Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 my teacher taught me to use sterilized cotton in order to avoid direct contact between the needle and fingers.she said though we have washed our hands,but our hands are not 100% sterile.later i see that a lot of senior acupuncturists dont follow this hygiene procedure. my question is:is it enough just washing our with soap and alcohol then we can handle the needle body directly? thanks for your opinions and comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 How many people have had an infection from a practitioner touching the AP needle? I really think that this is too much. I personally want to actually hold the AP needle rather than use a guide tube, but I believe that this goes against sterilisation regulation, does it not? Kind regards Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM 07786198900 attiliodalberto <http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com xmhhhh [xmhhhh] 02 December 2004 11:11 Chinese Medicine acupuncture hygiene my teacher taught me to use sterilized cotton in order to avoid direct contact between the needle and fingers.she said though we have washed our hands,but our hands are not 100% sterile.later i see that a lot of senior acupuncturists dont follow this hygiene procedure. my question is:is it enough just washing our with soap and alcohol then we can handle the needle body directly? thanks for your opinions and comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I think that westerns have a serious panic about microbiae. Almost NOTHING is 100% sterile! And we don't survive in an sterile environment. Gilberto Antônio Silva _______________________ Longevidade.Net Saúde e Qualidade de Vida www.longevidade.net ______________________ - xmhhhh Chinese Medicine Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:11 AM acupuncture hygiene my teacher taught me to use sterilized cotton in order to avoid direct contact between the needle and fingers.she said though we have washed our hands,but our hands are not 100% sterile.later i see that a lot of senior acupuncturists dont follow this hygiene procedure. my question is:is it enough just washing our with soap and alcohol then we can handle the needle body directly? thanks for your opinions and comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Thu, 02 Dec 2004 11:11:16 -0000, " xmhhhh " <xmhhhh wrote: > My teacher taught me to use sterilized cotton in order to avoid direct contact between the needle and fingers She said though we have washed our hands, but our hands are not 100% sterile. Later i see that a lot of senior acupuncturists don't follow this hygiene procedure. my question is: is it enough just washing our with soap and alcohol then we can handle the needle body directly? Standard procedure ( " Clean needle technique " ) in the USA, last I heard, includes: a) hands washed thoroughly with soap and warm water -> " clean " hands; or, as I do in one room without a sink, wipe/clean hands with a " sani-wipe " type cloth. (and after, don't touch anything but cotton, needles, patient etc. - not your own clothes, not wiping your runny nose, your hair, door handles, light switches, etc.) b) needle shaft should never be touched by fingers; if inserting by hand (not tube), grasp needle shaft using a small piece of " clean " cotton. In practice, this all is rarely carried out to the letter, but usually with a good common sense respect that maintains adequate cleanliness, hence very little risk. Exception: treating patients with highly infectious conditions, or in hospital settings, and often rubber/latex gloves are standard. In the early 1990s, the terminology shifted a little, from emphasis on the terms " sterile " (applying to things, instruments, surfaces, etc.) and " disinfected " (applying to living tissue, i.e. hands, points on patient, etc.), to a more relaxed (and realistic) usage of " clean " . One no longer had to have a sterile field (paper table area cover), but just a clean piece of paper towel. No longer sterile cotton balls, but just clean (out of the bag). Needles must be initially sterile, but as soon as the package is opened, the needle exposed to air, it's no longer sterile, but rather " clean " . Using cotton and alcohol to wipe the point position on the patient was no longer " disinfecting " , but just cleaning (dirt, sweat, etc.). Acupuncture needles may introduce foreign substances into the flesh with insertion (stuff from the air, friendly flora from the patient's skin, etc.), but not to a large extent. Not comparable to what syringes or catheters can and do take in with them. Recently I noted a news item in the New York Times Science section: While the human body is currently thought to consist of some 10 trillion cells, an average human body is host to some 100 trillion (10 times as many!) cells of parasitical microbes ( " friendly flora " ), in some 600 varieties. I don't know about Europe, China etc., but in the USA, " antibacterial " soap is all the rage, used in public bathrooms (WCs), sold in stores for home use, etc. But all the medical and/or scientific reports I've seen agree that this is purely marketing. Antibacterial or antimicrobial soap in everyday usage has absolutely no advantage in terms of disease prevention. AND it kills friendly flora, makes the skin more sensitive to ultraviolet radiation, and likely encourages bacterial mutation in the direction of drug resistance. All the medical/scientific sources recommend good hand washing with plenty of soap and warm/hot water. (As is also recommended in the preparation of minor skin injuries for bandaging.) Exception: situations in medical and biological laboratories and research facilities, where sterilization and disinfecting are serious priorities. BTW: The common staphylococcus (spelling?) bacteria has recently become drug-resistant throughout the USA. Common ordinary infections are now potentially dangerous. Doctors and hospitals are being reeducated to diagnosis carefully, and use special, higher-power antibiotic drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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