Gou Qi Zi for diabetics?

[Guest guest]

Hi Everybody!

 

I have been going through " The Treatment of Diabetes Mellitus With

" (Bob Flaws, Lynn Kuchinski and Robert Casanas, M.D.)

with a fine tooth comb, as the saying goes. I am on page 34 looking at

the section on Gou Qi Zi. There is a note here on this that it has both

hypoglycemic and blood lipid lowering effect.

 

Cross referencing in Materia Medica page 334 (Dan Bensky, Andrew Gamble

with Ted Kaptchuk) I see that 10 grams of this is steamed and taken 2 -

3 times a day for wasting and thirsting in folk medicine.

 

I remember tasting this " wolfberry fruit " in school and thinking it was

as sweet as candy. Seems like with a taste like that it would have more

carbs than the Western Diabetes " experts " would ever allow. Worse than

that, I think any diabetic I personally know would take one taste of the

stuff and immediately eat the whole package - well, heck, if it is good

for you and tastes like this . . .

 

Have any of you used this with a real-world diabetic patient, and if so,

what was the outcome? Thanks in advance for any insights.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Dear Pete,

 

Thanks for bringing this up. I have recently been wondering this myself!

 

Regards

 

Nadia

 

Nadia Brydon MNIMH, MRCHM, Dip Ac. MAR. BRCP

The Natural Health Clinic

London SW1V 3PW

email: nadia

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Pete Theisen

Chinese Medicine

Monday, December 13, 2004 5:48 AM

Gou Qi Zi for diabetics?

 

 

 

Hi Everybody!

 

I have been going through " The Treatment of Diabetes Mellitus With

" (Bob Flaws, Lynn Kuchinski and Robert Casanas, M.D.)

with a fine tooth comb, as the saying goes. I am on page 34 looking at

the section on Gou Qi Zi. There is a note here on this that it has both

hypoglycemic and blood lipid lowering effect.

 

Cross referencing in Materia Medica page 334 (Dan Bensky, Andrew Gamble

with Ted Kaptchuk) I see that 10 grams of this is steamed and taken 2 -

3 times a day for wasting and thirsting in folk medicine.

 

I remember tasting this " wolfberry fruit " in school and thinking it was

as sweet as candy. Seems like with a taste like that it would have more

carbs than the Western Diabetes " experts " would ever allow. Worse than

that, I think any diabetic I personally know would take one taste of the

stuff and immediately eat the whole package - well, heck, if it is good

for you and tastes like this . . .

 

Have any of you used this with a real-world diabetic patient, and if so,

what was the outcome? Thanks in advance for any insights.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Hi...

 

> I remember tasting this " wolfberry fruit " in

> school and thinking it was

> as sweet as candy. Seems like with a taste like

> that it would have more

> carbs than the Western Diabetes " experts " would

> ever allow. Worse than

> that, I think any diabetic I personally know would

> take one taste of the

> stuff and immediately eat the whole package -

 

Yeah but diabetes doesn't exist except as a western

medical term. Gou Qi Zi is used for treating liver and

kidney blood / yin deficiency. When someone with

'diabetes' presents with liv/kid blood/yin deficiency,

then one should use Gou Qi Zi in combination with the

other herbs that the pattern indicates.

Keep in mind that, in , there is no

correspondence to 'diabetes'. There is some overlap

between what is known as wasting-thirsting, yin

deficiency and even yang deficiency. If we wish to use

CM to its potential we must make sure to differentiate

patterns and apply tx according to the differentiated

pattern.

 

And as far as your last question, I have never tried

gou qi zi by itself on any patient. I have used it in

formulas and the results are good if I am able to work

in concert with the patient.

 

Bye,

Hugo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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