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Pla-eeeze

 

These cases go way back and more often than not the practitioners were from

the category of the untrained such as the 100 hour week end educated.

 

The congentinal hole in the mediastinum was from a practitioner from one the

Scandinavian countries.

 

If we are going to speak about this THEN please post FACTS instead of

conjecture.

 

I wonder WHY the allopathic medical profession seem to find ways to frighten

duly trained acupuncturists?

 

Richard

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Two acupuncturists were sued for malpractice under allegations that somehow

they were responsible for causing a Pneumothorax in their clients.

 

More reports are surfacing around the world alleging needle fragments found

on a tomogram months after the acupuncture treatment, and an odd case of

a ruptured mediastinum because of a congenital hole in the underdeveloped

sternum.

 

To what extent are acupuncturists knowledgeable about these reports?

 

Are other professionals who practice acupuncture more cited than orthodox

acupuncturists?

 

How well informed are practitioners about the man with a tendency to

spontaneous Pneumothorax?

 

Am I paranoid, or are these legitimate concerns?

 

Please participate.

 

Dr. Holmes

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Hi Dr Holmes,

 

Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention.

 

I was warned of puncturing Jianjing perpendicular during my training. But we

were never told how to treat someone that has a pneumothorax. Only after

undertaking my First Aid with the Red Cross, and upon requesting the

information, was it made apparent. Perhaps you could add that to your

article.

 

Kind regards

 

Attilio D'Alberto

Doctor of (Beijing, China)

BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

07786198900

attiliodalberto

<http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com

 

 

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11 March 2005 18:40

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Re: acupuncturists sued

 

 

Two acupuncturists were sued for malpractice under allegations that somehow

they were responsible for causing a Pneumothorax in their clients.

 

More reports are surfacing around the world alleging needle fragments found

on a tomogram months after the acupuncture treatment, and an odd case of

a ruptured mediastinum because of a congenital hole in the underdeveloped

sternum.

 

To what extent are acupuncturists knowledgeable about these reports?

 

Are other professionals who practice acupuncture more cited than orthodox

acupuncturists?

 

How well informed are practitioners about the man with a tendency to

spontaneous Pneumothorax?

 

Am I paranoid, or are these legitimate concerns?

 

Please participate.

 

Dr. Holmes

www.acu-free.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It is now time that we start publically declaring that 100 hour MD/DC/ND/PT

are undertrained. We have tippy-toed around this by making general

statements about lack of training for years and the public still does not

get it. The public thinks that these practitioners must be qualified and

therefore good enough to help them. We should be looking at reversing

legislation that allows for more than one state board to regulate the same

technique (profession) under two different boards with different hourly

regulations. It simply goes against the ideas about state board licensure

and sets up an unfair economic situation and brings up the issue of safe

practice. I have long felt that we need to have someone compiling these

accidents and keep track of licensure and level of education so that we can

show that they need more training as they are risking patients lives. We

need to overcome our individual state differrences and come together on this

one as it is a very dangerous trend.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

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>Pla-eeeze

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>These cases go way back and more often than not the practitioners were

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>the category of the untrained such as the 100 hour week end educated.

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>The congentinal hole in the mediastinum was from a practitioner from one

>the

>Scandinavian countries.

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>If we are going to speak about this THEN please post FACTS instead of

>conjecture.

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>I wonder WHY the allopathic medical profession seem to find ways to

>frighten

>duly trained acupuncturists?

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>Richard

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We are not second class physicians. We are equal in every aspect.

 

I know many MDs who are poorly trained.

 

If we do not teach our practitioners that we are thoroughly trained primary

care physicians.

 

Then we will never be more than a technicians.

 

Most acupuncturist act like technicians.

 

Advanced OM Education is available to DOMs who seek it.

 

You can only advance scopes of practice after we/you are trained in new

procedures not before.

 

 

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> the category of the untrained such as the 100 hour week end educated.

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> The congentinal hole in the mediastinum was from a practitioner from one

> the

> Scandinavian countries.

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> If we are going to speak about this THEN please post FACTS instead of

> conjecture.

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> I wonder WHY the allopathic medical profession seem to find ways to

> frighten

> duly trained acupuncturists?

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> Richard

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One of the great issues that our profession has a problem with is somantics.

When we refer to under-trained we usually mean those nasty MD/DC/ND/PT

with 100 hour certificates but forget that some of our brethren might also

apply to this heading. For example, those who may have at one time

graduated from an unaccredited program. Some within our profession might

also add to this listing graduates from acupuncture only or programs lacking

in adequate western sciences. This makes it very difficult to know what we

mean when we say look for a practitioner with adequate training. If we are

not aware of this differentiation how can we expect the patient to be? This

is an important reason why we need to look at future standardization. I

feel that the CA model of education allows us to remain closer to our Asian

counterparts and also to retain primarycare status. Both of these are

important for our future.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

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>We are not second class physicians. We are equal in every aspect.

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>I know many MDs who are poorly trained.

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>If we do not teach our practitioners that we are thoroughly trained primary

>care physicians.

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>Then we will never be more than a technicians.

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>Most acupuncturist act like technicians.

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>Advanced OM Education is available to DOMs who seek it.

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>You can only advance scopes of practice after we/you are trained in new

>procedures not before.

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Some newer citations. Sorry for the sloppy cut 'n paste.

 

1. Acupuncture associated Pneumothorax

*K Saifeldeen and M Evans ** *

Department of Accident and Emergency, Princess of Wales Hospital,

Bridgend, South Wales, UK

found at: http://emj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/extract/21/3/398

 

2. Case report of tension *pneumothorax* related to *acupuncture*

<http://www.medical-acupuncture.co.uk/journal/2004-1/040.shtml>

*...* Case report: of tension *pneumothorax* related to *acupuncture*

Elmar Peuker. Summary. *...*

Key Words. Complication, *acupuncture*, *pneumothorax*, negligence.

Author. *...*

www.medical-*acupuncture*.co.uk/journal/2004-1/040.shtml - 9k - Cached

<http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:6bFAzLKZ7FYJ:www.medical-acupuncture.co.uk\

/journal/2004-1/040.shtml+acupuncture+pneumothorax & hl=en & client=firefox-a>

- Similar pages

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fficial_s & q=related:www.medical-acupuncture.co.uk/journal/2004-1/040.shtml>

 

*3. [PDF]* Hepatic resection.PM

<http://www.hkam.org.hk/publications/hkmj/article_pdfs/hkm0206p225b.pdf>

File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML

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-a>

*...* In a German review, de Groot 1 pointed out that at least 23 cases

of post-*acupuncture*

*pneumothorax* had been reported, two of them with fatal outcome. *...*

www.hkam.org.hk/publications/ hkmj/article_pdfs/hkm0206p225b.pdf - Mar

11, 2005 - Similar pages

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pdf>

An autopsy case of bilateral tension

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=\

14568778 & dopt=Abstract>

 

4. *pneumothorax* after *...*

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=\

14568778 & dopt=Abstract>

Click here to read An autopsy case of bilateral tension *pneumothorax* after

*acupuncture*. Iwadate K, Ito H, Katsumura S, Matsuyama *...*

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve &

db=PubMed & list_uids=14568778 & dopt=Abstract - Similar pages

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%3DPubMed%26list_uids%3D14568778%26dopt%3DAbstract>

 

*/5./**/http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html\

Under-reporting/*

*/ /**/ /* " ....Acupuncture is a surgical procedure and thus,

clearly not entirely safe. It is, nonetheless, commonly considered to be

relatively safe compared with Western medications and procedures.10

<http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html#ad10>,\

11

<http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html#ad11>

Acupuncture literature supports this notion; malpractice premiums are

consistent with relatively low risk.12

<http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html#ad12>

The majority of state legislatures have permitted non-physician health

care professionals to be licensed as acupuncturists.13

<http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html#ad13>

However, some believe that underreporting of adverse events is rampant,

even in hospital settings.14

<http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html#ad14>

Perhaps under-reporting of pneumothorax following acupuncture is an example.

The medical literature suggests that the incidence of pneumothorax

is rare and/or is only associated with incompetency.4

<http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html#ad4>,5

<http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html#ad5>,1\

5

<http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/Vol11_2/adverse.html#ad15>

Yet there have been at least 2 cases in the author's practice of 15

years, and reports of at least 3 other cases in patients or their

immediate family members. This reflects higher incidences than reported

in the literature, but does not necessarily reflect incompetency. In the

aforementioned 2 cases, the patients had chronic serious lung disease,

and their tissues were compromised by prolonged cortisone use. In

addition, electrical acupuncture was used. "

 

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Here is a compiled list of acu related accidents by

Palle Rosted MD

Consultant Medical Acupuncturist

Clinical Lecturer Sheffield University

Weston Park Hospital

Sheffield S10 2SJ (UK)

see it at: http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/adverse2.html

 

Granted much of it older reportage but reportage it is. Am in

correspondence with him for later

work. Sheffield Univ is a respected center of academic learning and nay

work coming from it cannot be

relegated to under the carpet.

 

I am quoting whole sale all the citations reported there. If one wanted

to one could follow up

individual ones.

 

All of these cannot be biased and geared to beleaguer acupuncturists.

Note 'pneumothorax' and

'cardiac tamponate' recurring again and again.

 

If three of these are factual one needs to look at the issue of acu

related accidents again.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

www.acu-free.com

 

Following text is posted courtesy of Dr Palle Rosted MD

Source and more reading at:

http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/adverse2.html

 

(1) Halvorsen T.B, Anda S.S, Naess A.B, Levang O.W. Fatal cardiac

tamponade after acupuncture through congenital sternal foramen The

Lancet 1995; 345: 1175

 

(2) Dwivedi S.K, Gupta L.C, Narain V.S. Self inserted needle in heart -

localization by cross-sectional echocardiography European Heart Journal

1991; 12: 286-7

 

(3) Hasegawa J, Noguchi N, Sasaki S. Delayed cardiac tamponade and

hemothorax induced by an acupuncture needle Cardiology 1991; 78(1): 58-63

 

(4) Schiff A.F. A fatality due to acupuncture Medical Times 1965; 6: 630-1

 

(5) Jefferys D.B, Smith S, Brennand-Ropar D.A, Curry P.V.L. Acupuncture

needles as a cause of bacterial endocarditis BMJ 1983; 287: 326-7

 

(6) Scheel O, Sundsfjord A, Lunde P, Andersen B.M. Endocarditis after

acupuncture and injection treatment JAMA 1992; 267: 56

 

(7) Lee R.J.E, McIlwain J.C. Subacute bacterial endocarditis following

ear acupuncture International Journal of cardiology 1985; 7: 62-3

 

(8) Spelman D.W, Weinmann A, Spicer W.J. Endocarditis following skin

procedures Journal of infection 1993; 26: 185-9

 

(9) Fujiwara H, Taniguchi K, Takeuchi J, Ikexono E. The influence of low

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(10) Apaloo F. An acupuncture complication Acupunct Med 1996; 14(1):41

 

(11) Krogh-Sørensen K, Bondevik H Komplikasjoner ved

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(114): 1561

 

(12) Wright R.S, Kupperman J.L, Liebhaber M.I. Bilateral tension

pneumothorax after acupuncture West J Med 1991; 154(1): 102-3

 

(13) Mazal D.A, King T, Harvey J, Cohen J. Bilateral pneumothorax after

acupuncture Nerw England Journal of Medicine 1980; 302(24):1365-6

 

(14) Bodner G, Topilsky M, Greif J. Pneumothorax as a complication of

acupuncture in the treatment of bronchial asthma Annals of Allergy1983;

51: 401-2

 

(15) Gray R, Maharajh G,S, Hyland R. Pneumothorax resulting from

acupuncture Canadian Ass of radiologists Journal 1991; 42(2): 139-40

 

(16) Valenta L.J, Hengesh J.W. Pneumothorax caused by acupuncture The

lancet 1980; 9: 322

 

(17) Schneider L.B, Salberg M.R. Bilateral pneumothorax following

acupuncture Annals of Emergency Medicine 1984; 13: 643

 

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40: 69-70

 

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Medical Journal 1975; 1: 96

 

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JAMA 1980; 243(14): 1423

 

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163-8

 

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(56) Dominguez A, Milicua J.M, Larraona J.L, Barcena R, Rodriguez C.M.F,

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(57) Vitttecoq D, Mettetal J.F, Rouzioux C, Bach J.F. Acute HIV

infection after acupuncture treatments New England J Medicine 1989;

320(4): 250-1

 

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53(619): 285-6

 

(59) Jones R.O, Cross M.G. Suspected chronic osteomyelitis secondary to

acupuncture treatment J Am Podiatry Ass 1980; 70(3): 149-51

 

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Acup Med 1988; 5(1): 25-7

 

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acupuncture Arch Otolaryngol 1985; 111: 770-1

 

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1986; 100; 1177-9

 

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(66) Allison G, Kravitz E. Auricular chondritis secondary to acupuncture

New England Journal of medicine 1975; 293: 780

 

(67) Johansen M, Nielsen K.O. Perichondritis auriculae forårsaget af

akupunkturbehandling (In Danish) Ugeskr Læger 1990: 152(3): 172

 

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complication of acupuncture Arch Otolaryngol 1976; 102: 572-3

 

(69) Trautermann H.G, Trautermann H. Perichondritis der Ohrmuschel nach

Akupunktur (In German) HNO 1981; 29: 312-3

 

(70) Hadden W.A, Swanson A.J.G. Spinal infection caused by acupuncture

mimicking a prolapsed intervertebral disc The Journal of Bone and Joint

Surgery 1982; 64-A(4): 624-6

 

(71) Lapeer G.L, Monga T.N. Pains secondary to acupuncture therapy The

Journal of Craniomandibular practice 1988; 6(2): 188-90

 

(72) Keane J.R, Ahmadi J, Gruen P. Spinal epidural hematoma with

subarachnoid hemorrhage caused by acupuncture AJNR 1993; 14: 365-6

 

(73) Sato M, Yamana K, Ezima. et al. A case of transverse myelopathy

caused by acupuncture (In Japanese) Clin Neurol 1991; 31(7): 717-9

 

(74) Ilham A, Alioglu Z, Adanir M, Ôzmenoglu M. Transverse myelopathy

after acupuncture therapy: A case report Acupuncture &

Electro-Therapeutics Res Int J 1995; 20: 191-4

 

(75) Kondo A, Koyama T, Ishikawa J, Yamasaki T. Injury to the spinal

cord produced by acupuncture needle Surg Neurol 1979;11: 155-6

 

(76) Murata K, Nishio A, Nishikawa M, Ohinata Y, Sakaguchi M, Nishimura

S. Subaracnoid hemorrhage and spinal root injury caused by acupuncture

needle Neurol Med Chir (Tokyo) 1990; 30: 956-9

 

(77) Isu T, Iwsaki Y, Sasaki H, Abe H. Spinal cord and root injuries due

to glass fragments and acupuncture needles Surg Neurol 1985; 23: 255-60

 

(78) Kida Y, Naritomi H, Sawada T, Kuriyama Y, Ogawa M, Miyamoto S.

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Following is courtesy of Positive Health

Integrated Medicine for the 21st Century

http://www.positivehealth.com/research.asp?i=645

 

These are results of a work geared to identify untoward reactions to

treatment. It

makes interesting reading:

 

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Results

574 of the acupuncturists (31%) responded to the survey, reporting on

adverse events and transient reactions associated with a total of 34,407

treatments . No serious adverse events were reported. There were reports

of 43 significant 'minor' adverse events (rate 1.3 per 1000 treatments),

which included: severe nausea and fainting (12), unexpected, severe and

prolonged exacerbation of symptoms (7), prolonged and unacceptable pain

and bruising (5) and psychological/emotional reactions (4). Three events

could have been avoided: in two patients, acupuncture needles were left

in by mistake; one patients suffered moxa burns to the skin due to

practitioner error. Reports of local reactions included mild bruising

(1.7%), pain (1.2%) and bleeding (0.4%) . 10,920 mild transient

reactions were recorded as occurring during 5136 treatments, accounting

for 15% of all adverse events reported. Mild transient reactions most

commonly reported after treatment were 'feeling relaxed' (11.9%) and

'feeling energized' (6.6%). After approximately 3% of treatments,

patients reported an exacerbation of their symptoms.

 

conclusions

 

This survey of more than 34,000 acupuncture treatments resulted in no

reports of serious adverse events . The reported frequency of

significant 'minor' adverse events was just over 0.1%. Local reactions

were reported after less than 4% of treatments. Mild transient

reactions, the most common of which were 'feeling relaxed' and 'feeling

energized', occurred after 15% of treatments. Worsening of patients'

original symptoms was reported after about 3% of treatments. The authors

of this report point out that, compared with adverse events reported due

to medication routinely prescribed in primary care, these results

indicate acupuncture to be a relatively safe treatment modality .

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Point of the thread is:

 

1. Are there untoward reactions reported out there which can be traced

to acupuncture

professionals as opposed to other health professionals?

 

2. If so what classification these fall into?

 

3. What are the sequelae in terms of suing etc?

 

4. Were these settled out of court and what cost?

 

5. What happened to the practitioner?

 

6. How well geared is the profession in terms of supporting one of their

own?

 

7. More of my concern: how well educated are the we in understanding the

clinical

nature of what could go wrong?

 

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I agree. But I believe " we " need a professional publicity

agent.

We should stand with the public against poorly trained or

non-trained persons who {mis} use acupuncture and herbal

treatments in the name of acupuncture. As well as

phyto-pharmacicals who pass off herbal-drugs as safe and

natural. They are not.

 

Examples like these can highlight and serve to educate the

population as to what qualifies one as an

acupuncturist/herbalist.

 

Another looming example is Ginseng in liquid form or Red

Yeasts Rice - Statin. If we as a profession do not stand up

and announce that the " standardized capsules " that portray

themselves as safe natural herbal supplements - Red Yeasts

Rice ARE actually standardized Statin drugs - we'll find

ourselves in the same spot as ma huang. The FDA, in safe

guarding the public will ban the FOOD Red Yeasts Rice (as in

herbal ma huang) and not the DRUG (Statin) in capsule form

(as they didn't ephedrine).

 

Organizations that collect money to hire political lobbyists

are digging a well after one is thirsty.

Lobbyists fuel controversy. They are the bread and butter of

politicians. Nor does any law or regulation foster public

faith. If all that was needed was an enactment of law -

acupuncture would never be.

One 20 minute segment on Ohprah, or Dr Phil will do more

good than a tent full of lobbyists and their allies.

 

that's my two cents,

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:39:19 +0000

" mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1

Re: acupuncturists sued

 

It is now time that we start publically declaring that 100

hour MD/DC/ND/PT

are undertrained. We have tippy-toed around this by making

general

statements about lack of training for years and the public

still does not

get it. The public thinks that these practitioners must be

qualified and

therefore good enough to help them. We should be looking at

reversing

legislation that allows for more than one state board to

regulate the same

technique (profession) under two different boards with

different hourly

regulations. It simply goes against the ideas about state

board licensure

and sets up an unfair economic situation and brings up the

issue of safe

practice. I have long felt that we need to have someone

compiling these

accidents and keep track of licensure and level of education

so that we can

show that they need more training as they are risking

patients lives. We

need to overcome our individual state differrences and come

together on this

one as it is a very dangerous trend.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

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Statin. If we as a profession do not stand up

and announce that the " standardized capsules " that portray

themselves as safe natural herbal supplements - Red Yeasts

Rice ARE actually standardized Statin drugs

>>>>If the red yeast rice is not boosted by a pharmaceutical than i do not see

any problem with using technology to concentrate this herbal product. Red yeast

is not just a statin,it contains many other compounds that have effects on

cholesterol. I have more problem with trying to state that " herbs are safe " when

often we do not really know.providing accurate information on risks and benefits

is what should be emphasized. Part of this is stating what is known and what in

NOT known.

 

 

 

 

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Come on guys. In the legal environment we live in, how we describe herbs

can influence the views of the regulating agencies.

 

Red Rice is not " A " statin. It contains compounds that the drug

companies call statins.

 

Food are not drugs because they are concentrated. They are drugs because

of what people say they are doing with them. (I.E, I use Red Rice to lower

cholesterol.)

 

If we are foolish enough to state we use concentrated foods that contain

named drugs (like statins) to improve a disease,, we deserve the bashing of

Government forces that will come.

 

Please don't misuse language in a way that puts our profession out of the

bounds of it's scope, then complain when " they " come down on us.

 

Best regards,

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 3/13/2005 11:45:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

Statin. If we as a profession do not stand up

and announce that the " standardized capsules " that portray

themselves as safe natural herbal supplements - Red Yeasts

Rice ARE actually standardized Statin drugs

>>>>If the red yeast rice is not boosted by a pharmaceutical than i do not

see any problem with using technology to concentrate this herbal product. Red

yeast is not just a statin,it contains many other compounds that have effects on

cholesterol. I have more problem with trying to state that " herbs are safe "

when often we do not really know.providing accurate information on risks and

benefits is what should be emphasized. Part of this is stating what is known and

what in NOT known.

 

 

 

 

 

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In the backwaters of rural India where I grew up they had a saying for

everything

worthwhile which ever happened, or could happen, or would and would not

happen,

to villagers and townspeople alike, and many of these I find holding

true, even in the

far shores of the Western world.

 

One of these was the phrase, a simile, " O that! That's like a pimple on

the posterior

of the publican " ..

 

If one occurred, everybody knew about it, everybody spoke of it,

everybody discussed

it to pieces, and everybody had an opinion about it.

 

The acupuncturist with an unfortunate association to an accident, even a

supposed

Pneumothorax, falls into this category.

 

Which is to say if a WM person popped a cannula into the wrong cavity,

creating a

large hematoma, or a collapse of this viscus or that, no one will ever

know in that

town, or village, neighborhood or community where the surgical facility

exists.

 

On the other hand if the smallest mishap, much like the pimple on the

very noticeable

posterior happens, to an acupuncturist, everyone and their mummy's uncle

are likely to know,

or talk about it, or run into reportage in one manner or the other.

 

One might say, what are the chances of one the 9000 spontaneous

Pneumothorax men walking into

the clinic of nay one of the 20 000 unsuspecting acupuncture

professional in the U.S., or 8000 in

Canada, on any one of the 360 days?

 

The rustic back home will say, chewing the cud under the huge centuries

old Banyan tree by

the muddy river where everyone gathers in the evening,

 

" Um. Hit's less abaht tha Bayle, an' more abaht tha Butte " .

 

Dr. Holmes

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Also

Lets not forget that medical interventions have normal risks. Even a pneumo is

not really a mal practice it is a complication. If properly consented i do not

believe a patient could sue. If not consented then the LAc can be charged with

criminal assault.

 

 

 

 

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Very funny once again Holmes. Thanks for making us smile.

 

By the way, I am about 50 mins south of Washington DC in a backwater

called " LaPlata, MD. " My first style is Five Element and I integrate

TCM and Dr. Tan and anything else I have learned along the way, e.g.

Chakra Engery healing. While I have treated some Lazurous cases for

pain, I really revel in treating emotional issues and have a lot of life

changing stories. So I throw this out to the universe, if you think

this particular patient needs to land in this particular treatment room

at this particular time.

 

Anne Crowley

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad wrote:

 

> In the backwaters of rural India where I grew up they had a saying for

> everything

> worthwhile which ever happened, or could happen, or would and would not

> happen,

> to villagers and townspeople alike, and many of these I find holding

> true, even in the

> far shores of the Western world.

>

> One of these was the phrase, a simile, " O that! That's like a pimple on

> the posterior

> of the publican " ..

>

> If one occurred, everybody knew about it, everybody spoke of it,

> everybody discussed

> it to pieces, and everybody had an opinion about it.

>

> The acupuncturist with an unfortunate association to an accident, even a

> supposed

> Pneumothorax, falls into this category.

>

> Which is to say if a WM person popped a cannula into the wrong cavity,

> creating a

> large hematoma, or a collapse of this viscus or that, no one will ever

> know in that

> town, or village, neighborhood or community where the surgical facility

> exists.

>

> On the other hand if the smallest mishap, much like the pimple on the

> very noticeable

> posterior happens, to an acupuncturist, everyone and their mummy's uncle

> are likely to know,

> or talk about it, or run into reportage in one manner or the other.

>

> One might say, what are the chances of one the 9000 spontaneous

> Pneumothorax men walking into

> the clinic of nay one of the 20 000 unsuspecting acupuncture

> professional in the U.S., or 8000 in

> Canada, on any one of the 360 days?

>

> The rustic back home will say, chewing the cud under the huge centuries

> old Banyan tree by

> the muddy river where everyone gathers in the evening,

>

> " Um. Hit's less abaht tha Bayle, an' more abaht tha Butte " .

>

> Dr. Holmes

> CEUS on DVD

> www.acu-free.com

>

>

>

>

>

 

> http://babel.altavista.com/

>

>

> and

> adjust accordingly.

>

> Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the

> group requires prior permission from the author.

>

> If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

> academics,

>

>

>

>

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Hi Anne

Have forwarded to patient who may contact you.

 

Thanks.

Holmes

 

Anne Crowley wrote:

 

> Very funny once again Holmes. Thanks for making us smile.

>

> By the way, I am about 50 mins south of Washington DC in a backwater

> called " LaPlata, MD. " My first style is Five Element and I integrate

> TCM and Dr. Tan and anything else I have learned along the way, e.g.

> Chakra Engery healing. While I have treated some Lazurous cases for

> pain, I really revel in treating emotional issues and have a lot of life

> changing stories. So I throw this out to the universe, if you think

> this particular patient needs to land in this particular treatment room

> at this particular time.

>

> Anne Crowley

>

> Dr. Holmes Keikobad wrote:

>

> > In the backwaters of rural India where I grew up they had a saying for

> > everything

> > worthwhile which ever happened, or could happen, or would and would not

> > happen,

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