Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 , " mischievous00 " <mischievous00> wrote: > The complaint noted despite the product's labeling denoting it as > a " traditional Asian herbal formulation, " it is considered a dietary > supplement because the labeling includes a " Supplement Facts " panel > and the dietary supplement disclaimer. This is bizarre. It is illegal to produce and sell such a product in the US without this disclaimer. All legal authroties agree that that the FDA ephedra rule did not exempt patents from this rule and also did NOT create a exempt class of Traditional Asian medicines. The AHPA keeps pushing this line becasue they are a lobby for the interests of manufacturers, NOT consumers and NOT practitioners. Why would their interests be any different than any other corporate lobbyist. Since their position conflicts with independent legal opinions, I tend to dismiss all quotes from this org as self-serving corporate propaganda. In fact, the FDA has also quietly blocked the import of both ban and ephedra containing products for a number of companies selling chinese herbs for traditional uses. Also, claims on the Web site > for VITERA-XT, including using the product to treat allergies, > angina and flu, make the product an unapproved and misbranded drug. this is a serious matter and was probably the main reason for the action. but what follows below is just outrageous. Did mcguffin even read the complaint against this company. They were NOT making weight loss claims. They were selling is as a traditional asian remedy and they complied with the actual law regarding supplement labeling. Many companies that you do business with are also guilty of thes exact same things. Look on your shelves. Do you have recently purchased chinese herbal products that have supplement labeling and disclaimers on them - beware if you don't, you are not protected against liability related to your prescription of such products. In addition, do any of these products have information on their manufacturer's websites that discuss the use of these products for western named diseases or symptoms. finally, regardless of the manufacturer's intent, is it a simple matter for a layperson to obtain such products. I think you will find the answer to all three questions is yes. I think if you give it any thought, you will also realize there is no way to enforce any of these things with the ubiquity of the internet. So if the issue is public safety, the ONLY way to prevent the public from getting their hands on such products is to ban them outright. Now that the election is over and their is no fear of offending interest groups (such as asian importers, who are overwhelmingly republican), I bet we will see stepped up enforcement. Its no surpise this happened just 3 weeks after elction day. Keep in mind I am not advocating such a ban. I just think you all are dead wrong and sticking our heads in the sand for the past year on this matter is now biting us in the butts. We need to lobby for a real exemption, not one that has no legal standing, but is rather enforced at the whims of politics and favoritism. > At the time, Michael McGuffin, > president of the American Herbal Products Association (AHPA), called the move both " timely and > appropriate. " " FDA made clear in its final rule on ephedrine > alkaloids that 'traditional Asian medicines' containing ephedrine > alkaloids would not be covered by the rule, " he said. " In > conversations with AHPA and its Chinese Herbal Products Committee, > FDA has made clear to traditional practitioners and manufacturers of > these traditional products that the rule would be enforced against > anyone marketing such products for weight loss. Thus, FDA's action > comes as no surprise to AHPA, and legitimate manufacturers of > traditional Asian medicines have nothing to fear from this action. > Indeed, FDA's action protects the integrity of those who manufacture > and prescribe products that are truly traditional. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Talked to a Chinese inmporter of powdered Chinese medicinal extracts recently. Asked him how he was. First thing he said that he was having real problems with Customs not releasing his formulas. His packaging is not FDA compliant in terms of DSHEA. In other words, he's not selling his formulas (which are all traditional standards) as dietary supplements. He only sells to practitioners and does not have a Website. Yet his goods are still being embargoed. The idea that there is any loop-hole for traditional ready-made Chinese medicines is simply not true, as Todd has pointed out. If such a loop-hole exists, it's only for bulk-dispensed Chinese meds, but no ready-made meds, including powdered extracts without a supplement information panel. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 FDA Seizes Ephedra Supplements --- ----------- Posted on: 11/24/2004 HOUSTON--At the behest of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the Texas Department of State Health Services embargoed more than 2.1 million tablets of an ephedra-containing dietary supplement from a company based here. A complaint filed by the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Texas in U.S. District Court charged Asia MedLabs Inc. with marketing VITERA-XT™ in violation of the federal ban on ephedra-containing dietary supplements, as well as making claims positioning the product as an unapproved or misbranded drug. In a statement, Tommy G. Thompson, secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, said the government would not tolerate marketing of such dietary supplements. Added Lester Crawford, Ph.D., FDA's acting commissioner, " We've issued a rule banning ephedra- containing products and we're sparing no effort to stop their manufacture and distribution. If any of these dietary supplements are still on the store shelves, I urge the retailers to stop selling them immediately. " The complaint noted despite the product's labeling denoting it as a " traditional Asian herbal formulation, " it is considered a dietary supplement because the labeling includes a " Supplement Facts " panel and the dietary supplement disclaimer. Also, claims on the Web site for VITERA-XT, including using the product to treat allergies, angina and flu, make the product an unapproved and misbranded drug. On its Web site (www.asiamedlabs.com), Asia MedLabs posted information on FDA's ephedra ban, noting " FDA exempted Traditional Asian medicines containing ephedrine alkaloids. … Comments also asserted that Ephedra in Traditional Asian formulae is usually combined with other botanicals that typically modify Ephedra's inherent stimulant effects. (So very true!) VITERA-XT contains Aimisu Grass, the best buffer available! " It also calls the product a " remarkable blend of natural herbs " that has been used by Chinese herbalists for " generations. " At press time, Asia MedLabs had not responded to INSIDER's request for comment on the situation. When the ephedra ban was implemented in April, 2004, FDA (www.fda.gov) did include language exempting preparations based on Traditional s (TCMs), as the products are intended for episodic rather than chronic use. At the time, Michael McGuffin, president of the American Herbal Products Association (AHPA), noted this could represent a potential " loophole " in the regulatory system, provided marketers are selling products as TCMs and not dietary supplements. When contacted for comment on FDA's action against Asia MedLabs, he called the move both " timely and appropriate. " " FDA made clear in its final rule on ephedrine alkaloids that 'traditional Asian medicines' containing ephedrine alkaloids would not be covered by the rule, " he said. " In conversations with AHPA and its Chinese Herbal Products Committee, FDA has made clear to traditional practitioners and manufacturers of these traditional products that the rule would be enforced against anyone marketing such products for weight loss. Thus, FDA's action comes as no surprise to AHPA, and legitimate manufacturers of traditional Asian medicines have nothing to fear from this action. Indeed, FDA's action protects the integrity of those who manufacture and prescribe products that are truly traditional. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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