Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Incidentally, AAOM also supports the ABC codes and has availability to members, like Richards group. The goal is to represent our members and to gain access to patients for them. ABC is certainly a great way to do it, as is the CPT process, presently. We hope to expand on the codes we now have available, as other fields have done. I personally laud Richards work, and the work of any others in his organization, as we all work towards what will be the future of our profession. Acupuncture is truly but a small part of it, but it is our foot in the door. David Molony In a message dated 11/28/04 11:43:44 PM, acudoc11 writes: > > Doc > > If you REALLY want to know the truth then spend the .02 of your time and > look > with your own eyes. It has been spoken about for years and while many like > to > play the 'prove it to me' game......they will be left in the dust when it > settles. > > As for a workable (not perfect) set of codes built for ALL of CAM (with a > special and sizeable section for Ap/OM) go and research for yourself the ABC > Codes and find out what you are missing. > > Like Alternative Link who designed this innovative 4,000 CAM coding system > and fought the system including the AMA/CPT and now which sits at the edge > of a > new era in the US about ready for US Government approval.....AOMNC with its > supposed 'tiny' membership has been at the forefront in moving forward a US > Federal Acupuncture Bill AND also sits at the forefront of 'being doers' by > having > filed the first Anti-trust Racketeering lawsuit against ten of the largest > HMOs in the US. > > Do you really expect people who have known me for years to buy into a late > comer calling what we have accomplished as..... wishful thinking? Lets stop > trying to pull everyone's leg by these ludicrous statements. > > You are a big boy...right? No one especially me...needs to hold your hand > through the logical exercise of comparative analysis. > > Richard > > > > > > In a message dated 11/28/2004 1:53:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Doc writes: > > Richard, > My .02 > > We are presented with a reality that -wishful thinking aside -says that we > need to fit into their system (the one that has been in place for insurance > billing since before the first Ac license was issued in the US) and not > expect > them to change to suit us. > I am not a fan of the AAOM but saying that they have sold out is simply not > true -in this case. > > This is called a foot in the door and those of us who say *I won't play > until they invite me all the way in as an equal partner* are going to grow > old > waiting outside. > I will use this imperfect foot in the door to help my patients who otherwise > could not afford health care. > > Is your argument about which set of numbers we use? > Great, present exactly what your codes mean and all of the details as the > AAOM folks just did. No tirades, no propaganda just present the cold hard > facts > and let us compare them. > Set the numbers side by side and let us look at the pros and cons. > > Insurance codes by their very nature reduce us all to a set of cold > unfeeling > numbers. It is the same system that has created a thousand other inequities > of which this is but a minor example. 3000 children die every day from > hunger > while the US and UK and EU each throw away enough food daily to feed them > extravagantly. Millions in the US have no access to health care and an > almost > equal per capita rate exists in Europe. If that and the system that create > such > thinking are what you are upset about then lets get together and bring the > change. > > Doc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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