Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Hi Feroz! I got your answer long ago, but I would like to ask you some additional questions regarding your treatment protocol below: Why do you not want to bleed the varicosity directly? Why should the patient have an empty stomach when being treated? How long would you expect before seeing any results? According to your experience, what is the course of events after bleeding the patient (bruises and so on..) Looking forward to your answers! Best regards Carl -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: folatib [folatib] Skickat: den 19 november 2004 03:29 Till: Chinese Medicine Ämne: Re: treating varicose veins Hi I have some experiece with varicose veins. I taught a class a year ago on bloodletting techniques anmd its use in TCM. Some of the material was from " Japanese Acupuncture: A Clinical Guide " by Stephen Birch and Junko Ida. Firstly it has to be differentiated. The branch is almost always blood stasis in this condition but the root can be many patterns viz. 1. Spleen qi sinking 2. General Blood stasis 3. Blood vacuity 4. Liver qi stagnation and others depending on the patient's signs and symptoms Whatever the root it should be treated concurrently. As for the varicose veins themselves, there is nothing better than bloodletting if your patient is ready for it. I once had a chinese lecturer who said that bloodletting was 'ten treatments in one' and then she sighed because it is so rarely used in the west. If your patient is willing then you may adopt the following procedure 1. Search for small superficial venules (approximately from 1-7 hairs thickness) close to the varicosity. 2. Swab the area with whatever you use 3. then prick the thickest portion of the venule with a three-edged needle/lancet/surgical blade being careful only to open one side of the venule i.e dont go through the venule making two openings as this will cause a bruise. 4. when done correctly dark, almost black blood should pour out. let it continue pouring without obstructing it until it either stops on its own or the blood changes in color to more reddish fresh blood at which point you should stop it by using a cotton wool or whatever you like to use maintaining proper hygenic procedures. NB: The patient should have this procedure done on an empty stomach, this is very very important. 5. if the patient's constitution is strong you may repeat this procedure at 7-9 places on one visit. 6. if the patient's constitution is not good then do it at 2-3 places and remove only 3-5 drops of blood at each point + burn a little moxa/ or hold a moxa stock over the bled point for a few seconds. 7. Do not bleed the varicosity directly, very NB! 8. You should see the patient about 3 times a week for a few weeks and then do it once a week for another few weeks while combining herbs and other treatment to address the root. Keep in mind the following saying from the sayings from the classics: " if there is stagnation, it should first be moved by bloodletting before acupuncture and moxibustion " " new blood cannot be engendered until old blood is moved " Keep well Feroz http://babel.altavista. <http://babel.altavista.com/> com/ <> and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. <> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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