Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Greetings All, I was wondering what the general opinion on assignment of organs to pulse positions is. In Giovannis’ newest book on diagnosis there’s a small discussion on whether to assign ie the Small Intestine to the Cun position on the left hand or to the Chi position or assigning the Kidney to one hand and Ming Men to the other (How is the Kidneys and Ming Men different anywho?). Giovanni mentions that there might be different approaches to organ assignment depending on whether one is a herbalist dealing with Nei Ke or acupuncturist dealing only with meridian problems. How about acupuncturist dealing with Nei Ke? Hope to get some input on this! Best regards, Thomas Bøgedal Sørensen WHRDA Lic. Instruktør Orientalsk Medicinsk Terapeut (OMT) Akupunktør (L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. NADA) Orientalsk Manuel terapeut (Exam. TuiNa) Klinik for Akupunktur & Traditionel Orientalsk Medicin Albanigade 23A, Kld. 5000 Odense C Tlf.: (+45) 31 25 92 26 Klinik for Akupunktur & Traditionel Orientalsk Medicin <http://www.orientalskmedicin.dk/> http://www.orientalskmedicin.dk --- Odense Hwa Rang Do® Skole Den koreanske kamp- og lægekunst Hwa Rang Do® <http://hwarangdo.mu-in.com/> http://hwarangdo.mu-in.com --- Dansk Sundhedsservice Totalløsninger til din virksomhed <http://www.dansksundhed.dk/> http://www.dansksundhed.dk kampo36 [kampo36] 5. februar 2005 03:35 Chinese Medicine Re: Intractable Pain Chinese Medicine , " Benjamin Hawes " <ben_laura@n...> wrote: >She has a darkened > complexion and has S & S of blood stagnation. This last time I threw in SP10 > to move blood, hopefully, along with local huato and UB25. We'll see. Any > ideas? > have you tried any bloodletting techniques? direct moxibustion? rh http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 While in school I had a Japanese style trained teacher who used a completely different approach to pulse positions. Deep Left Cun, Guan & Qi respectively was Kidney, Spleen & Liver and right was Heart, Lung & PC. Superficial where the matching Yin - Yang pairs. These positions are symmetrical for Hand Shaoyin, Taiyin and Jueyin on the left and Foot Jueyin, Taiyin and Shaoyin on the right. They are symmetrical for the six stages of the meridians making them elegant to use. I often diagnosed and treated based on these pulse positions with good results. It always interested me how different systems of pulse taking could come to very different conclusions about diagnosis and treatment, but by staying within the context of one system, a practitioner could achieve good results. Christopher Vedeler L.Ac., C.Ht. Oasis Acupuncture http://www.oasisacupuncture.com 8233 N. Via Paseo del Norte Suite D-35 Scottsdale, AZ 85258 (480) 991-3650 Thomas Bøgedal Sørensen [thomasboegedal] Saturday, February 05, 2005 12:06 AM Chinese Medicine Assignment of organs to pulse positions Greetings All, I was wondering what the general opinion on assignment of organs to pulse positions is. In Giovannis’ newest book on diagnosis there’s a small discussion on whether to assign ie the Small Intestine to the Cun position on the left hand or to the Chi position or assigning the Kidney to one hand and Ming Men to the other (How is the Kidneys and Ming Men different anywho?). Giovanni mentions that there might be different approaches to organ assignment depending on whether one is a herbalist dealing with Nei Ke or acupuncturist dealing only with meridian problems. How about acupuncturist dealing with Nei Ke? Hope to get some input on this! Best regards, Thomas Bøgedal Sørensen WHRDA Lic. Instruktør Orientalsk Medicinsk Terapeut (OMT) Akupunktør (L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. NADA) Orientalsk Manuel terapeut (Exam. TuiNa) Klinik for Akupunktur & Traditionel Orientalsk Medicin Albanigade 23A, Kld. 5000 Odense C Tlf.: (+45) 31 25 92 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Hi Christopher, Christopher Vedeler, L.Ac. wrote: > While in school I had a Japanese style trained teacher who used a > completely different approach to pulse positions. Deep Left Cun, Guan > & Qi respectively was Kidney, Spleen & Liver and right was Heart, Lung > & PC. Superficial where the matching Yin - Yang pairs. These > positions are symmetrical for Hand Shaoyin, Taiyin and Jueyin on the > left and Foot Jueyin, Taiyin and Shaoyin on the right. They are > symmetrical for the six stages of the meridians making them elegant to > use. I often diagnosed and treated based on these pulse positions > with good results. It always interested me how different systems of > pulse taking could come to very different conclusions about diagnosis > and treatment, but by staying within the context of one system, a > practitioner could achieve good results. Christopher Vedeler L.Ac., > C.Ht. Oasis Acupuncture http://www.oasisacupuncture.com 8233 N. Via > Paseo del Norte Suite D-35 Scottsdale, AZ 85258 (480) 991-3650 Been there and have the teashirt, Christopher! For almost 30 years, I have believed that the TCM pulse positions are no more than a mental construct, used intuitively to dowse / divine which channel-organ system(s) to treat, and how (Xie for Shi and Bu for Xu). In difficult cases, I use a pendulum to dowse for the same things, and my pendulum reaction nearly always coincides with what I divine from the 12 pulses in the more classical TCM locations: Left Right Deep Sup Sup Deep Cun HT SI LI LU Guan LV GB ST SP Chi KI BL TH PC Best regards, Tel: (H): +353- or (M): +353- WWW: " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " - Chinese Proverb ---------- Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release 03/02/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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