Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 joining in on this conversation a little late, so sorry if I repeat anything already said.... but I just heard yesterday in my Wen Bing class that urine of boys under age 7 was historically used as a kind of 'antibiotic' - to relieve heat and toxicity. Also, the fluid which collects on top of human feces (any age) after a day or two of being shut in a box was also used for same type of 'antibiotic' effect. final tidbit...human feces was used (still is used?) in the countryside of China as an antidote for women who try to commit suicide by ingesting insecticides who are in a coma. Apparently it can induce vomiting even if the person is in a coma. --RoseAnne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Hi everybody, Slightly tangentially, I wanted to ask about the point which was made some time ago - unfortunately by whom I can't recall :-( - about peeing on acupuncture needles to sterilise them. Obviously, I realise that this point was made as a rhetorical device and none of us would really go around urinating on our equipment to sterilise it! Somehow, though, the topic has captured my imagination and that of my friends...ahem... I know that urine is sterile, but I always thought that, far from being a disinfectant, it is actually quite a nutritious culture medium. The BBC is currently broadcasting a TV programme about the history of Venice, and in a recent episode some of the characters were shown using urine to bleach their hair, so it is of course entirely possible that this bleaching property may also operate as a disinfectant property. Does anyone have any further information that may cast light on the subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 It was I who first made that comment. Urine has been used throughout our history. The Romans used it to wash clothes, later solders used it to sterilise wounds. Buddhists drink the first urination of the day to watch and see what's happening inside their bodies (my wife practised this for a number of years). And of course, baby urine is used in TCM. I don't advocate the use of urine to sterilise acupuncture needles, this was more of a tongue-in-cheek comment. Attilio pfenguinpseal [Harp] 04 November 2004 11:47 Chinese Medicine Urine as a sterilising fluid Hi everybody, Slightly tangentially, I wanted to ask about the point which was made some time ago - unfortunately by whom I can't recall :-( - about peeing on acupuncture needles to sterilise them. Obviously, I realise that this point was made as a rhetorical device and none of us would really go around urinating on our equipment to sterilise it! Somehow, though, the topic has captured my imagination and that of my friends...ahem... I know that urine is sterile, but I always thought that, far from being a disinfectant, it is actually quite a nutritious culture medium. The BBC is currently broadcasting a TV programme about the history of Venice, and in a recent episode some of the characters were shown using urine to bleach their hair, so it is of course entirely possible that this bleaching property may also operate as a disinfectant property. Does anyone have any further information that may cast light on the subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 FYI. Some may be surprised but Qian Jin Bei Ji Yao Fang by Sun Si Miao of Tang Dynasty recorded a lot of these types of treatment. ra6151 wrote: joining in on this conversation a little late, so sorry if I repeat anything already said.... but I just heard yesterday in my Wen Bing class that urine of boys under age 7 was historically used as a kind of 'antibiotic' - to relieve heat and toxicity. Also, the fluid which collects on top of human feces (any age) after a day or two of being shut in a box was also used for same type of 'antibiotic' effect. final tidbit...human feces was used (still is used?) in the countryside of China as an antidote for women who try to commit suicide by ingesting insecticides who are in a coma. Apparently it can induce vomiting even if the person is in a coma. --RoseAnne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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