Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Hi everyone, First, I hoped for comments and suggestions on a case I'm working on. I am in the middle of my final year of study at Dongguk Royal University (hi Thomas :> I wondered when you graduated from the school...?) and could use some clarification on TCM pattern discrimination and therefore formula prescriptions. I'm focusing my efforts at the moment on herbs and formulas as the complexity and degree of knowledge for effective treatment is vast. Here is the real-life case: CASE: 56 Year old Man CC: Hemorrhoids for 10 years, off and on. Has had anal fissures. None currently. Complains of constipation off and on. Worse with stress. Digestion very sensitive. Has to watch food. Diet is good – no red meat, no spicy foods, no alcohol, lots of cooked vegetables. If eats something too heavy, gets gas. Ongoing chronic benign tremors of hands. Hypertension, but taking medication so mostly controlled. Irritable. Angers relatively easily and yells when angry, otherwise very sweet man. Tongue: red tip, sides. Coating slightly thick, thicker in back. Can’t tell color (diagnosis over phone..). Hemorrhoids protrude out, with bleeding. Itchy, burning. Pulse: can't tell, diagnosis over the phone. My Diagnosis: Disharmony of Liver and Spleen. Liver Qi stagnation overacting on Spleen. Constrained Liver Qi causing damp heat, traveling down to anus and Liver Yang Rising (hypertension). More heat than damp. Stirring of Liver wind. Treatment Principle: Course Liver Qi, clear heat and damp. Tonify Spleen Qi. (should I add, subdue Liver Yang and extinguish wind?) Formula: Xiao Yao San + Zhi Tong Ru Shen Tang Jia Wei (formula I got from Bob Flaws book) Di Yu 9g Huai Huai Mi 9g Bai Zhu 9g Huang Bai 9g Dang Gui 9g Bing Lang 9g (Instructor told me this herb too strong) Fang Feng 6g Ze Xie 6g Da Huang 6g Qin Jiao 6g (Instructor told me this herb isn't right for this patient..) Tao Ren 6g Chai Hu (? Hypertension!) 9g (Instructor told me Chuan Lian Zi would be better choice) Bai Shao 20g Fu Ling 9g Gan Cao (can contribute to increase in blood pressure, but instructor told me 3g would be ok) Bo He 6g Sheng Jiang 2 slices (instructor told me would aggrevate stomach since warm) Should I add herbs to extinguish wind, for the tremors, or is tonifying Liver Yin good enough? Or will it get too complex? Focus on just the chief complaint? Does this formula sound good for this patient? Any other suggestions? Xiao Yao San is no longer Xiao Yao San if you take away the chief herb, right? So will the synergy of the formula still work? GAH! Help! Any comments on when all this TCM knowledge truly gels? I'm one of the top students at my school, I work hard, fast learner. Confused and frustrated and hoping for some support, Thanks in advance for any comments.. Nadia _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 East Dakota wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > First, I hoped for comments and suggestions on a case I'm working on. > Hi Nadia! Is it possible for you to *see* your patient in your student clinic or whatever? Pulse and tongue are important, maybe more important than anything else. I never diagnose over the phone. In Florida students have to see their patient's under some supervision, depending on how far along they are. If it is the student's first patient the supervisor will most likely be in the room, more experienced students, the supervisor will be elsewhere but still available. Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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