Different approaches of allaying panic/terror in dogs during Fireworks / Thunderstorms

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Hi All, & John,

 

Below is a summary of responses from PVA-L & VBMA colleagues

on their approach to treating “fireworks terror/phobia” in dogs.

 

There was no unanimity in the recommendations; each practitioner

has his/her own favourite approach, which included desensitization,

diversion (loud music or soundproofed room), conventional drugs,

herbs +/- acupuncture, homeopathic cocktails, Nutraceuticals &

Other.

 

Many thanks to Are Thoresen, Barbara Fougere, Bella O'Connell,

Bianca Shaw, Elaine Cebuliak, Ihor Basko, Kim Schnepf, Michelle

Schraeder, Patricia Baley, Patricia Jordan, Patty Ungar, Rachael

Jones, Rhea Dodd, Richard.Bleckman, Stefanie Schwartz, Thomas

I. Leininger, & Walt McCall for their comments. Apologies if I have

omitted anyone who replied!

 

A fuller version of each response is at the end.

 

Best regards,

Phil

 

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Desensitize dogs w effects recordings of thunderstorm & fireworks.

A CD by Terry Ryan & Sound Sensibilities [ www.hanaleipets.com

] has a variety of firework sounds. Play it at a low volume while pet

relaxes. Then over many days, increase volume as long as it

doesn't provoke anxiety.

 

Another avenue is just to block external stimuli by having pet

indoors in a quiet area (basement) w a white noise machine or

other loud sound such as a bathroom fan, & perhaps earplugs to

further block unwanted noises. Put dog in as sound-proofed an

area as possible, w very loud music or television sound on at time.

 

Drugs: Ace or diazepam to sedate for fireworks

 

Drugs: some dogs w noise phobia respond to melatonin (3mg/large

dog), xanax (0.05-0.1mg/kg, q12h or PRN; 4mg/dog max/day) or a

combination of clomipramine at 2-4mg/kg BID +/- low dose of

xanax.

 

Drugs: Xanax is the only thing that works w/o sedating them

 

Herbs: _Classify conditions physiologically, psychologically &

" constitutionally " . Use appropriate TCM Tx. For example, little old

dogs that are not deaf w Heart Blood Deficiency vs young dog w/o

heart issues will need a different formula. Subtlety of pattern

diagnosis is very important in herbal medicine. How do we manage

this in a busy clinic, where a good client asks us " Have you got

something good for fireworks? " . Yes, we all know we should say

that I would not be giving you or your pet proper service if I was to

ignore doing a proper history & physical examination supported by

pulse, tongue & urine diagnosis & prescribing according to this.

 

Herbs to explore include Kava, Bacopa, Scutellaria, passionflower,

hops & general " nervine group " .

 

TCM formulas that include Oystershell & Dragonbone, group to

research would be herbal formulas for Disturbed Shen. However,

one dose prior to fireworks will not necessarily work. Also

combinations seem to work better than a single herb, & it also

reduces toxicity. I have used Kava on its own, but in larger dogs

mainly.

 

Herbal mixture (great success): Suanzaoren (Zizyphus S; Jujube

S), Shanzha (Hawthorn berry), Catnip, Chamomile w Dazao (Fr

Zizyphi), Jixuecao (Gotu Kola Leaf) & Amala fruit of which I give

1ml /10kg bid.

 

Herbs: “Calm Spirit” from Health Concerns is fairly reliable; it is a

modified Ding Xin Wan (a tonic for Heart Yin) + much magnesium

& some taurine. Dogs must be on it months sometimes though

before response is reliable. It does not remove all anxiety, just

makes symptoms more bearable.

 

Herbs: “Heavenly Emperor” from Golden Flowers in New Mexico

works great. I have them start several days before & they do it for

about 2 weeks.

 

Herbs: “Shen Calmer” by Dr Xie is a very good formula in

conjunction w acupuncture to Calm Shen (points like HT07; give

appropiate Tx for Heart Yin Deficiency or whatever diagnosis you

make. Are Thoresen recommended acupuncture at BL02.

 

Herbs: Anxiety & Stress Calming Support (Genesis/Resources)

works well if given 3 days before & continued through fireworks &

thundershowers. Does not work right away - like acepromazine or

phenobarb. But works great for long term anxiety disorders. Every

dog & every herb will have a different action. In general, herbs act

slower & need to be used a few days before fireworks. High dose

Kava stimulates CNS & relaxes muscle. Low dose Kava produces

euphoria w/o muscle relaxation Magnesium (muscle relaxant) can

be used w other herbs or substances synergistically. Valerian can

depress CNS but may cause agitation One other " shotgun method "

I have used in combination are: melatonin + 5-HTP + Magnesium;

this works for many dogs but not all. There is no one magic bullet!

 

Herbs: Nervines to Calm Shen include scullcap, valerian,

passionflower & hops; also Chinese dragon bone & oyster shell

have sedative & muscle relaxing properties, similarly

antispasmodic herb lobelia can be very helpful. Each of these

herbs has particular qualities & so I would select a herb or group of

herbs that balances animals constitution; so as an example an

animal that has a strong Yang constitution would generally be

made worse by valerian but benefit from scullcap whilst an animal

w a Yin constitution would benefit from valerian but not scullcap.

Whilst this is a simple example I feel strongly that we need to

respect principles of herbalism & understand nature & properties of

a herb so we can accurately prescribe them. idea of a herb for

firework related anxiety comes from our love of simple answers to

complex problems, it has a kind of elegance, but it is contrary to

how herbs have been traditionally used. Generally treatment is

specific to individual & not condition where as in what is commonly

called conventional medicine we treat condition & not individual

(though now I would say that w vast leaps in knowledge that has

come from molecular biology & understanding of biochemical

individuality that practice of medicine is a little behind science of

medicine). Heavenly empress is generally a modification of

classical formula Heavenly Emperor Tonifying Heart Pill. One of it's

uses is to treat anxiety, panic, palpitations & insomnia arising from

Heart & Kidney Yin Deficiency w Heart Heat so where this pattern

is present in an animal it would be appropriate to use this. However

as it has many Yin Tonics it would be quite inappropriate for patient

w for example Spleen Deficiency or Spleen Damp.

 

Herbs: Peppermint oil on bottom of dog’s four paws

 

Herbs: What are we trying to achieve? (1) Increase serotonin &

improve feeling of well being?; (2) Depress CNS?; (3) Relax

muscles?; (4) Calm Shen?; (5) lower BP? Use synergistic blend of

herbs in lowered dosages of a little of everything that addresses all

5 areas + nutrients to improve brain function & health (Gingko, B

vitamins)

 

Homeopathic combination of Asarum, Borax, Kali-carb, Theridiom;

I combine these 4 w potencies of 6C, 30C, 100C & 1M for each.

This combination is dispensed in 1/2 ounce dropper bottles. I begin

each session w what I call " set up " . This consists of a drop on

gums every 5 minutes for 4 times. This is done only once at

beginning of anticipated time of need. To maintain we give 1 drop 3-

4 times daily during time of need.

 

Homeopathic Rescue Remedy for thunderstorms & other causes of

anxiety: 4 drops in mouth on gums every 5 minutes, as needed.

Most folks don't have to give more than 3 treatments & about 90%

only use one. If a thunderstorm is anticipated, I also recommend 4

drops of Rescue in water dish as soon as it is forecast

 

Nutraceuticals: Anxiety Wrap [ http://www.anxietywrap.com ] +

Bach Flower remedy (based on both constitutional & situational

considerations--ie, tailored to patient's temperament & history), &

two nutraceuticals, Min-Trans by Standard Process [

http://www.standardprocess.com ], (2-4 tabs bid w meals) + L-

Theanine Calmplex (which has GABA & 5-HTP in it). For tough

cases, add Melatonin 1-5mg (usually 3mg for ave. sized dogs). L-

Theanine Calmplex [ http://www.ImmuneSupport.com ]; they also

sell a subingual melatonin tablet (2.5mg) but I sometimes use

Thorne Research Inc. encapsulated melatonin too (1, 3 &

5mg)....Min-Trans is ordered direct from Standard Process

 

Other: Combination of Standard Process Minchex or Orchex [

http://www.becomehealthynow.com/supps/minchex.shtml ], Rx

Pets Nutri-Calm, & sometimes adding melatonin

 

I would love to hear about other peoples experience w herbal meds

or tryptophan.

 

Has anyone tried VetriScience's new " Composure " made from milk

peptides?

 

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< wrote to PVA-L & VBMA:

 

“Hi All, Have you any RELIABLE treatment (with acupuncture,

herbs or any other approach] to reduce panic/fear/excitability in

dogs during a series of explosions caused by fireworks? Please

respond if you have! Best regards, Phil”

 

Phil wrote to John Bainbridge: “Hi John, I sent the above mail to

PVA-L (a list of circa 300 vet acupuncturists) and VBMA (Vet Bot

Med Assoc - an international list for herbalists. I will forward any

useful replies.”

 

John Bainbridge (a vet colleague) wrote:

>Hi Phil I asked Luis Campoy - college anaesthetist who helps me

a lot in zoo - about medication for dogs to reduce fear of fireworks.

Luis came back with advise that accupuncture - especially a

couple of points on the head Luis? Most unlike an anaesthetist so

it may be good advice or the problem may be too complicated. Any

thoughts Phil? Regards JB

 

Acupuncture can give some help in human panic attacks, but I am

not aware of its use for " fireworks panic " in dogs. A Google search

yielded little. One article said that acupuncture was NOT much

good in that condition:

http://petcare.umn.edu/Dogs/Articles/NoisePhobia.htm<http://petca

re.umn.edu/Dogs/Articles/NoisePhobia.htm> Herbal medicine also

is used to reduce panic attacks, but I am not skilled enough to

advise expertly in that area either. Best regards, Phil

 

Hi John, Pending better acupuncture/herbal options from the

discussion lists, you might try Homeopathic Aconite & Nux-vom for

panic attacks. The potency/dilution usually recommended is C30

Try 1 tab of each 2-3 times/day and report back. I have heard of

phenomenal results in human agaraphobia with Acon+Nux.

 

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Barbara Fougere <petdoc | Some herbs to

explore include kava, Bacopa, Scutellaria, passionflower, hops and

the general " nervine group " . Also TCM formulas that include oyster

shell and dragon bone, the group to research would be the herbal

formulas for shen disturbance. However its important to note that

they are not necessarily going to work, one dose prior to the

fireworks. Also combinations seem to work better than a single

herb, and it also reduces toxicity. I have used kava on its own

though, but in larger dogs mainly. There is some good discussion

on this on the CAVM list archives if I recall correctly. But lets have

some more thoughts and ideas on this! Anyone have any cases to

describe. Kind regards Barbara

 

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Bella O'Connell <zebzola | I have a dog with

thunderstorm phobia. She is now 13yrs old. In the past 6 months

she has become almost completely deaf and now shows no

anxiety in thunderstorms or to loud noises whatsoever. This makes

me wonder if it may have been useful to have some very loud music

or television sound on at the time in as sound-proofed an area as

possible. Some people I know have had success with the

thunderstorm and fireworks sound-effects recordings with which

they desensitise their dogs. Good luck. Bella O'Connell Sydney,

Australia

 

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Bianca Shaw <bwsdvm | I can't verify reliability from

dog to dog but I tried peppermint oil on the bottom of my dogs four

paws this past summer and was pretty satisfied with the results.

My dog's level of anxiety is to bark and become hyperresponsive to

noise. I have generally used Ace or diazepam to sedate for

fireworks in the past. Bianca Shaw, DVM Back On Track Vet

Rehab Center, LLC Portland, OR

www.backontrackvetrehab.com<http://www.backontrackvetrehab.co

m/>

 

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Elaine Cebuliak <anwell | Cam Day has a tape

that can be used with behaviour modification for loud noises /

fireworks [ http://tinyurl.com/6ffmo ].

 

I have used Bach Flower remedies and Hypericum (St John's Wort)

with cave/cage (bathroom-sit stay) behaviour raining/food rewards.

Valium is anxiolytic. Elaine Cebuliak BVSc MACVSc Dip Ed

 

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Ihor Basko | There is no such thing as a reliable one herb to quell

this problem. Every dog will respond differently. What we need to

do is to classify the type of conditions physiologically,

psychologically & " constitutionally " with TCM that exist in dogs

that become fearful, panic, tremble & shake with fireworks or

thunder. For example, little old dogs that are not deaf with Heart

Blood deficiency vs young dog with no heart issues..........will need

a different formula in general. Also, what are we trying to achieve

with the herbs? 1.) Increase serotonin and improve the feeling of

well being? 2.) depress the CNS? 3.) relax muscles? 4.) Calm the

Shen? 5.) lower blood pressure? I have formulated a combination a

synergistic blend in lowered dosages of a little of everything that

addresses all 5 areas with nutrients to improve brain function and

health (gingko, B vitamins) Anxiety & Stress Calming Support

(Genesis/Resources)..........works well if given 3 days prior and

continued through the fireworks and thundershowers. Does not

work right away..........like acepromazine or phenobarb. But works

great for long term anxiety disorders. Every dog and every herb will

have a different action. In general, herbs act slower and need to be

used a few days prior to fireworks. In high doses Kava stimulates

the CNS while causing muscle relaxtion, but in low doses

produces euphoria without muscle relaxation Magnesium (a

muscle relaxant) can be used with other herbs or substances

synergistically. Valerian can depress the CNS but may cause

agitation One other " shotgun method " I have used in combination

are: melatonin + 5-HTP + Magnesium this works for many dogs but

not all. Once we understand our patients specific needs and

deficiencies, and understand how each herb or substance

functions, and learn to enhance the needed actions synergistically

using a combination approach: ie....Emperor herb + Minister herb =

main actions / + synergistic & nutritive herbs..... we can create a

formula specific for the individual.......not just hope we have a

formula for the " masses " . There is no one magic bullet! Ihor Ihor

Basko, DVM Kauai, Hawaii

 

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Kim Schnepf <kschnepf | I would like to know the

answer to that also because the only thing I have used that

actually works without sedating them is Xanax. Any more natural

solutions would be most welcome. Kim Dr. Kimber Schnepf Dakota

Pet Hospital Minneapolis, MN

 

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Michelle Schraeder <mtnvet | Heavenly

Emperor from Golden Flowers in New Mexico works great. Most of

my clients have switched to it during the 4th of July and stopped

asking for tranquilizers so it helps. Not sure if it would help for the

ones who have flown through a window in the past though. I have

them start several days before and they do it for about 2 weeks

total (when finally everyone seems to run out of those illegal

fireworks). I also dispense it for those flying with their pets that are

not totally nuts (especially nice option for those older guys).

Michelle Schraeder Bellingham, WA mtnvet

 

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Patricia Baley <nyanga | I've had fairly reliable

success with Health concerns “Calm Spirit”, which is a modified

Ding Xin Wan (a tonic for Heart Yin) with a lot of magnesium and

some taurine in it. They need to be on it months sometimes though

before the response is reliable. In general they tend to have their

anxiety dampened progressively. It does not remove all anxiety,

just makes the symptoms bearable for them often. Some have

responded with almost complete success though.

 

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Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic | Dr Xie's “Shen

Calmer” is a very good TCM herbal formula to use in conjunction

with calming the mind AC points, Ht 7 and after the case is worked

up, appropiate Ac for Heart yin defeciency or whatever diagnosis

you derive. I am in China right now with Dr. Xie at our TCVM

Conference.SIncerely,P. Jordan,DVM

 

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Patty Ungar <drkenvet | Hi Phil- We have had animals

improve with a combination of Standard Process Minchex or

Orchex, Rx Pets Nutri-Calm, and sometimes adding melatonin as

well. Good Luck! Patty Ungar DVM, CVA San Diego, CA

 

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Rachael Jones <drjdrk3 | I like using The Anxiety

Wrap, along with Bach Flower remedy (based on both

constitutional and situational considerations--ie, tailored to the

patient's temperament and history), and two nutraceuticals, Min-

Trans by Standard Process ( 2 to 4 tabs twice daily with meals)

and L-Theanine Calmplex (which has GABA and 5-HTP in it). For

really tough cases, I also will add Melatonin 1 to 5 mgs (usually 3

mgs for ave. sized dogs). Have had pretty impressive responses w/

Anxiety Wrap (hysterical dogs that were then able to at least retire

to their crates without fussing)...I think the combo above helps to

lessen the panic/fear/anxiety so that the animal is slowly

desensitized. Most do not seem to have the hysteria as before, but

don't really like the storms or fireworks , either.... Anxiety Wrap is

loosely based on body wrap technique borne of Tellington Touch

method.... See www.anxietywrap.com The L-Theanine Calmplex is

available thru the online store at www.ImmuneSupport.com, they

also sell a subingual melatonin tablet (2.5 mgs) but I sometimes

use the Thorne Research Inc. encapsulated melatonin too (1 , 3

and 5 mgs)....Min-Trans is ordered direct from Standard Process

www.standardprocess.com. I use a text that has good descriptions

/charts for the indications/useages of the Bach Flower essences

and blends. I can't recall the author(s) but can find that out and

report back! Hope this is useful ! Rachael Jones DVM Valparaiso,

IN

 

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Rhea Dodd < RheaDoc | There is a CD by Terry Ryan

and Sound Sensibilities, available at hanaleipets.com, that

contains a variety of firework sounds. You play it at a low volume

while the pet relaxes, then over many days, increase the volume as

long as it doesn't provoke anxiety. Another avenue is just to block

external stimuli by having the pet indoors in a quiet area

(basement) with a white noise machine or other loud sound such

as a bathroom fan, and perhaps earplugs to further block unwanted

noises. Medication-wise, some dogs with noise phobia respond to

melatonin (3 mg/large dog), xanax (0.05-0.1 mg/kg, q12h or PRN;

4 mg/dog max per day) or a combination of clomipramine at 2-

4mg/kg BID +/- low dose of xanax. I would love to hear about other

peoples experience with herbal meds or tryptophan. Has anyone

tried VetriScience's new " Composure " made from milk peptides?

Best, RD Rhea Dodd, DVM, MA Gentle Vet Pain Management &

Behavior Solutions for Pets 8420 West Ken Caryl Avenue Littleton,

CO 80123 (303) 919-1504

 

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Richard.Bleckman <richard.bleckman | Many of the

nervine herbs act to calm and pacify the spirit for example

scullcap, valerian, passion flower and hops; aslo the Chinese

dragon bone and oyster shell have sedative and muscle relaxing

properties, similarly the antispasmodic herb lobelia can be very

helpful. Each of these herbs has particular qualities and so I would

select a herb or group of herbs that balances the animals

constitution; so as an example an animal that has a strong Yang

constitution would generally be made worse by valerian but benefit

from scullcap whilst an animal with a Yin constitution would benefit

from valerian but not scullcap. Whilst this is a simple example I

feel strongly that we need to respect the principles of herbalism

and understand the nature and properties of a herb so we can

accurately prescribe them. The idea of a herb for firework related

anxiety comes from our love of simple answers to complex

problems, it has a kind of elegance, but it is contrary to the how

herbs have been traditionally used. Generally the treatment is

specific to the individual and not the condition where as in what is

commonly called conventional medicine we treat the condition and

not the individual (though now I would say that with the vast leaps

in knowledge that has come from molecular biology and the

understanding of biochemical individuality that the practice of

medicine is a little behind the science of medicine). Heavenly

empress is generally a modification of the classical formula

Heavenly Emperor Tonifying the Heart Pill. One of it's uses is to

treat anxiety, panic, palpitations and insomnia arising from Heart

and Kidney Yin deficiency with Heart Heat so where this pattern is

present in an animal it would be appropriate to use this. However

as it contains many Yin tonics it would be quite inappropriate for an

patient with for example Spleen deficiency or Spleen Damp. These

comments are not made as criticisms but purely out of my love of

herbal medicine and my respect of my teachers. In my experience

the subtleties of pattern diagnosis is of great importance in herbal

medicine. The question then is how do we manage this in the

context of a busy clinic where a good client asks us " by the way

have you got something good for fireworks " . Yes, we all know we

should say that I would not be giving you or your pet proper service

if I was to ignore doing a proper history and physical examination

supported by pulse, tongue and urine diagnosis and prescribing

according to this. Especially as " good practitioners " of

complimentary medicine where our view is that the excessive

reaction to fireworks is a symptom of an internal imbalance rather

than the conventional view that this is a normal animal reacting to a

specific abnormal condition. (Please don't take this as

endorsement of excessive use of fireworks as I feel this is a

symptom of individuals and society out of balance). So finally to

get to the point in this rather long winded response we all are going

to want to have something at hand, and yes we have conventional

treatments, but as a herbalist we can select a neutral herb with a

balance of sweet and sour tastes so as to do no harm. I have used

Zizyphus seeds with great success for this, also known as Suan

Zao Ren. This is classed as a nutritive sedative tonic in TCM but is

used in Ayurvedic medicine as to stabilise vata which is what we

are mostly dealing with - a vata type constitution provoked by

fireworks. So I have a mixture made up of Jujube seed, Hawthorn

berry, Cat nip, Chamomile with Zizyphus, Gotu Kola Leaf and

Amala fruit of which I give 1 ml /10kg twice a day. It is the best I

have been able to manage so far. Yours Richard Bleckman BVSC

MURHP MRCVS

 

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Michelle Schraeder <mtnvet replied: You are

right, Richard. I was being simplistic in my reply. The patients I am

generally putting on Heavenly Emperor are tending to Yin

Deficiency. They are geriatrics with renal disease or other

indications of HT/KI Yin Deficiency that I hadn't been doing TCM

yet on when they first come in for that acepromazine that I wouldn't

want to use on them for any reason. I'm familar with them already

with having seen them for conventional medicine. My clients that I

see for TCM already don't seem to have firework issues (balanced

pet already?). After they see their animal calmer, those clients are

then ready for TCM options for other issues vs conventional

(Acupuncture). Some are just happy to see an alternative to drugs.

We are treating the individual as a whole vs. just the problem. We

have a bad time here with illegal fireworks (they get them from the

indian reservation stands) that goes on loudly at night for 2 weeks

in the countryside. Michelle Schraeder mtnvet

 

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Stefanie Schwartz | My monumental project (“Psychoactive Herbs

in Veterinary Behavior Medicine” (Blackwell Publishing), by

Stefanie Schwartz, DVM,MSc,DACVB) has been completed and is

scheduled for release June 2005. There are many useful herbs to

control anxiety from all ethnobotanical practices. Please watch out

for the book. Peace, SS

 

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Thomas I. Leininger <vetonwheels | I use Rescue

Remedy for thunderstorms and other causes of anxiety: 4 drops in

the mouth on the gums every 5 minutes as needed. Most folks

don't have to give more than 3 treatments and about 90% only use

one. If a thunderstorm is anticipated, I also recommend 4 drops of

Rescue in the water dish as soon as it is forecast Thomas I.

Leininger, VMD, CVCP www.vetonwheels.net Fountain Hills, AZ

85268 480-695-3027

 

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Walt McCall <waltmc | I have had good luck with a

homeopathic combination that I make to help my patients during

noisy times. These include thunder storms, fireworks displays

such as New Years Eve and the 4th of July. The combo is as

follows: Asarum Hypersensitivity in hearing. Can't tolerate the

slightest noise. Borax Hypersensitive to sudden loud noise.

Sensitive to noise in general. Kali carb Starts violently with

slightest noise. Theridiom Hyper intolerance to slightest noise.

Using a four card Rae instrument I combine these 4 with potencies

of 6C, 30C, 100C and 1M for each. This combination is dispensed

in 1/2 ounce dropper bottles. I begin each session with what I call

the " set up " . This consists of a drop on the gums every 5 minutes

for 4 times. This is done only once at the beginning of the

anticipated time of need. To maintain we give 1 drop 3 or 4 times

daily during the time of need. Walt McCall, DVM

 

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