Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 One often sees an overwhelming LU Deficiency in a young man or woman who has had no palpable etiology at Metal which could cause this degree of depletion. Either the LU Mu has caused the deltoidal hollow to a drastic degree creating the Metal Stoop, or sometimes one sees the LU Shu which has spread over the upper back till Thoracic 4 or so till the whole back is leathery, with a muscle wasting, or lusterless skin, in aggravated cases even a scoliotic swaying of the upper thoracic vertebrae. One is left with the thought that this might be congenital, or in actuality prenatal. One asks for and gets the predictable history of a heavy smoking mother, that a father was smoking does cause as much damage. In such cases I have found that the 5 E grid does not work, because there is nothing wrong with the Earth Mother, and Heart Fire does no aggravate. Treating this as a stand alone LU Def helps. Treating this Toyo Hari fashion, after a fashion, helps more, but none of this is spectacular. Have tried GuSha with cupping, but not much extrudes. I am of a mind that this is a ready made LU anomaly which has transmigrated from the birthing mother to the child, and lives there, but with little or no reference to an Elemental context. Experiences? Dr. Holmes www.acu-free.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Dr. Holms, I am just speculating. Providing I understood the question correctly, is it possible that Meridian can separately from Organ be deficient (or vise versa), therefore inconsistency in palpating finding and symptoms? Peter Pav. --- " Dr. Holmes Keikobad " <dkaikobad wrote: One often sees an overwhelming LU Deficiency in a young man or woman who has had no palpable etiology at Metal which could cause this degree of depletion. Either the LU Mu has caused the deltoidal hollow to a drastic degree creating the Metal Stoop, or sometimes one sees the LU Shu which has spread over the upper back till Thoracic 4 or so till the whole back is leathery, with a muscle wasting, or lusterless skin, in aggravated cases even a scoliotic swaying of the upper thoracic vertebrae. One is left with the thought that this might be congenital, or in actuality prenatal. One asks for and gets the predictable history of a heavy smoking mother, that a father was smoking does cause as much damage. In such cases I have found that the 5 E grid does not work, because there is nothing wrong with the Earth Mother, and Heart Fire does no aggravate. Treating this as a stand alone LU Def helps. Treating this Toyo Hari fashion, after a fashion, helps more, but none of this is spectacular. Have tried GuSha with cupping, but not much extrudes. I am of a mind that this is a ready made LU anomaly which has transmigrated from the birthing mother to the child, and lives there, but with little or no reference to an Elemental context. Experiences? Dr. Holmes www.acu-free.com To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link page, http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Peter Pavolotsky wrote: > Dr. Holms, > I am just speculating. Providing I understood the > question correctly, is it possible that Meridian can > separately from Organ be deficient (or vise versa), > therefore inconsistency in palpating finding and > symptoms? > > Peter Pav. > That a LU Deficient state can be inherited at birth into an otherwise healthy system and stay there as an insert, or an anomaly. Holmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Dr. Holmes: Is this what is referred to as Tortoise Back (Gui Bei)? One sees a good deal of this in China, many of the people are in their forties, making me think this might go back to malnutrition induced by the Great Leap Forward? Regards, Jack " Either the LU Mu has caused the deltoidal hollow to a drastic degree creating the Metal Stoop, or sometimes one sees the LU Shu which has spread over the upper back till Thoracic 4 or so till the whole back is leathery, with a muscle wasting, or lusterless skin, in aggravated cases even a scoliotic swaying of the upper thoracic vertebrae. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 mojavecowboy wrote: > > Dr. Holmes: > > Is this what is referred to as Tortoise Back (Gui Bei)? One sees a > good deal of this in China, many of the people are in their forties, > making me think this might go back to malnutrition induced by the > Great Leap Forward? > > Regards, Jack > > " Either the LU Mu has caused the deltoidal hollow to a drastic degree > creating the Metal Stoop, or sometimes one sees the LU Shu which has > spread over the upper back till Thoracic 4 or so till the whole back > is leathery, with a muscle wasting, or lusterless skin, in aggravated > cases even a scoliotic swaying of the upper thoracic vertebrae. " > I think not, in that case you would find signs of SP Earth Impoverished, which over a period would have impacted UB to make it Rise. Ot some such permutation. These have a clear and drastic LU Metal Deficient, and almost nothing else on any other Element which might have caused it. Dr. Holmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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