Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM. I've been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it more specific, I offer the following questions: 1. About textbooks: Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline, MA Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill Livingstone: Edinburgh Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA> Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If the book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being recommended, could you tell me the name and author? By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of translation and the style of editing are well commented here by English-speaking students. 2. About Methods of Teaching: Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful example when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools? Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again? 3. About particulars: Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic. Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here, or you can directly email me at leeapple301 Best Regards! apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Imo, the Wiseman book is better- it is closer to the Chinese textbooks than Maciocia's book is. I don't know the Shanghai book you mentioned, so dunno about that one. One could use numerology when explaining the concepts- I had a teacher who did that, and I found it very interesting. Starting from the Dao (0), then the unity of manifestation (1), the duality of yin and yang(2), then you can choose Jing-Qi-Shen or Heaven-Man-Earth(3), then perhaps the doubling of the yin and yang lines (4), five elements (5) and then things are not so clear anymore. Perhaps three yin and three yang meridians (6) and refer to their significance in the Shang Han Lun.... I always thought this was a good introduction. There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner classic available in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of the drawings are quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials? Good luck with the teaching, Tom. ---- leeapple301 02/14/05 13:58:06 Chinese Medicine Advice Needed Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM. I've been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it more specific, I offer the following questions: 1. About textbooks: Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline, MA Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill Livingstone: Edinburgh Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA> Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If the book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being recommended, could you tell me the name and author? By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of translation and the style of editing are well commented here by English-speaking students. 2. About Methods of Teaching: Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful example when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools? Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again? 3. About particulars: Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic. Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here, or you can directly email me at leeapple301 Best Regards! apple http://babel.altavista.com/ http://groups. com and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow emperor book. thank you maria k. - Tom Verhaeghe <verhaeghe_tom Monday, February 14, 2005 10:00 am Re: Advice Needed > > Imo, the Wiseman book is better- it is closer to the Chinese > textbooks than > Maciocia's book is. I don't know the Shanghai book you mentioned, > so dunno > about that one. > > One could use numerology when explaining the concepts- I had a > teacher who > did that, and I found it very interesting. Starting from the Dao > (0), then > the unity of manifestation (1), the duality of yin and yang(2), > then you can > choose Jing-Qi-Shen or Heaven-Man-Earth(3), then perhaps the > doubling of the > yin and yang lines (4), five elements (5) and then things are not > so clear > anymore. Perhaps three yin and three yang meridians (6) and refer > to their > significance in the Shang Han Lun.... I always thought this was a good > introduction. > > There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner > classicavailable in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of the > drawings are > quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials? > Good luck with the teaching, > > Tom. > > > ---- > > leeapple301 > 02/14/05 13:58:06 > Chinese Medicine > Advice Needed > > > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM. > I've > been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I > know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no > experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to > people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would > appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it > more specific, I offer the following questions: > > 1. About textbooks: > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline, > MA > > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill > Livingstone: Edinburgh > > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA> > > Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If > the > book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being > recommended, could you tell me the name and author? > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This > book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of > translation and the style of editing are well commented here by > English-speaking students. > > 2. About Methods of Teaching: > Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the > begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals > easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful > example > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools? > Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more > interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM > instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again? > > 3. About particulars: > Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly > welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are > willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic. > > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here, > or you can directly email me at leeapple301 > > Best Regards! > apple > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link > page, > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > http://groups. > com and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside > the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other > academics, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I've been trying to find this book for years. Amazon.uk says they have it, but months go by and they respond that they were unable to track it down. If anyone knows where to get, I'd appreciate the info. Thanks, Ross Chinese Medicine , rmkuriloff@o... wrote: > please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow emperor book. > thank you > maria k. > >There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner > > classicavailable in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of the > > drawings are > > quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials? > > Good luck with the teaching, > > > > Tom. > > > > > > ---- > > > > leeapple301 > > 02/14/05 13:58:06 > > Chinese Medicine > > Advice Needed > > > > > > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach > > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis > > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM. > > I've > > been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I > > know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no > > experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to > > people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would > > appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it > > more specific, I offer the following questions: > > > > 1. About textbooks: > > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of > > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline, > > MA > > > > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A > > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill > > Livingstone: Edinburgh > > > > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese > > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA> > > > > Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If > > the > > book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being > > recommended, could you tell me the name and author? > > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of > > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This > > book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of > > translation and the style of editing are well commented here by > > English-speaking students. > > > > 2. About Methods of Teaching: > > Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the > > begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals > > easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful > > example > > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools? > > Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more > > interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM > > instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again? > > > > 3. About particulars: > > Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly > > welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are > > willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic. > > > > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here, > > or you can directly email me at leeapple301 > > > > Best Regards! > > apple > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link > > page, > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > http://groups. > > com and adjust > > accordingly. > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside > > the group > > requires prior permission from the author. > > > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other > > academics, > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I don't know why there is any demand for a book like this. I've seen it and it really is quite awful. On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:04 PM, rossrosen wrote: > > I've been trying to find this book for years. Amazon.uk says they > have it, but months go by and they respond that they were unable to > track it down. If anyone knows where to get, I'd appreciate the > info. > > Thanks, > Ross > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Ross; Xin Hua Shu Dian (New China Books) has it in Guangzhou. I agree with Zev, though, and never buy any books with cartoons in them. Regards, Jack --- rossrosen <rossrosen wrote: > > I've been trying to find this book for years. > Amazon.uk says they > have it, but months go by and they respond that they > were unable to > track it down. If anyone knows where to get, I'd > appreciate the > info. > > Thanks, > Ross > > Chinese Medicine , > rmkuriloff@o... > wrote: > > please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow > emperor book. > > thank you > > maria k. > > > >There's also a comic book version of the Yellow > Emperor's inner > > > classicavailable in China( bilingual > English-Chinese). Some of > the > > > drawings are > > > quite funny and might be able to spice up some > text materials? > > > Good luck with the teaching, > > > > > > Tom. > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > leeapple301 > > > 02/14/05 13:58:06 > > > Chinese Medicine > > > Advice Needed > > > > > > > > > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in > China. I am to teach > > > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, > viscera, pathogenesis > > > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who > are new to TCM. > > > I've > > > been preparing for a long time but I still feel > not quite ready. > I > > > know how to give this course to Chinese students > but I have no > > > experiences in how to convey the messages > correctly in English > to > > > people. I know all of you are specialists in > TCM, so I would > > > appreciate very much if you could give me some > advice. To make > it > > > more specific, I offer the following questions: > > > > > > 1. About textbooks: > > > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 > <Fundamentals of > > > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm > Publications; > Brookline, > > > MA > > > > > > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of Chinese > Medicine: A > > > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and > Herbalists>. Churchill > > > Livingstone: Edinburgh > > > > > > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical > Foundations of Chinese > > > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA> > > > > > > Which one did you use? which one do you think > is the best? If > > > the > > > book you used is not among the list and it is > also worthy of > being > > > recommended, could you tell me the name and > author? > > > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), > <Basis Theory of > > > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai > University of TCM. This > > > book is the best one I've ever found in > China.The accuracy of > > > translation and the style of editing are well > commented here by > > > English-speaking students. > > > > > > 2. About Methods of Teaching: > > > Could you remember, when you had the TCM > training at the > > > begining, how did the instructor make the course > of > foundamentals > > > easy for you to follow? Any specific > successful/unsuccessful > > > example > > > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any > tools? > > > Could you give advice on how to make the > teaching more > > > interesting and effective? How would you expect > a Chinese TCM > > > instructor give the course if you were the > beginigers again? > > > > > > 3. About particulars: > > > Anything that comes to your mind about this > subject is warmly > > > welcome. If you happen to have some good > related-materials and > are > > > willing to share them with me, that will be even > more fantastic. > > > > > > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to > your replies > here, > > > or you can directly email me at leeapple301 > > > > > > Best Regards! > > > apple > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it > into this web link > > > page, > > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > > > > http://groups. > > > com and > adjust > > > accordingly. > > > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any > duplication outside > > > the group > > > requires prior permission from the author. > > > > > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss > TCM with other > > > academics, > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Did you check on eBay? or half.com (www.half.com) They have lots of books... - rossrosen Chinese Medicine Monday, February 14, 2005 3:04 PM Re: Advice Needed I've been trying to find this book for years. Amazon.uk says they have it, but months go by and they respond that they were unable to track it down. If anyone knows where to get, I'd appreciate the info. Thanks, Ross Chinese Medicine , rmkuriloff@o... wrote: > please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow emperor book. > thank you > maria k. > >There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner > > classicavailable in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of the > > drawings are > > quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials? > > Good luck with the teaching, > > > > Tom. > > > > > > ---- > > > > leeapple301 > > 02/14/05 13:58:06 > > Chinese Medicine > > Advice Needed > > > > > > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach > > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis > > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM. > > I've > > been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I > > know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no > > experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to > > people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would > > appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it > > more specific, I offer the following questions: > > > > 1. About textbooks: > > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of > > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline, > > MA > > > > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A > > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill > > Livingstone: Edinburgh > > > > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese > > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA> > > > > Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If > > the > > book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being > > recommended, could you tell me the name and author? > > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of > > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This > > book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of > > translation and the style of editing are well commented here by > > English-speaking students. > > > > 2. About Methods of Teaching: > > Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the > > begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals > > easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful > > example > > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools? > > Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more > > interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM > > instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again? > > > > 3. About particulars: > > Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly > > welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are > > willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic. > > > > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here, > > or you can directly email me at leeapple301 > > > > Best Regards! > > apple > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link > > page, > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > http://groups. > > com and adjust > > accordingly. > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside > > the group > > requires prior permission from the author. > > > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other > > academics, > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Chinese Medicine , Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy> wrote: > > I agree with Zev, though, and never buy any books with > cartoons in them. > Many of Ikeda Masakazu's books have cartoons by the same illustrator who did the cartoon Su Wen (which i also have but in Japanese). I've wondered whether that was the decision of Ikeda sensei or Ido no Nihon, the publisher. I read some of a draft of the forthcoming English translation of Dento Shinkyu Chiryoho (Traditional Acumoxa Treatment) and the editorial remarks seemed to indicate that the cartoons were going into the English version as well. Not a book to be taken lightly, in any case, Ikeda sensei is quite brilliant. rh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I have a copy of something titled: The Illustrated Yellow Emperor's Canon of Medicine by Zhou Chuncai and Han YaZhou " Dolphin Books, Beijing 1997, ISBN 7-80051-817-5 24 Baiwanzhuang Road, Beijing 100037, China Distributed by China International Book Trading Corporation 35 Chengongzhuang XiLu, Beijing, 1000044, China PO Box 399, Beijing China " It's interesting to me for the parallel text (relative short Chinese text with English translation) attached to every cartoon. Useful in learning something more of the language. Otherwise it presents just selected chapters (SuWen & LingShu). And TCM interpretations. Perhaps also useful, as cartoons from another culture often are, for insight into that culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I have a copy of something titled: The Illustrated Yellow Emperor's Canon of Medicine by Zhou Chuncai and Han YaZhou " Dolphin Books, Beijing 1997, ISBN 7-80051-817-5 24 Baiwanzhuang Road, Beijing 100037, China Distributed by China International Book Trading Corporation 35 Chengongzhuang XiLu, Beijing, 1000044, China PO Box 399, Beijing China " (Tom) Yes, that's the one. I think tastes differ when it comes to things like this. I actually like those cartoons. In Taiwan, there is a famous guy who made comic book interpretations of the works of Lao Zi, Zhuang Zi and others. They were a hit in Taiwan, and a colleague told me that artist (forgot his name, sorry, but many Taiwanese should know him)now lives in a big house on the hills overlooking Taipeh (=very expensive). Heard they have been translated into many languages. I agree with Chris, the Yellow Emperor's comic book was also useful to me to learn some more Chinese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 leeapple301 wrote: > > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach Hi Apple! I can tell you what not to do. Sit in front of the class and read the book to the students. We had several instructors do that. The Maciocia book is quite good. There is one I just read, years after graduating, which is also quite nice, " Between Heaven and Earth " by Beinfield and Korngold. Watch word wrap on this link: <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345379748/qid=1108468275/sr=8-1/\ ref=pd_csp_1/002-5925919-0731268?v=glance & s=books & n=507846> If word wrap breaks the link, copy and paste the second line of the link into the address field at the end of the part that does get into it. Or just go to <http://www.amazon.com> and search on " Between Heaven and Earth " I wished with all my heart as a student for the teachers to identify the most important points. They mostly said " It is all important, memorize it all " ! Years into practice, I find there are things in TCM I seldom even think about, 5 element is a good example. There was no mention of how to organize your office, bill insurance, get patients to come to you .. . . New practitioners almost all fail in the US, less than 20% even practice after leaving school! There was little organization of the lectures. They just rambled on and on following the text in a monotone. The headmaster of the school was quite frustrated about it but after he yelled and screamed at them about doing their jobs right they just went back to the same old thing. I think it may be that they were taught that way when they were in school and just sat there and memorized it all while understanding none of it. Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 The only reason I'm looking for it is I like to introduce many of the concepts of Chinese medicine to my 2.5 year old son. He loves similar types of books on Daoism, etc. Keeps him interested. Ross Chinese Medicine , " Z'ev Rosenberg " <zrosenbe@s...> wrote: > I don't know why there is any demand for a book like this. I've seen > it and it really is quite awful. > > > On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:04 PM, rossrosen wrote: > > > > > I've been trying to find this book for years. Amazon.uk says they > > have it, but months go by and they respond that they were unable to > > track it down. If anyone knows where to get, I'd appreciate the > > info. > > > > Thanks, > > Ross > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 that's not the one i'm talking about. the one i'm referring to i found on china books (thank you), details below. i'm buying them both so i'll see the differences. Details Weight 0.80 lbs ISBN 9813068280 Publisher Asiapac Books Year Published 1996 Size 6 x 8 Pages 220 Language English Cover PAPERBACK Author Written by: Zhou Chuncai, Illustrated by: Zhou Chuncai, Han Yazhou, Han Yi, and Hou Xiuqing Price: $15.95 Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe " <verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote: > > > > I have a copy of something titled: > > The Illustrated Yellow Emperor's Canon of Medicine > by Zhou Chuncai and Han YaZhou > > " Dolphin Books, Beijing 1997, ISBN 7-80051-817-5 > 24 Baiwanzhuang Road, Beijing 100037, China > Distributed by China International Book Trading Corporation > 35 Chengongzhuang XiLu, Beijing, 1000044, China > PO Box 399, Beijing China " > > (Tom) Yes, that's the one. I think tastes differ when it comes to things > like this. I actually like those cartoons. > In Taiwan, there is a famous guy who made comic book interpretations of the > works of Lao Zi, Zhuang Zi and others. They were a hit in Taiwan, and a > colleague told me that artist (forgot his name, sorry, but many Taiwanese > should know him)now lives in a big house on the hills overlooking Taipeh > (=very expensive). Heard they have been translated into many languages. > I agree with Chris, the Yellow Emperor's comic book was also useful to me to learn some more Chinese. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Of the books that you have mentioned, Wiseman's is the best choice by far. It is much more faithful to the Chinese sources and preserves the technical accuracy of Chinese medical concepts in a way that the other texts you mentioned do not. Porkert's is not used very much and many of his translations are awkward. Eric Chinese Medicine , rmkuriloff@o... wrote: > please give exact title/where to buy comic yellow emperor book. > thank you > maria k. > > - > Tom Verhaeghe <verhaeghe_tom@h...> > Monday, February 14, 2005 10:00 am > Re: Advice Needed > > > > > Imo, the Wiseman book is better- it is closer to the Chinese > > textbooks than > > Maciocia's book is. I don't know the Shanghai book you mentioned, > > so dunno > > about that one. > > > > One could use numerology when explaining the concepts- I had a > > teacher who > > did that, and I found it very interesting. Starting from the Dao > > (0), then > > the unity of manifestation (1), the duality of yin and yang(2), > > then you can > > choose Jing-Qi-Shen or Heaven-Man-Earth(3), then perhaps the > > doubling of the > > yin and yang lines (4), five elements (5) and then things are not > > so clear > > anymore. Perhaps three yin and three yang meridians (6) and refer > > to their > > significance in the Shang Han Lun.... I always thought this was a good > > introduction. > > > > There's also a comic book version of the Yellow Emperor's inner > > classicavailable in China( bilingual English-Chinese). Some of the > > drawings are > > quite funny and might be able to spice up some text materials? > > Good luck with the teaching, > > > > Tom. > > > > > > ---- > > > > leeapple301 > > 02/14/05 13:58:06 > > Chinese Medicine > > Advice Needed > > > > > > Hi,All! I am a teacher in a TCM college in China. I am to teach > > foundamental theory (Yinyang, 5 elements, viscera, pathogenesis > > etc.) for the first time to Iranian Doctors who are new to TCM. > > I've > > been preparing for a long time but I still feel not quite ready. I > > know how to give this course to Chinese students but I have no > > experiences in how to convey the messages correctly in English to > > people. I know all of you are specialists in TCM, so I would > > appreciate very much if you could give me some advice. To make it > > more specific, I offer the following questions: > > > > 1. About textbooks: > > Ellis, andrew; Wiseman, Nigel; Boss, Ken 1991 <Fundamentals of > > Chinese Acupuncture>, rev. ed.. Paradigm Publications; Brookline, > > MA > > > > Maciocia, Giovanni 1989 <Foundation of : A > > Comprehensive Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists>. Churchill > > Livingstone: Edinburgh > > > > Porkert, Manfred 1974 <The Theoretical Foundations of Chinese > > Medicine>. MIT Press: Cambridge, MA> > > > > Which one did you use? which one do you think is the best? If > > the > > book you used is not among the list and it is also worthy of being > > recommended, could you tell me the name and author? > > By the way, Wu Changguo(compiler-in-chief), <Basis Theory of > > TCM>. 2002, Publishing House of Shanghai University of TCM. This > > book is the best one I've ever found in China.The accuracy of > > translation and the style of editing are well commented here by > > English-speaking students. > > > > 2. About Methods of Teaching: > > Could you remember, when you had the TCM training at the > > begining, how did the instructor make the course of foundamentals > > easy for you to follow? Any specific successful/unsuccessful > > example > > when explaining the difficult concepts? Any tools? > > Could you give advice on how to make the teaching more > > interesting and effective? How would you expect a Chinese TCM > > instructor give the course if you were the beginigers again? > > > > 3. About particulars: > > Anything that comes to your mind about this subject is warmly > > welcome. If you happen to have some good related-materials and are > > willing to share them with me, that will be even more fantastic. > > > > Thank you very much! I am looking forward to your replies here, > > or you can directly email me at leeapple301 > > > > Best Regards! > > apple > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link > > page, > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > http://groups. > > com and adjust > > accordingly. > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside > > the group > > requires prior permission from the author. > > > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other > > academics, > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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