low grade, a tuff, tuff, with a pant, pant.

Occasionally when the bug had

managed to open a capillary in the lung field, and the blood had

extravasated and was now

acting like a foreign body in the trachea, and a violent cough reflex

had set, cough would

then be something you heard long before you got off the horse driven

carriage called a

tonga, I imagine they still run there; when you went for the house call.

 

This was the episode which could carry the man away, and he knew it, and

the sickly

wife with seven children knew it, and the old mother knew it, and you

knew it, and wished

to all your heathen Gods you didn't.

 

But you could not admit to that, and worked on anyway, with the whole

carnage

taking place in a slovenly hutment with a tin roof made of flattened oil

cans, and

a thatch for wall, and a cut open gunny sac for a door and all the

privacy you

would want, in a neighborhood of some 100 000 souls, situated on five acres

of very crowded land, with no road, no running water, no electric, no

phones,

no sewage, no drainage, and no hospital to within 5 mile as the crow flew.

 

Tee Pee!

 

For the TCM'ers: This was an advanced HT offending LU pattern, which

over a decade

or so had bounced back to repay HT by the same coin.

 

Even when the illness was LU Dry based with obvious Blood and Heat

signs, not to

speak of a Heated Damp sputum when SP gets into the cat, the body

temperature was

always likely to be 99 degrees or so, may be a clear 100 degree F.

 

The malar flush! The other day I completed an article on the Malar

Flush, it ought to hit

print by April, and darned if I had not forgotten that I had made

aquaintance with the original

version so long ago.

 

A malar flush is different animal on different skin. If we have an

Occidental with a shortfall

of melanin, it stands loud and clear. On an Oriental with a bit of brown

you look for it by the

waning light and at an angle.

 

If you ran into a Moghul breed with parentage tending to Genghis Khan,

or to Askandian,

which Alexandrian, which is Ptolemic; you dalt with a fine white skin of

the most flawless

sort, and the Flush almost cried out to be seen as what it what, a Mark

of Sudden

Endings!

 

Typiucal cough in the beginning was LU Yin Deficient, with trademark

spasms and

the tiny tell tale blood and wholly no sputuim.

 

Later this became either the Fire Cough with frank Blood, they bled a

lot and

were almost always anemic. Or it tended to the thick green sputum and a

rattle you

hear on any end of the hospital corridor. In the first case HT had done

a Fire on LU, in

thge second SP was walking in for all it was worth.

 

Oddly, if the latter scenario developed, outcomes were more happy

because this

was a Mother doing a number on the Son, which can be trying, but almost

never

fatal.

 

Tidal Fever! You sort of lived with it, there were sp many cases in your

flock.

See it once, its seen more than felt or measured, and you could prognose

to whithin

an inch of where the matter was heading.

 

More later if I can stomach it.

 

Dr. Holmes

CEUS on DVD

www.acu-free.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve Segal wrote:

 

> > A adequate robust fleshy person is converted into emaciated yin

> deficient. This maybe due to external pathogen embedded in the person

> since several years. The symptoms are similar to sprue syndrome but

> could be tb.

> >