Location and needling of Taichong-LV03 and Yongquan-KI01

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Hi Attilio,

 

> I ... puncture Liv3-Taichong towards towards Ki 1-Yongquan. More

> chance of hitting the point. I think this is what Doc means.

> Attilio

 

I asked the question because some texts are NOT specific as to

between which metatarsals (MTs) KI01 lies, and a few WWW

sources place KI01 between MTs 1 and 2. IMO, the latter location

is not correct.

 

I needle LV03 and KI01 at 90 degrees to the skin.

 

I place LV03-Taichong in the gap 0.5-1.0 " distal to the junction of

MTs 1-2. I needle it carefully from the foot dorsum so as not to

penetrate the superficial vein that runs close to the point. I have

never failed to elicit strong Deqi in that way.

 

I locate KI01 deep between MTs 2-3. I needle it (but only rarely - it

is a painful point for most subjects!) from the foot sole.

 

One could angle the needle from the SKIN location of LV03

towards the SKIN location of KI01.

 

However, if they are in two different inter-MT spaces (LV03 deep

between MTs 1-2, and KI01 deep between MTs 2-3), I do not see

how one could penetrate from the deep location of LV03 through to

that of KI01.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I hope this doesn't seem naive, but I've never understood why someone

would want to needle two points like this with one needle. Why not

just needle both points?

 

Laura

 

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<@e...> wrote:

> Hi Attilio,

>

> > I ... puncture Liv3-Taichong towards towards Ki 1-Yongquan. More

> > chance of hitting the point. I think this is what Doc means.

> > Attilio

>

> I asked the question because some texts are NOT specific as to

> between which metatarsals (MTs) KI01 lies, and a few WWW

> sources place KI01 between MTs 1 and 2. IMO, the latter location

> is not correct.

>

> I needle LV03 and KI01 at 90 degrees to the skin.

>

> I place LV03-Taichong in the gap 0.5-1.0 " distal to the junction of

> MTs 1-2. I needle it carefully from the foot dorsum so as not to

> penetrate the superficial vein that runs close to the point. I have

> never failed to elicit strong Deqi in that way.

>

> I locate KI01 deep between MTs 2-3. I needle it (but only rarely - it

> is a painful point for most subjects!) from the foot sole.

>

> One could angle the needle from the SKIN location of LV03

> towards the SKIN location of KI01.

>

> However, if they are in two different inter-MT spaces (LV03 deep

> between MTs 1-2, and KI01 deep between MTs 2-3), I do not see

> how one could penetrate from the deep location of LV03 through to

> that of KI01.

>

>

>

> Best regards,

>