RE: Acupuncture Meridian System, Energetic Body, and Chakras RE: Attilio

[Guest guest]

Hi Attilio

 

The first thing I would say is according to you the three parts are body, mind &

spirit, in my opinion mind and spirit are nearlly the same word in two different

contexts. The word spirit is a more broad term than mind as mind has a very

material conotation. According to the book the three parts are Body, Energy &

Spirit. Energy is a general term for the body's physical energy system. By

saying that all three are connected is merely pointing out the three main

factors involved, of course their will be more refined details. For example the

body has alot of details but we can still use the term body as a general

statement. For this reason we can use the general term energy to explain both

the aura and meridians as we are only trying to explain the general rule.The

general should show the general relationship between the main factors.

 

Cheers Kenneth

 

Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto wrote:

Hi Kenneth,

 

This is a very simplified view of looking at the whole body and the whole

array of healing arts. Yes, of course there are three parts, the body, mind

and spirit. But you cannot club together meridians with auras. They are very

different levels and are affected and balanced by very different methods of

treatment. Unification books are great, for theory that is, but in reality

they do not work. In theory, everything is One, you don't need a book to

understand that. But in day to day life, we live in a specialised world,

where everyone has a specialised job, career and illness. Life and theories

are like a cascade. They trickle down the theory of oneness to everyday

life. Don't get mixed up between, they are so so different and cannot we

worked together unless you have a very experienced and extremely detailed

understanding of the various levels and how to affect them.

 

As for chakras being acupressure/acupoints, I don't think so. Like I said

before, different energy systems.

 

Attilio

 

 

 

Kenneth Travis [traviskenneth]

08 November 2004 05:45

Chinese Medicine

Re: Acupuncture Meridian System, Energetic Body, and Chakras

 

 

 

Hi

 

If you look at the chakras they are based on acupressure points, the chakras

in my opinion are a simplified theory of the TCM energy system. However TCM

is far more evolved due to its look history and records. I recently read

that Unification book that everyone is argueing about and he stated it in a

very simple and common sense way.He said their are only 3 parts, BODY,

ENERGY & SPIRIT(or Mind). You have the physical body, then you have the

physical energy (aura, meridians). Then you have the mind or spirit or soul

part, call it what you will according to your beliefs. The author said he

believes the spirit is eternal but this is another debate. He believes the

spirit is another form of energy (non physical), the theory works no matter

what your beliefs. So according to this you can say all treatment either

work on the body, energy & spirit. All three are connected and inseperable,

I believe this simple principle can explain nearlly any treatment very

clearly. Either you are working

on the mental aspect, the energy system or on the physical body, it is

common sense to see how all three affect each other. So people tell me what

do you think of this concept, personally its simple and I like it.

 

Cheers Kenneth

 

Rich <rfinkelstein wrote:

 

 

Hi Attilio,

 

> I think that they work on different levels of 'energy' and although

>they are linked together, they are not TCM. TCM is quite separate and

>should remain that way so we may endeavour to understand each

>'energy' section of the dynamic body. Mixing them altogether just

>gets everyone confused, dilutes our tradition and so on.

>

> Attilio

 

For me they are exactly the same - like musical instruments. Whether

it is a piano, violin, or harpsicord, it is all about " playing music "

(strumming and creating vibrations), and each instrument can either be

played seperately or together in harmony. Both approaches can be quite

beautiful and neither has an edge over the other. I love all kinds of

concerts. :-)

 

Regards,

Rich

[Guest guest]

Again,

Having not read the book it is hard to have a precise opinion, but

this type of generalist talk, if it truly represents the book, does no

one a service. Already in our field there is widespread confusion

about terms and concepts such as energy, and confusion about the

relationship of channels and network vessels to 'energy fields'.

Energy in physics is a very specific term, and using it in such a fuzzy

manner only creates more confusion, especially when using it as a

definition for qi.

 

 

On Nov 10, 2004, at 8:23 PM, manu hamlin wrote:

 

> Energy is a general term for the body's physical energy system. By

> saying that all three are connected is merely pointing out the three

> main factors involved, of course their will be more refined details.

> For example the body has alot of details but we can still use the term

> body as a general statement. For this reason we can use the general

> term energy to explain both the aura and meridians as we are only

> trying to explain the general rule.The general should show the general

> relationship between the main factors.

>

>