Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Hi All, & Matt, Matt Bauer wrote: > When I replied to Attilio's message, I had no yet read Phil's. I > also think we should be using single-use disposable needles. That > is all that I use even though this is not required by my state > (California). Phil is right about the difficulty in Prion > eradication - they are scary phenomenon. I disagree though with > his general claim that autoclaving will not render viruses > non-infectious. Matt, I accept that careful autoclaving with well maintained equipment, destroys most, if not all, known viruses. However, mistakes can occur and some autoclaves are not maintained / run properly. Also, see this: Espy MJ, Uhl JR, Sloan LM, Rosenblatt JE, Cockerill FR 3rd, Smith TF. Detection of vaccinia virus, herpes simplex virus, varicella-zoster virus, and Bacillus anthracis DNA by LightCycler polymerase chain reaction after autoclaving: implications for biosafety of bioterrorism agents. Mayo Clin Proc. 2002 Jul;77(7):624-8. Division of Clinical Microbiology, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN 55905, USA. OBJECTIVE: To determine whether autoclaving suspensions of vaccinia virus, herpes simplex virus (HSV), varicella-zoster virus (VZV), and Bacillus anthracis inactivate infectivity of these agents but allow detection of target DNA by LightCycler polymerase chain reaction (PCR). MATERIAL AND METHODS: Swabs were inserted into tubes containing serial 10-fold dilutions (10(-1) to 10(-5); 500 microL; 6 samples per dilution) of vaccinia virus, HSV, VZV, or a single suspension of 10(8) colony-forming units of B anthracis (2 samples). One half of the samples were autoclaved, and the remainder were not. An aliquot of each not autoclaved sample served as a control for infectivity. RESULTS: Autoclaving swabs saturated with suspensions of vaccinia virus, HSV, or VZV eliminated the infectivity of these agents; however, DNA was detectable in most autoclaved samples in dilutions of 10(-1) to 10(-4) by LightCycler PCR. All not autoclaved specimens were detected by culture (infectivity) except for VZV and, in most dilutions of 10(-1) to 10(-3), by assay of target DNA by LightCycler PCR. Similarly positive results were obtained for PCR assessment of sporulated B anthracis. CONCLUSIONS: Standard autoclaving procedures eliminated the infectivity of viruses (and B anthracis), but target DNA was often retained for detection by LightCycler PCR. Current recommendations indicate that the laboratory diagnosis of smallpox virus infection be performed only within Biosafety Level 4 facilities. We suggest that, in addition to the requirement for immediate coordination with public health officials, the federal government consider expanding the existing guidelines for processing these specimens to encourage immediate collection, autoclaving, and testing by LightCycler PCR to differentiate smallpox virus from other dermal pathogens such as HSV and VZV by specific qualified laboratories. PMID: 12108599 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] My point is that AIDS, hepatitis and prion diseases are common. Carriers may not be recognised if they present for acupuncture in the pre- or sub- clinical stage. Therefore, the risk of cross-infecting patients by needle re-use (sfter inadequate sterilisation) is very REAL. Why take the risk when cheap, disposable needles are available? Why leave our profession open to public criticism on that score? > While I support the concept of only using single-use > pre-sterilized disposable needles, I think we should be careful > not to overstate the danger that might come with properly > sterilizing acupuncture needles. Acupuncture needles are likely > the most easily sterilized type to medical equipment imaginable. A > very thin, solid metal wire. The vast majority of problems > (failures) historically associated with sterilization of medical > equipment has been due to the desire of users to find the minimum > time and temperature so as to not wear out the equipment too soon > because of cost. The accepted time a! nd pressure standard for > autoclaves is 15 pounds of pressure for 15 minutes. In California, > we set a standard of 30 pounds for 30 minutes - essentially making > it four times the accepted standard. The second most common > problem with autoclaving failures has to do with the difficulties > associated with the physical cleaning that should proceed the > autoclaving process. Equipment that has complex, irregular > surfaces (like dental drills) are difficult to clean before > autoclaving. A solid acupuncture needle has no place for matter to > accumulate except the region where the shaft meets the handle. The > use of ultra-sonic cleaning devices (such as a jewelry cleaner) > knocks trapped matter free so that autoclaving will then be quite > effective. Of course, there are things that can go wrong with the > autoclave or the manner in which it is used, but most all of these > mistakes can be caught by using the right type to autoclaving > testing device. The newer generations of these devices are remar! > kably accurate. My bottom line here is that any properly > autoclaved acupuncture needle poses much less of a health risk > than virtually every bit of dental equipment and many other > devices used in many fields of healthcare. While I agree > acupuncturists should avoid all concerns by using single-use > pre-sterilized disposable needles, we should also put our > equipment into their proper perspective within the realm of > medical devices. Matt Bauer I accept that cleaning and re-sterilisation of AP needles are much easier that for drapes and other hospital equipment. But we should NOT simply follow " accepted hospital procedures " . Many medical instruments are expensive and disposal after a single use is not a practical option when hospital budgets are tight. Some years ago, a confidential report to the UK Government from the Expert Group on TSE recommended destruction after a single use of all equipment that touched brain/nervous tissue of positive or suspected cases harbouring TSEs (such as nvCJD. However, when the COST of implementing that policy was calculated, the recommendation was dropped because the cost would have been millions per annum. BOTTOM line: The UK Govmt ignored a recommendation from its EXPERT GROUP on financial grounds! We should NOT follow their example! Best regards, Phil PS: Below are some other Medline Abstracts that confirm that best practice procedure for autoclaving is a practical solution to reusing medical equipment. However, they also confirm that best practice is not always attained. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gurevich I, Dubin R, Cunha BA. Dental instrument and device sterilization and disinfection practices. J Hosp Infect. 1996 Apr;32(4):295-304. Infection Control Section, Winthrop-University Hospital, Mineola, New York, USA. Dental instruments and devices require sterilization or high-level disinfection. An evaluation of the implementation of such processes was undertaken. Eleven thousand questionnaires on methods used to sterilize and disinfect dental instruments were sent to dental practices and 1391 (13%) were returned for evaluation. Sixty-eight percent of respondents believed they were sterilizing their instruments, however, some of the liquid chemical products used were not suitable for sterilizing instruments, and 12% of respondents used incorrect contact times. Forty-nine percent of respondents did not challenge autoclaves with biological spores to check their function at an acceptable frequency. There were similar product and timing problems when a high-level liquid chemical disinfection was attempted. Although the return sample was small, problems were identified that can and should be corrected. This study demonstrates that the potential for person-to-person transmission of infectious agents such as the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and hepatitis B and C viruses via inadequately sterilized dental instrument exists depending on the prevalence of HIV in the dental practice area. PMID: 8744514 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Hirose K, Tajima K, Fujihira N, Hasegawa S, Fujioka M. [AIDS/HIV related knowledge, attitude and behavior of acupuncture therapists in Aichi Prefecture - Article in Japanese] Nippon Koshu Eisei Zasshi. 1995 Apr;42(4):269-79. Division of Epidemiology, Aichi Cancer Center Research Institute. To promote AIDS prevention measures in Japan, the actual state of knowledge, attitudes and behaviors (KAB) of workers at risk for HIV infection requires clarification. In the present study, acupuncture therapists in Aichi Prefecture were evaluated for level of their KAB. By using a self- administered questionnaire, the KAB condition of 500 acupuncture therapists was surveyed from September-November in 1993. Responses from 494 (98.8%) were available for analysis. Results showed that knowledge level on general issues regarding HIV epidemics was good. The main sources for information on AIDS/HIV were TV, general lectures, public reports and magazines. More than 80% of acupuncture therapists sterilize their needles by autoclave or boiling and 60% of them use disposable needles. Furthermore, 97% of the therapists reported utilizing one or the other of these methods. More than a half of them have participated in AIDS education programs. While about 30% of them responded that they are able to accept HIV carriers as clients, 20% of them expressed negative responses. There appears to be a discrepancy between their level of knowledge of HIV transmission routes and their practical attitude towards clients with AIDS and/or HIV carriers. A more appropriate education program based on behavioral science is desirable to lessen discrepancy distance between general knowledge and preferable behavior regarding AIDS/HIV. PMID: 7780170 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Stinson MC, Green BL, Marquardt CJ, Ducatman AM. Autoclave inactivation of infectious radioactive laboratory waste contained within a charcoal filtration system. Health Phys. 1991 Jul;61(1):137- 42. Environmental Medical Service, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge 02139. A model system was developed previously for disposal of solid laboratory waste that is both radioactive and heat sensitive, e.g., HIV. A double polypropylene bag with charcoal vent filter and absorbent was designed to meet requirements for both steam sterilization and disposal as solid radioactive waste. Earlier work demonstrated the effective containment of radioactive gases by the filter and inactivation of organisms as heat sensitive as HIV. We sought to broaden the application of this model to ensure inactivation of microorganisms that are more heat resistant than HIV. The efficacy of steam sterilization using water or solutions of iodophor, hypochlorite, or hydrogen peroxide was studied under constant temperature and time conditions. The systems were monitored with internal probes, physical, chemical, and biological indicators. Biological indicators documented inactivation when bags containing hydrogen peroxide (3%) were autoclaved for 60 min at 121 degrees C. Synergistic activity between hydrogen peroxide and autoclave conditions significantly reduced processing time. PMID: 2061040 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Carswell JW. Precautions against HIV transmission in hospitals. Trop Doct. 1989 Jul;19(3):131-2. PIP: This article deals with the precautions necessary for handling blood in a hospital environment. It is known that most people who present to the hospital setting may be unknowingly infected with HIV virus, and thus exposure to blood should be handled with care. Routinely, anyone who is at risk of coming in contact with contaminated blood should wear gloves. The nature of the gloves should differ according to the responsibility at hand. Thus plastic gloves should be used for vaginal examinations, standard rubber gloves for deliveries and surgical operations, and heavy duty gloves for scrubbing floors. Soap and water should be readily available for personnel in the event that presumed infected blood comes in contact with skin. A concentration of 0.5% sodium hypochlorite should always be available in the clinical setting, to treat unforseen blood spills. Instruments contaminated with blood could be adequately handled by using sterilization methods which are commonly in use. Boiling the instrument for 20 minutes in hot water is adequate disinfection. However, this method is not sufficient for fiber optic instruments; instead manufacturer's instruction should be followed. Steam sterilizers or autoclaves are more efficient for surgical instruments such as artery forceps. Clearly, simple methods of disinfection are adequate in killing HIV virus, and given that many people are already infected with HIV, sterilization would be a useful routine to practice in most hospitals in the developing countries. PMID: 2773053 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Bradbeer C. Approaches to patients with HIV-related problems. Entre Nous Cph Den. 1988 Oct(12):4-7. PIP: In the United Kingdom, an increasing number of women with HIV infection are found in family planning clinics. Of the 2 main groups of clients with HIV problems, 1 is at low risk but is worried and has interest in preventing exposure; the other is at high risk or is known to be infected. Physicians must 1st determine to which group a patient belongs. High risk group patients are recipients of blood and blood products, intravenous drug users sharing needles, male homosexuals, people from subSaharan Africa, and sexual partners and offspring of any of these. For high risk patients, testing is done in sexually transmitted disease clinics and repeated at 3 and 6 months. For known cases as well as high risk patients, counseling includes information on safer sexual practices, such as use of condoms, and on contraception and pregnancy, such as use of a condom to prevent infection and a hormonal method to prevent conception. The pill is not considered to be practical; IUDs carry an increased risk of infection. Pregnancy is undesirable because of the risk of infecting the baby, of having a malformed baby, or of worsening the maternal prognosis. If an infected woman already is pregnant, she is counselled about terminating the pregnancy. For known cases, care also includes frequent cervical smears because of the increased prevalence of cervical intraepithelial neoplasis. For high risk cases, other tests should be done for hepatitis B and for sexually transmitted diseases. Low risk cases are counselled on the use of condoms and a spermicide; free condoms are provided to men and women. For the clinic staff, general infection control procedures are reinforced, including the use of autoclave, soap and water, and household bleach. All staff wear gloves when dealing with secretions and cover fresh skin abrasions with water-proof plaster. Sharp instruments are placed in a study container and incinerated with other disposable equipment. PMID: 12222330 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Babb JR. Methods of reprocessing complex medical equipment. J Hosp Infect. 1988 Feb;11 Suppl A:285-91. Hospital Infection Research Laboratory, Dudley Road Hospital, Birmingham. The choice as to which of the two gaseous processes is best suited to individual hospital needs is a difficult one. Very few items are unable to tolerate 73 degrees C (LTSF) and these few can withstand 37 degrees C or 55 degrees C (EO). Unfortunately, LTSF is a 'moist' process and sterilizers have a poor history of providing sterilization without modification, and consequently few are used. Ethylene oxide is more reliable, but environmental hazards are greater and running costs high. Both processes are time- consuming and the use of sporicidal disinfectants such as glutaraldehyde is often the only practical alternative. Before purchasing any gaseous sterilizer it is essential to consider throughput and the availability of alternative processes. It may prove sensible to share facilities or at least offer a regional facility. It is certainly not worthwhile purchasing expensive gas sterilizers for reprocessing inexpensive single-use items or for those that require disinfection only. Low temperature steam is safe, inexpensive and no special environmental provisions are necessary. It is, however, not a sterilization process. Disinfectants, hot water and steam will continue to be the only suitable methods for reprocessing items outside the hospital sterile supply department or disinfection unit. Concern over the decontamination of blood-stained instruments following use on patients with hepatitis B or HIV has led to an upsurge of interest in boilers and inexpensive bench top ovens and autoclaves. Such processes are likely to prove more effective than disinfectants but should heat treatment prove impractical then 2% glutaraldehyde or 70% alcohol may be used.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS) PMID: 2896720 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Anon. Controversial report warns of recycled glove use in Kenyan hospital. AIDS Wkly Plus. 1997 Jul 21:19-20. PIP: Kibwage et al. initiated a study into the microbial and physical quality of recycled gloves at Kenyatta National Hospital after a laboratory assistant wearing recycled gloves acquired HIV infection while taking a blood sample from a patient. The worker died of AIDS in 1988. Kibwage et al.'s findings were recently published in an article in the East African Medical Journal. The researchers reported that Kenya government hospitals autoclave used plastic gloves when there is a shortage and autoclave new plastic gloves not meant for surgical use for that purpose. Boiling the gloves in the autoclave at 125 degrees Celsius causes the gloves to stick to each other. Separating them causes tiny tears and holes through which microorganisms can pass. 41% of the recycled gloves used at Kenyatta National Hospital are unsanitary and can transmit disease. The hospital uses about 20,000 gloves each week. Recycled gloves cost about one cent US each, compared to three US cents each for presterilized gloves. Hospital officials dispute the report's claims and counter that the gloves referred to in the study were plastic ones used exclusively for examination. Kibwage et al. recommend using gamma radiation and ethylene oxide to sterilize gloves, surgical attire, and instruments. PMID: 12292413 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc, c/o 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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