ROOT versus BRANCH and incorrect focusing on the BRANCH

February 23, 2005

Hi All, & Patricia,

Patricia wrote [and I have made some edits that, I hope, are accurate]:

> Re your discussion with Are: I see perfectly why he looks for and

> treats only the ROOT, the elusive ROOT!

> Ask Are why he thinks that one need not worry about the Excess and why

> the only reason for hemoacupuncture is to drain destructive energy?

Are could you please answer that?

> People who feel the Excess must be treated are not getting it. Those

> that don't understand why only destructive energy needs to be drained

> don't get it.

> A Master of the Ko Cycle, like Are, realizes that redirection of all

> energy with rebalancing that occurs with ROOT treatment is the simple

> beauty of his results.

> IMO, treating a patient just for their complaint, when and if one has

> the power to see the ROOT of the problem is a lot like malpractice or

> maltreatment. The key word is if they KNOW…

> I have now tuned into examples of people using TCM. Many are highly

> respected, but they make the mistake that Are has highlighted. That

> is, when prescribing herbs for seizures, they think that it is a problem

> in LV. They succeed in controlling the seizures, but then LV cancer

> develops later.

Are and others have also seen that.

> There is a TCM herbalist who uses herb formulas almost exclusively. He

> has changed some classical formulas, developed the ability to see the

> beginning, the middle and the end of a Pattern and manipulated the

> formula to treat all of these. His initial results are amazing but

> guess what? For the presenting problem that the patient wanted treated,

> almost all had the misgiving of getting chronic disease in another

> Channel. Guess what? Most of the time it turns out that the Channel

> subsequently manifesting disease was the ROOT problem in the first

> place, untreated because of EXACTLY what Are is saying.

> If all one can do is treat the BRANCHES (treat to remove the presenting

> complaint/S & Ss to satisfy the patient), with well I guess that is ALL

> one can do. BUT THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. It parallels WM in that it

> palliates the patient. It only suppresses the problem but IT DOES NOT

> CURE.

That is the problem for ALL therapists - doctors, vets, physios, OMDs,

LicAcs, etc. We can only do our best. But " our best " depends on our

depth and breath of study, our experience, and our intuition.

Unfortunately, as you said, many of us fail to identify the real ROOT and

treat the BRANCHES (or the incorrect ROOT). This, inevitably, reduces

our real longterm success rates.

> The real question is: Can one be satisfied, knowing that one is not

> truly healing by not curing? By not addressing the ROOT, one can make

> sure that there are plenty of problems to treat!

Yes, but we can only work within the limits of our expertise. There are

few real Masters, IMO. I would love to be one of them. Maybe my time

will come in my next Reincarnation!

> Re the comment that the problem in not uniElemental: If the ROOT is

> found why can this NOT be so? The Elemental phases or processes are

> exactly that. The interrelationship of the ROOT problem generates in

> anything but a uniElemental illustration. It is only a Master that can

> find that ROOT.

The ROOT may be Xu of one Element, but the BRANCHES can be in a

different (or more than one different) Element.

> All roads lead to Rome. Whatever you want to use to illustrate that,

> there is a beginning point of Xu; everything else is arises from that.

> How does Are find the ROOT?

IMO, it is his mastery of the Pulse Dx, combined with intuition and

experience. Are uses the Pulse to Dx the ROOT Xu, but also to Dx the

BRANCHES (manifesting abnormalities, like Shi, Stasis, etc). In that

way, he identifies the ROOT and the BRANCHES – the origin and

manifestations of the chaos.

Are, would ypu comment? Am I correct that the Pulse can separate the

ROOT from the BRANCHES for you?

> This kind of discussion is great for all of us trying to become

> competent TCM practitioners, Ciao, P. Jordan, DVM

Yes. And I am still struggling to understand it all! I am a terribly slow

learner!

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February 23, 2005

Hi Phil,

Great topic to raise!

If one does agree to treat from the root, where is the root?

If I follow one system it is within a 5 Element paradigm, if I follow

another it might be found in an Extra Ordinary Pattern, another system sees

it back at the formation of the sperm and egg. Are all the systems

(paradigms) accessible via a hologram where it doesn't matter which system's

root it is that one is treating?

Following lengthy discussions over a number of years with a colleague

trained in the modality of kinesiology, we agreed that somewhere there was a

fracturing and from this fracture, restitution is made via illness. That is

the original issue can or won't be faced and so the systems adapt by way of

restitution, we could think of this as a disease process; an ever increasing

spiral of disharmony. We figure you can't go from dysfunction to function

without backing back up to the original departure from wholeness - is the

root.

Furthermore we concluded, that many of us in the healing profession chase

this restitution from one set of symptoms to another. A game both

practitioners and patients play over and over. If you strengthen a patient

they will use the same restitution, usually until breaking point, rock

bottom, from which place they may seek to do it differently. That

difference may be another form of restitution or it might actually be a

transcending of the original fracture.

In some discussions we figured that the person doesn't want to or can't get

well as they would have to deal with the original fracture which may not be

possible from a technical point of view or it may not be possible from the

desire of the Px, ie facing something they are running away from. Heck

maybe it is back in another life time or another universe or another

dimension.

Maybe in our ego / mind driven / naming paradigm that we seem to

predominately exist within, it may not be possible to treat the root....

this may reflect the notion that a problem can not be resolved at the level

in which it manifests.

Best wishes,

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Wednesday, 23 February 2005 2:02 PM

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