Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. Does any one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for sure is 1-3AM is Liver time. Thanks in advance! Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 1-3 Liver 3-5 Lung 5-7 Large Intestine 7-9 Stomach 9-11 Spleen 11-1 Heart 1-3 Small Intestine 3-5 Bladder 5-7 Kidney 7-9 Pericardium 9-11 Triple Warmer 11-1 Gall Bladder - Barb Chinese Medicine Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:12 AM Clock I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. Does any one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for sure is 1-3AM is Liver time. Thanks in advance! Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Barb wrote: I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. Does any one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for sure is1-3AM is Liver time. > > Some more on Horary Clock: * Each channel runs 120 mts, no more, no less * In that 120 mts qi runs through all 5-Shu points.. For instance LV 1 - 3 AM would be: 01:00 AM to 1:24 AM - Wood on Wood 01:24 AM to 1:48 AM - Fire on Wood 01:48 AM to 2:12 AM - Earth on Wood 02:12 AM to 2:36 AM - Metal on Wood 02:36 AM to 3:00 AM - Water on Wood * In which case a Wood vessel will change characteristics and become 4 other Elements. * Water K between 05:00 PM and 07:00 PM will actually, in part, become Fire. * The sequence of Wood LV-through 24 hours to-Wood GB is immutable, unhangeable. *. The day this sequence changes, Earth will no more as we know it to be. * The Clock runs 4 quarters, tied forever to the Solar chariot: 1st Quarter: 01:00 AM to 07:00 AM 2nd Quarter: 07:00 AM to 01:00 PM 3rd Quarter: 01:00 PM to 07:00 PM 4th Quarter: 07:00 PM to 01:00 AM * In Quarter 1 and 2, there are 2 yin and 1 yang vessels each * In Quarter 3 and 4, there are 2 yang and 1 yin vessels each And so on. Entering muddier water, by the Mother-Son Law, where the Son is neither filial nor tractable, and has fallen into bad company; and the Mother does not come across as anything Motherlike, everything you figured out as " this way " on the conventional Clock, becomes " that way " . Clinically this family spat can be useful, because if you are tending a vessel such as LV, and can't access the patient at an unearthly time of 2 AM without crossing emphatic borders of Conventionality, you can as easily work on that vessel in SI time, which is the exact opposite, 01:00 PM to 03:00 PM. Another instance: If LU qi is Weak, UB will show up with an Excess. To bring LU up to par, one will then reduce UB. I wrote up a pertinent piece, Case of the Disappearing Channels, for the New England Journal of Traditional Medicine. I'll look up the Issue and Volume and post a link. There you'll get more of the Clock than you may actually bargained for :-) Best Dr. Holmes www.acu-free.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Here's something that may help you to remember: Lucky Linda Stores Special Hearts Sideways Underblankets, Kids Pick Small Jawbreakers, Goobers and Licorice Lucky-Lungs-3-5am Linda-Large intestine-5-7am etc. This helped in several situations once you have this memorized. Yin Organs Yang Organs Lucky (LU) 3-5am Linda (LI) 5-7am Special (Sp) 9-11am Stores (ST) 7-9am Hearts (HT) 11-1pm Sideways (SI) 1-3pm Kids (KD) 5-7pm Underblankets (UB) 3-5pm Pick (PC) 7-9pm Small Jawbreakers (SJ) or (TW) 9-11pm Licorice (LV) 1-3am Goobers (GB) 11-1am Brian Joyces <joyces wrote: 1-3 Liver 3-5 Lung 5-7 Large Intestine 7-9 Stomach 9-11 Spleen 11-1 Heart 1-3 Small Intestine 3-5 Bladder 5-7 Kidney 7-9 Pericardium 9-11 Triple Warmer 11-1 Gall Bladder - Barb Chinese Medicine Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:12 AM Clock I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. Does any one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for sure is 1-3AM is Liver time. Thanks in advance! Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Check out recent article at www.acupuncturetoday.com on taoist acupuncture where this actually comes from. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac >Joyces <joyces >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine >Re: Clock >Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:28:44 +0200 > > >1-3 Liver >3-5 Lung >5-7 Large Intestine >7-9 Stomach >9-11 Spleen >11-1 Heart >1-3 Small Intestine >3-5 Bladder >5-7 Kidney >7-9 Pericardium >9-11 Triple Warmer >11-1 Gall Bladder > > - > Barb > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:12 AM > Clock > > > > I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. Does >any > one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for sure is > 1-3AM is Liver time. > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Barbara > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Thank you Dr Keikobad, very enjoyable! Best wishes, Dr. Holem Keikobad [dkaikobad] Friday, 28 January 2005 1:03 AM Chinese Medicine Re: Clock Barb wrote: I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. Does any one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for sure is1-3AM is Liver time. > > Some more on Horary Clock: * Each channel runs 120 mts, no more, no less * In that 120 mts qi runs through all 5-Shu points.. For instance LV 1 - 3 AM would be: 01:00 AM to 1:24 AM - Wood on Wood 01:24 AM to 1:48 AM - Fire on Wood 01:48 AM to 2:12 AM - Earth on Wood 02:12 AM to 2:36 AM - Metal on Wood 02:36 AM to 3:00 AM - Water on Wood * In which case a Wood vessel will change characteristics and become 4 other Elements. * Water K between 05:00 PM and 07:00 PM will actually, in part, become Fire. * The sequence of Wood LV-through 24 hours to-Wood GB is immutable, unhangeable. *. The day this sequence changes, Earth will no more as we know it to be. * The Clock runs 4 quarters, tied forever to the Solar chariot: 1st Quarter: 01:00 AM to 07:00 AM 2nd Quarter: 07:00 AM to 01:00 PM 3rd Quarter: 01:00 PM to 07:00 PM 4th Quarter: 07:00 PM to 01:00 AM * In Quarter 1 and 2, there are 2 yin and 1 yang vessels each * In Quarter 3 and 4, there are 2 yang and 1 yin vessels each And so on. Entering muddier water, by the Mother-Son Law, where the Son is neither filial nor tractable, and has fallen into bad company; and the Mother does not come across as anything Motherlike, everything you figured out as " this way " on the conventional Clock, becomes " that way " . Clinically this family spat can be useful, because if you are tending a vessel such as LV, and can't access the patient at an unearthly time of 2 AM without crossing emphatic borders of Conventionality, you can as easily work on that vessel in SI time, which is the exact opposite, 01:00 PM to 03:00 PM. Another instance: If LU qi is Weak, UB will show up with an Excess. To bring LU up to par, one will then reduce UB. I wrote up a pertinent piece, Case of the Disappearing Channels, for the New England Journal of Traditional Medicine. I'll look up the Issue and Volume and post a link. There you'll get more of the Clock than you may actually bargained for :-) Best Dr. Holmes www.acu-free.com http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. ---------- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 See the files section of this group. There is a TCM clock pic. Direct link: http://f5.grp.fs.com/v1/YGT5QR9rsdDcZ4CVf8EV- ve6goJk6CYm97bUQZn9m9_7eiApbu08_JgQCfNzbJleXJ4GJKiM4iqxxEEGj0uwj4t1mQ 9qov2hGv5kN8k/Pictures/zangfu-time.pdf Attilio Chinese Medicine , " Barb " <bbeale@e...> wrote: > > I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. Does any > one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for sure is > 1-3AM is Liver time. > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Barbara > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Sorry, that didn't work - would you please check the link below? Many thanks in advance! Robert Chu, L.Ac., QME, PhD chusauli See my webpages at: http://www.chusaulei.com > " " <attiliodalberto >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine > Re: Clock >Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:35:24 -0000 > > > >See the files section of this group. There is a TCM clock pic. >Direct link: > >http://f5.grp.fs.com/v1/YGT5QR9rsdDcZ4CVf8EV- >ve6goJk6CYm97bUQZn9m9_7eiApbu08_JgQCfNzbJleXJ4GJKiM4iqxxEEGj0uwj4t1mQ >9qov2hGv5kN8k/Pictures/zangfu-time.pdf > >Attilio > >Chinese Medicine , " Barb " ><bbeale@e...> wrote: > > > > I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. >Does any > > one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for >sure is > > 1-3AM is Liver time. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > Barbara > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 The link is correct. You need to copy and paste the WHOLE link. Otherwise go to the group's files section and find it there. Attilio Chinese Medicine , " Robert Chu " <chusauli@m...> wrote: > > Sorry, that didn't work - would you please check the link below? > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Robert Chu, L.Ac., QME, PhD > chusauli@m... > > See my webpages at: http://www.chusaulei.com > > > > > > " " <attiliodalberto> > >Chinese Medicine > >Chinese Medicine > > Re: Clock > >Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:35:24 -0000 > > > > > > > >See the files section of this group. There is a TCM clock pic. > >Direct link: > > > >http://f5.grp.fs.com/v1/YGT5QR9rsdDcZ4CVf8EV- > >ve6goJk6CYm97bUQZn9m9_7eiApbu08_JgQCfNzbJleXJ4GJKiM4iqxxEEGj0uwj4t1m Q > >9qov2hGv5kN8k/Pictures/zangfu-time.pdf > > > >Attilio > > > >Chinese Medicine , " Barb " > ><bbeale@e...> wrote: > > > > > > I can't find in any of my resources here at work, the TCM clock. > >Does any > > > one know it off the top of their heads? All I can remember for > >sure is > > > 1-3AM is Liver time. > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 More of the Horary Clock: Midday Midnight Relationship: Set 1: On either side of the midnight mark there is, seen clockwise, Wood yang and yin. Set 2: On either side of the midday mark there is, seen clockwise, Fire yin.and yang. Elemental Relationship: Set 1 is the Mother of Set 2, and Set 2 the Son of Set 1 Mother Son Relationship: If Set 1 pair is Deficient, tone Set 2 between 1 to 3 PM. Limitation: If Set 1 yin, LV, is simply Stagnated, one cannot release this using Set 2. Sunrise: On either side of thesunrise mark there is, seen clockwise, LI and ST. 3 Pair Relationship: Both for the Yang Ming pair. Qi & Blood Quantum: Maximal qi with maximal blood. Run time: 5 AM to 9 AM. Transfer point: On face, at sides of the alae nasii. Common face color parameter: Heat in Colon. Common etiology: Bielemental, Fire Xu with Metal Shi. Common lcinical pattern: HT Def with Colon Rising. Treatment protocol: Tone HT with Mother, reduce LI with Son. For every 2-hour pair, clearly indicate Mother-Son points are available. Bunches more, later. Dr. Holmes CEUS by Distance Learning. www.acu-free.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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