Healing Crisis v menken/mengen/ming xuan in Kampo

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Hi All, & Z'ev & Robert,

 

Robert wrote:

> The concept of menken/mengen/ming xuan in Kampo medicine dates to

> at least 1771, when Yoshimasu Todo wrote about it in Yakucho

> (Medical Indications).  He alluded to it as being a much older

> concept. By contrast, Hahnemann published his first Organon in

> 1810.

 

Z'ev wrote:

> Interesting, although Todo was quite unique in his approach to

> medicine. He basically denied the theories of yin yang, five

> phases, and most of the classics (except the Shang Han Lun).

> Robert, could you send me the pinyin with tones, or the characters,

> so I can research possible Chinese sources for this concept (ming

> xuan)? Secondly, are you talking about Todo's ideas of expelling

> 'poison' or toxin, and the reactions that occur when this happens?

> Can you quote a few lines from his work? I'm very interested in

> this subject, and would like to know more.

 

WWW suggests that menken/mengen/ming xuan = " vertigo " ,

rather

than " healing crisis " . See: http://tinyurl.com/63mdz

 

 

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wrote:

> > WWW suggests that menken/mengen/ming xuan = " vertigo " ,

> rather

> than " healing crisis " . See: http://tinyurl.com/63mdz

>

 

yes, i wrote a somewhat lengthy reply to Z'ev on ming2 xuan4 and the Wiseman

glossary

and Kanazawa translations with a quote from Kanazawa's article on Yoshimasu Todo

but it

seems to have been lost in the ether somewhere. perhaps like a lost dog it will

return

someday...

 

ming2 xuan4 or mengen literally translated suggests vertigo but it is clear from

writings of

Todo and others in Koho-ha kampo that the meaning in context is closer to the

idea of a

temporary and possibly dramatic aggravation of symptoms perhaps including but

certainly

not limited to vertigo -- e.g., GI sx such as vomiting, diarrhea -- caused by

administration

of treatment, IOW what we in the West would label a healing crisis.

 

rh