Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 it seems that this pair play a supreme part in the equilibrium of the Body/mind. can anyone advise any good works to study or throw some light on this? thankyou very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Try the " Treatise on the Spleen and Stomach " by Li Dong-yuan, translated by Bob Flaws, published by Blue Poppy Press. On Nov 21, 2004, at 7:31 AM, nellshania wrote: > > > it seems that this pair play a supreme part in the equilibrium of > the Body/mind. can anyone advise any good works to study or throw > some light on this? > thankyou very much > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Thankyou for that,i will look it up.- -- In Chinese Medicine , " " <zrosenbe@s...> wrote: > Try the " Treatise on the Spleen and Stomach " by Li Dong-yuan, > translated by Bob Flaws, published by Blue Poppy Press. > > > On Nov 21, 2004, at 7:31 AM, nellshania wrote: > > > > > > > it seems that this pair play a supreme part in the equilibrium of > > the Body/mind. can anyone advise any good works to study or throw > > some light on this? > > thankyou very much > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 If you read the text more careful, Steve, You will see that Li Dongyuan doesn't list malnutrition as the major cause of spleen qi vacuity. He lists taxation as the major cause. This includes food taxation (caused by irregular eating patterns), emotional taxation (stress ), lack of rest, overwork, and bedroom taxation (exhaustive sexual activity). All of these factors are common in modern practice. Irregular eating patterns are common; too many sweets, eating at odd hours, eating on the run, and conditions such as anorexia and bulemia. The conditions you describe, such as burnout, depression, lack of energy can appear in patients with patterns such as kidney yin vacuity, liver qi depression, but these patients may also concurrently have spleen qi vacuity. A patient with a complex condition may have all of these patterns at the same time. In my opinion, the major strength of the Pi Wei Lun is in teaching how to treat patients with complex multi-pattern scenarios that seem contradictory and hard to resolve. That is most patients today with chronic illness. On Jun 2, 2005, at 2:57 AM, Stefan wrote: > One thing for example in todays societies Piwei xu due to malnutrition > is quite rare isn't it? So does it still make sense to tonify that > much? Especially tonifying spleen and kidney.I don't see much > neccessity whatsoever for most patients even when deficient to use all > the tonifiers, especially Ginseng and the like. They often appear in > bad spirits, depressed, burned out, energy-less,but not deficient, it > is just that their Fu Organs are overloaded all the way down, making > them lazy, containing too much load to bowl properly. It seems more to > be important to clear all the rubbish out first, make sure that when > the stomach gets full, the small intestine is empty, and when the > stomach has passed on the well 'prepared food to the small intestine, > it stays empty for a while, to maintain all Fu organs well > functioning. > ( the xu shi thing of the Neijing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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