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Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach

foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis

etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM. I've

been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I

know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no

experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to

people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would

appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it

more specific, I offer the following questions:

 

1. About textbooks:

Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of

Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline, MA

 

Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A

Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill

Livingstone: Edinburgh

 

Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese

Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA>

 

Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If the

book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being

recommended, could you tell me the name and author?

By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of

TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This

book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of

translation and the style of editing are well commented here by

English-speaking students.

 

2. About Methods of Teaching:

Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the

begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals

easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful example

when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools?

Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more

interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM

instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again?

 

3. About particulars:

Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly

welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are

willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic.

 

Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here,

or you can directly email me at leeapple301

 

Best Regards!

apple

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Imo, the Wiseman book is better- it is closer to the Chinese textbooks than

Maciocia's book is. I don't know the Shanghai book you mentioned, so dunno

about that one.

 

One could use numerology when explaining the concepts- I had a teacher who

did that, and I found it very interesting. Starting from the Dao (0), then

the unity of manifestation (1), the duality of yin and yang(2), then you can

choose Jing-Qi-Shen or Heaven-Man-Earth(3), then perhaps the doubling of the

yin and yang lines (4), five elements (5) and then things are not so clear

anymore. Perhaps three yin and three yang meridians (6) and refer to their

significance in the Shang Han Lun.... I always thought this was a good

introduction.

 

There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner classic

available in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of the drawings are

quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials?

Good luck with the teaching,

 

Tom.

 

 

----

 

leeapple301

02/14/05 13:58:06

Chinese Medicine

Advice Needed

 

 

Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach

foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis

etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM. I've

been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I

know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no

experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to

people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would

appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it

more specific, I offer the following questions:

 

1. About textbooks:

Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of

Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline, MA

 

Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A

Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill

Livingstone: Edinburgh

 

Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese

Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA>

 

Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If the

book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being

recommended, could you tell me the name and author?

By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of

TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This

book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of

translation and the style of editing are well commented here by

English-speaking students.

 

2. About Methods of Teaching:

Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the

begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals

easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful example

when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools?

Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more

interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM

instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again?

 

3. About particulars:

Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly

welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are

willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic.

 

Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here,

or you can directly email me at leeapple301

 

Best Regards!

apple

 

 

 

 

 

 

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please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow emperor book.

thank you

maria k.

 

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Tom Verhaeghe <verhaeghe_tom

Monday, February 14, 2005 10:00 am

Re: Advice Needed

 

>

> Imo, the Wiseman book is better- it is closer to the Chinese

> textbooks than

> Maciocia's book is. I don't know the Shanghai book you mentioned,

> so dunno

> about that one.

>

> One could use numerology when explaining the concepts- I had a

> teacher who

> did that, and I found it very interesting. Starting from the Dao

> (0), then

> the unity of manifestation (1), the duality of yin and yang(2),

> then you can

> choose Jing-Qi-Shen or Heaven-Man-Earth(3), then perhaps the

> doubling of the

> yin and yang lines (4), five elements (5) and then things are not

> so clear

> anymore. Perhaps three yin and three yang meridians (6) and refer

> to their

> significance in the Shang Han Lun.... I always thought this was a good

> introduction.

>

> There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner

> classicavailable in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of the

> drawings are

> quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials?

> Good luck with the teaching,

>

> Tom.

>

>

> ----

>

> leeapple301

> 02/14/05 13:58:06

> Chinese Medicine

> Advice Needed

>

>

> Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach

> foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis

> etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM.

> I've

> been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I

> know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no

> experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to

> people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would

> appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it

> more specific, I offer the following questions:

>

> 1. About textbooks:

> Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of

> Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline,

> MA

>

> Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A

> Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill

> Livingstone: Edinburgh

>

> Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese

> Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA>

>

> Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If

> the

> book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being

> recommended, could you tell me the name and author?

> By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of

> TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This

> book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of

> translation and the style of editing are well commented here by

> English-speaking students.

>

> 2. About Methods of Teaching:

> Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the

> begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals

> easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful

> example

> when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools?

> Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more

> interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM

> instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again?

>

> 3. About particulars:

> Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly

> welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are

> willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic.

>

> Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here,

> or you can directly email me at leeapple301

>

> Best Regards!

> apple

>

>

>

>

>

> To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link

> page,

> http://babel.altavista.com/

>

> http://groups.

> com and adjust

> accordingly.

>

> Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside

> the group

> requires prior permission from the author.

>

> If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

> academics,

>

>

>

>

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I've been trying to find this book for years. Amazon.uk says they

have it, but months go by and they respond that they were unable to

track it down. If anyone knows where to get, I'd appreciate the

info.

 

Thanks,

Ross

 

Chinese Medicine , rmkuriloff@o...

wrote:

> please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow emperor book.

> thank you

> maria k.

>

>There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner

> > classicavailable in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of

the

> > drawings are

> > quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials?

> > Good luck with the teaching,

> >

> > Tom.

> >

> >

> > ----

> >

> > leeapple301

> > 02/14/05 13:58:06

> > Chinese Medicine

> > Advice Needed

> >

> >

> > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach

> > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis

> > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM.

> > I've

> > been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready.

I

> > know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no

> > experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English

to

> > people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would

> > appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make

it

> > more specific, I offer the following questions:

> >

> > 1. About textbooks:

> > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of

> > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications;

Brookline,

> > MA

> >

> > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A

> > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill

> > Livingstone: Edinburgh

> >

> > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese

> > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA>

> >

> > Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If

> > the

> > book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of

being

> > recommended, could you tell me the name and author?

> > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of

> > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This

> > book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of

> > translation and the style of editing are well commented here by

> > English-speaking students.

> >

> > 2. About Methods of Teaching:

> > Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the

> > begining, how did the instructor make the course of

foundamentals

> > easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful

> > example

> > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools?

> > Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more

> > interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM

> > instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again?

> >

> > 3. About particulars:

> > Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly

> > welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and

are

> > willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic.

> >

> > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies

here,

> > or you can directly email me at leeapple301

> >

> > Best Regards!

> > apple

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link

> > page,

> > http://babel.altavista.com/

> >

> >

http://groups.

> > com and adjust

> > accordingly.

> >

> > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside

> > the group

> > requires prior permission from the author.

> >

> > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

> > academics,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I don't know why there is any demand for a book like this. I've seen

it and it really is quite awful.

 

 

On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:04 PM, rossrosen wrote:

 

>

> I've been trying to find this book for years.  Amazon.uk says they

> have it, but months go by and they respond that they were unable to

> track it down.  If anyone knows where to get, I'd appreciate the

> info.

>

> Thanks,

> Ross

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Ross;

 

Xin Hua Shu Dian (New China Books) has it in

Guangzhou.

 

I agree with Zev, though, and never buy any books with

cartoons in them.

 

Regards, Jack

 

--- rossrosen <rossrosen wrote:

 

>

> I've been trying to find this book for years.

> Amazon.uk says they

> have it, but months go by and they respond that they

> were unable to

> track it down. If anyone knows where to get, I'd

> appreciate the

> info.

>

> Thanks,

> Ross

>

> Chinese Medicine ,

> rmkuriloff@o...

> wrote:

> > please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow

> emperor book.

> > thank you

> > maria k.

> >

> >There's also a comic book version of the Yellow

> Emperor's inner

> > > classicavailable in China( bilingual

> English-Chinese). Some of

> the

> > > drawings are

> > > quite funny and might be able to spice up some

> text materials?

> > > Good luck with the teaching,

> > >

> > > Tom.

> > >

> > >

> > > ----

> > >

> > > leeapple301

> > > 02/14/05 13:58:06

> > > Chinese Medicine

> > > Advice Needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in

> China. I am to teach

> > > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements,

> viscera, pathogenesis

> > > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who

> are new to TCM.

> > > I've

> > > been preparing for a long time but I still feel

> not quite ready.

> I

> > > know how to give this course to Chinese students

> but I have no

> > > experiences in how to convey the messages

> correctly in English

> to

> > > people. I know all of you are specialists in

> TCM, so I would

> > > appreciate very much if you could give me some

> advice. To make

> it

> > > more specific, I offer the following questions:

> > >

> > > 1. About textbooks:

> > > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991

> <Fundamentals of

> > > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm

> Publications;

> Brookline,

> > > MA

> > >

> > > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of Chinese

> Medicine: A

> > > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and

> Herbalists>. Churchill

> > > Livingstone: Edinburgh

> > >

> > > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical

> Foundations of Chinese

> > > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA>

> > >

> > > Which one did you use? which one do you think

> is the best? If

> > > the

> > > book you used is not among the list and it is

> also worthy of

> being

> > > recommended, could you tell me the name and

> author?

> > > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief),

> <Basis Theory of

> > > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai

> University of TCM. This

> > > book is the best one I've ever found in

> China.The accuracy of

> > > translation and the style of editing are well

> commented here by

> > > English-speaking students.

> > >

> > > 2. About Methods of Teaching:

> > > Could you remember, when you had the TCM

> training at the

> > > begining, how did the instructor make the course

> of

> foundamentals

> > > easy for you to follow? Any specific

> successful/unsuccessful

> > > example

> > > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any

> tools?

> > > Could you give advice on how to make the

> teaching more

> > > interesting and effective? How would you expect

> a Chinese TCM

> > > instructor give the course if you were the

> beginigers again?

> > >

> > > 3. About particulars:

> > > Anything that comes to your mind about this

> subject is warmly

> > > welcome. If you happen to have some good

> related-materials and

> are

> > > willing to share them with me, that will be even

> more fantastic.

> > >

> > > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to

> your replies

> here,

> > > or you can directly email me at leeapple301

> > >

> > > Best Regards!

> > > apple

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To translate this message, copy and paste it

> into this web link

> > > page,

> > > http://babel.altavista.com/

> > >

> > >

> http://groups.

> > > com and

> adjust

> > > accordingly.

> > >

> > > Messages are the property of the author. Any

> duplication outside

> > > the group

> > > requires prior permission from the author.

> > >

> > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss

> TCM with other

> > > academics,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Did you check on eBay? or half.com (www.half.com)

They have lots of books...

 

 

-

rossrosen

Chinese Medicine

Monday, February 14, 2005 3:04 PM

Re: Advice Needed

 

 

 

I've been trying to find this book for years. Amazon.uk says they

have it, but months go by and they respond that they were unable to

track it down. If anyone knows where to get, I'd appreciate the

info.

 

Thanks,

Ross

 

Chinese Medicine , rmkuriloff@o...

wrote:

> please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow emperor book.

> thank you

> maria k.

>

>There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner

> > classicavailable in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of

the

> > drawings are

> > quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials?

> > Good luck with the teaching,

> >

> > Tom.

> >

> >

> > ----

> >

> > leeapple301

> > 02/14/05 13:58:06

> > Chinese Medicine

> > Advice Needed

> >

> >

> > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach

> > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis

> > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM.

> > I've

> > been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready.

I

> > know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no

> > experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English

to

> > people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would

> > appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make

it

> > more specific, I offer the following questions:

> >

> > 1. About textbooks:

> > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of

> > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications;

Brookline,

> > MA

> >

> > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A

> > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill

> > Livingstone: Edinburgh

> >

> > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese

> > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA>

> >

> > Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If

> > the

> > book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of

being

> > recommended, could you tell me the name and author?

> > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of

> > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This

> > book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of

> > translation and the style of editing are well commented here by

> > English-speaking students.

> >

> > 2. About Methods of Teaching:

> > Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the

> > begining, how did the instructor make the course of

foundamentals

> > easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful

> > example

> > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools?

> > Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more

> > interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM

> > instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again?

> >

> > 3. About particulars:

> > Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly

> > welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and

are

> > willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic.

> >

> > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies

here,

> > or you can directly email me at leeapple301

> >

> > Best Regards!

> > apple

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link

> > page,

> > http://babel.altavista.com/

> >

> >

http://groups.

> > com and adjust

> > accordingly.

> >

> > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside

> > the group

> > requires prior permission from the author.

> >

> > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

> > academics,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Chinese Medicine , Jack Sweeney

<mojavecowboy> wrote:

 

>

> I agree with Zev, though, and never buy any books with

> cartoons in them.

>

 

Many of Ikeda Masakazu's books have cartoons by the same illustrator who did the

cartoon Su Wen (which i also have but in Japanese). I've wondered whether that

was the

decision of Ikeda sensei or Ido no Nihon, the publisher. I read some of a draft

of the

forthcoming English translation of Dento Shinkyu Chiryoho (Traditional Acumoxa

Treatment) and the editorial remarks seemed to indicate that the cartoons were

going into

the English version as well. Not a book to be taken lightly, in any case, Ikeda

sensei is

quite brilliant.

 

rh

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I have a copy of something titled:

 

The Illustrated Yellow Emperor's Canon of Medicine

by Zhou Chuncai and Han YaZhou

 

" Dolphin Books, Beijing 1997, ISBN 7-80051-817-5

24 Baiwanzhuang Road, Beijing 100037, China

Distributed by China International Book Trading Corporation

35 Chengongzhuang XiLu, Beijing, 1000044, China

PO Box 399, Beijing China "

 

It's interesting to me for the parallel text (relative short Chinese text

with English translation) attached to every cartoon. Useful in learning

something more of the language.

 

Otherwise it presents just selected chapters (SuWen & LingShu). And TCM

interpretations.

 

Perhaps also useful, as cartoons from another culture often are, for

insight into that culture.

 

 

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I have a copy of something titled:

 

The Illustrated Yellow Emperor's Canon of Medicine

by Zhou Chuncai and Han YaZhou

 

" Dolphin Books, Beijing 1997, ISBN 7-80051-817-5

24 Baiwanzhuang Road, Beijing 100037, China

Distributed by China International Book Trading Corporation

35 Chengongzhuang XiLu, Beijing, 1000044, China

PO Box 399, Beijing China "

 

(Tom) Yes, that's the one. I think tastes differ when it comes to things

like this. I actually like those cartoons.

In Taiwan, there is a famous guy who made comic book interpretations of the

works of Lao Zi, Zhuang Zi and others. They were a hit in Taiwan, and a

colleague told me that artist (forgot his name, sorry, but many Taiwanese

should know him)now lives in a big house on the hills overlooking Taipeh

(=very expensive). Heard they have been translated into many languages.

I agree with Chris, the Yellow Emperor's comic book was also useful to me to

learn some more Chinese.

 

 

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leeapple301 wrote:

>

> Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach

 

Hi Apple!

 

I can tell you what not to do. Sit in front of the class and read the

book to the students. We had several instructors do that.

 

The Maciocia book is quite good. There is one I just read, years after

graduating, which is also quite nice, " Between Heaven and Earth " by

Beinfield and Korngold. Watch word wrap on this link:

 

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345379748/qid=1108468275/sr=8-1/\

ref=pd_csp_1/002-5925919-0731268?v=glance & s=books & n=507846>

 

If word wrap breaks the link, copy and paste the second line of the link

into the address field at the end of the part that does get into it. Or

just go to <http://www.amazon.com> and search on " Between Heaven and Earth "

 

I wished with all my heart as a student for the teachers to identify the

most important points. They mostly said " It is all important, memorize

it all " ! Years into practice, I find there are things in TCM I seldom

even think about, 5 element is a good example. There was no mention of

how to organize your office, bill insurance, get patients to come to you

.. . . New practitioners almost all fail in the US, less than 20% even

practice after leaving school!

 

There was little organization of the lectures. They just rambled on and

on following the text in a monotone. The headmaster of the school was

quite frustrated about it but after he yelled and screamed at them about

doing their jobs right they just went back to the same old thing. I

think it may be that they were taught that way when they were in school

and just sat there and memorized it all while understanding none of it.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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The only reason I'm looking for it is I like to introduce many of

the concepts of Chinese medicine to my 2.5 year old son. He loves

similar types of books on Daoism, etc. Keeps him interested.

 

Ross

 

Chinese Medicine , " Z'ev

Rosenberg " <zrosenbe@s...> wrote:

> I don't know why there is any demand for a book like this. I've

seen

> it and it really is quite awful.

>

>

> On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:04 PM, rossrosen wrote:

>

> >

> > I've been trying to find this book for years.  Amazon.uk says

they

> > have it, but months go by and they respond that they were

unable to

> > track it down.  If anyone knows where to get, I'd appreciate the

> > info.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Ross

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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that's not the one i'm talking about. the one i'm referring to i

found on china books (thank you), details below. i'm buying them

both so i'll see the differences.

 

Details

Weight 0.80 lbs

ISBN 9813068280

Publisher Asiapac Books

Year Published 1996

Size 6 x 8

Pages 220

Language English

Cover PAPERBACK

Author Written by: Zhou Chuncai, Illustrated by: Zhou Chuncai, Han

Yazhou, Han Yi, and Hou Xiuqing

Price: $15.95

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote:

>

>

>

> I have a copy of something titled:

>

> The Illustrated Yellow Emperor's Canon of Medicine

> by Zhou Chuncai and Han YaZhou

>

> " Dolphin Books, Beijing 1997, ISBN 7-80051-817-5

> 24 Baiwanzhuang Road, Beijing 100037, China

> Distributed by China International Book Trading Corporation

> 35 Chengongzhuang XiLu, Beijing, 1000044, China

> PO Box 399, Beijing China "

>

> (Tom) Yes, that's the one. I think tastes differ when it comes to

things

> like this. I actually like those cartoons.

> In Taiwan, there is a famous guy who made comic book

interpretations of the

> works of Lao Zi, Zhuang Zi and others. They were a hit in Taiwan,

and a

> colleague told me that artist (forgot his name, sorry, but many

Taiwanese

> should know him)now lives in a big house on the hills overlooking

Taipeh

> (=very expensive). Heard they have been translated into many

languages.

> I agree with Chris, the Yellow Emperor's comic book was also

useful to me to learn some more Chinese.

>

>

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Of the books that you have mentioned, Wiseman's is the best choice by

far. It is much more faithful to the Chinese sources and preserves

the technical accuracy of Chinese medical concepts in a way that the

other texts you mentioned do not. Porkert's is not used very much and

many of his translations are awkward.

 

Eric

 

Chinese Medicine , rmkuriloff@o...

wrote:

> please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow emperor book.

> thank you

> maria k.

>

> -

> Tom Verhaeghe <verhaeghe_tom@h...>

> Monday, February 14, 2005 10:00 am

> Re: Advice Needed

>

> >

> > Imo, the Wiseman book is better- it is closer to the Chinese

> > textbooks than

> > Maciocia's book is. I don't know the Shanghai book you mentioned,

> > so dunno

> > about that one.

> >

> > One could use numerology when explaining the concepts- I had a

> > teacher who

> > did that, and I found it very interesting. Starting from the Dao

> > (0), then

> > the unity of manifestation (1), the duality of yin and yang(2),

> > then you can

> > choose Jing-Qi-Shen or Heaven-Man-Earth(3), then perhaps the

> > doubling of the

> > yin and yang lines (4), five elements (5) and then things are not

> > so clear

> > anymore. Perhaps three yin and three yang meridians (6) and refer

> > to their

> > significance in the Shang Han Lun.... I always thought this was a good

> > introduction.

> >

> > There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner

> > classicavailable in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of the

> > drawings are

> > quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials?

> > Good luck with the teaching,

> >

> > Tom.

> >

> >

> > ----

> >

> > leeapple301

> > 02/14/05 13:58:06

> > Chinese Medicine

> > Advice Needed

> >

> >

> > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach

> > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis

> > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM.

> > I've

> > been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I

> > know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no

> > experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to

> > people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would

> > appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it

> > more specific, I offer the following questions:

> >

> > 1. About textbooks:

> > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of

> > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline,

> > MA

> >

> > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A

> > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill

> > Livingstone: Edinburgh

> >

> > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese

> > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA>

> >

> > Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If

> > the

> > book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being

> > recommended, could you tell me the name and author?

> > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of

> > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This

> > book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of

> > translation and the style of editing are well commented here by

> > English-speaking students.

> >

> > 2. About Methods of Teaching:

> > Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the

> > begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals

> > easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful

> > example

> > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools?

> > Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more

> > interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM

> > instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again?

> >

> > 3. About particulars:

> > Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly

> > welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are

> > willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic.

> >

> > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here,

> > or you can directly email me at leeapple301

> >

> > Best Regards!

> > apple

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link

> > page,

> > http://babel.altavista.com/

> >

> > http://groups.

> > com and adjust

> > accordingly.

> >

> > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside

> > the group

> > requires prior permission from the author.

> >

> > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

> > academics,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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