Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 OZ DOCTORS 'BRIBED' BY BIG PHARMA? http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=203104 Friday, 28 March 2008, 6:27 a.m. Or shall we just say coerced or perhaps indebted..... _____ The World Today - Friday, 28 March , 2008 12:10:00 Reporter: David Mark ELEANOR HALL: Drug companies spent more than $16-million on hospitality and travel costs for Australian doctors and nurses in just six months last year. And we know this because for the first time the pharmaceutical companies themselves have revealed just what they spend lobbying the Australian medical community. The drug companies' peak body in Australia is now publishing these figures thanks to a new requirement by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. Consumer advocates say there is no doubt the pharmaceutical companies are trying to buy the opinions of doctors and they want the largesse to stop. David Mark reports. DAVID MARK: Anyone who has scanned a GP's room will know from the branded coffee mugs, pens and note pads, that drug companies are keen to market their wares. But the sheer scale of the drug industry's generosity to Australia's doctors and medical professionals has now been made public. In the six months to last December, 42 of Australia's drug companies spent $16.4-million in travel, accommodation and hospitality. Almost 400,000 health professionals received the hospitality at more than 14,000 separate events. The figures are published for the first time in a report released today by the drug companies' peak body, Medicines Australia. Read on @ http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2008/s2201600.htm Or .... You can also listen to the story in REAL AUDIO and WINDOWS MEDIA and MP3 formats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 and they wonder why I do not trust them..... even here in Ozzy Land they are susceptible to manipulation and bribery from Pharma........ Clare in Taz which is part of Ozzy Honestly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Couldn't they have spared some of that $16m for me - I could have fed more than my 16 rescue cats and dogs and bought a heap more supplements with even a small portion of that amount Jane RN1 in Oz - Misty Health and Healing ; Armageddon or New Age Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:49 PM OZ DOCTORS 'BRIBED' BY BIG PHARMA? OZ DOCTORS 'BRIBED' BY BIG PHARMA? http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=203104 Friday, 28 March 2008, 6:27 a.m. Or shall we just say coerced or perhaps indebted..... _____ The World Today - Friday, 28 March , 2008 12:10:00 Reporter: David Mark ELEANOR HALL: Drug companies spent more than $16-million on hospitality and travel costs for Australian doctors and nurses in just six months last year. And we know this because for the first time the pharmaceutical companies themselves have revealed just what they spend lobbying the Australian medical community. The drug companies' peak body in Australia is now publishing these figures thanks to a new requirement by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. Consumer advocates say there is no doubt the pharmaceutical companies are trying to buy the opinions of doctors and they want the largesse to stop. David Mark reports. DAVID MARK: Anyone who has scanned a GP's room will know from the branded coffee mugs, pens and note pads, that drug companies are keen to market their wares. But the sheer scale of the drug industry's generosity to Australia's doctors and medical professionals has now been made public. In the six months to last December, 42 of Australia's drug companies spent $16.4-million in travel, accommodation and hospitality. Almost 400,000 health professionals received the hospitality at more than 14,000 separate events. The figures are published for the first time in a report released today by the drug companies' peak body, Medicines Australia. Read on @ http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2008/s2201600.htm Or .... You can also listen to the story in REAL AUDIO and WINDOWS MEDIA and MP3 formats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 what gets me .... errrr OK so the BIG PHARMA sponsors Doc and nurses et al too attend ongoing educational seminars etc.... sound real good till you read in other places that .... for example if Hep B is the topic of ongoing education, then bet your bottom dollar or pound, that the sponsor will have a 'wonderful' new drug just coming out to help 'cure' 'fix' Hep B ! nothing remotely wonderful about them sponsoring this seminar - they simply want to promote their new drug! YES I AM A SKEPTIC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Quote: http://www.abc.net.au:80/worldtoday/content/2008/s2201600.htm IAN CHALMERS: Well, it is a lot of money, but it needs to be seen in context. There are 385,000 healthcare professionals who participated in medical education events during the six-month period that this report covers. That is an enormous number of individuals and indicates the extent to which doctors and other healthcare professionals are active participants in continuing medical education.DAVID MARK: Among the 14,000 so-called "educational events" were some individual big ticket items. Roche Products, for instance, spent $415,000 last August on meals, drinks, accommodation and flights for around 300 health care professionals at a three day hepatitis symposium held at Melbourne's Grand Hyatt Hotel.Other companies spent well over $100,000 on individual functions, and their critics argue these sorts of events do influence doctorsCHRISTOPHER ZINN: I think there's no doubt that, you know, marketing seeks to influence doctors' behaviour.DAVID MARK: Christopher Zinn is the spokesman for the consumer organisation, Choice.CHRISTOPHER ZINN: We think it's quite fair enough for them to talk to doctors, to give them information, but actually there are other systems, the national prescribing service for example, sends out people to talk to doctors to give them information. Now that's something that's totally independent.That's the kind of system we'd like to see, far more of that going on and perhaps far less of the educational function.DAVID MARK: But Ian Chalmers rejects the suggestion that the drug companies are attempting to influence doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Yes - of course - we get wound care seminars by Smith and Nephew - some good stuff - NO samples - then we get Molnlycke seminars - excellent stuff and oodles of samples - trouble with drugs - IMO - there are NO good drugs and therefore NO good samples - but previously GPs have given me drug samples when I couldn't fix things myself .... the trouble is - lets be practical - people go to the GP - begging for stuff - so they get given stuff - often it is just as simple as that .............. I need a GP for the occasional Med Cert - but I go and say hey my hip hurts - he doesn't say - here take this Celebrex because I do, take this Fosamax because it'll break your jaw but it may save you bones, take this Lipitor because your cholesterol maybe too high - NO he says - yep my hip hurts too - and off I go clutching my Med Cert and nothing else - most people would not like that at all ................ Jane - Clares Primus Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:34 PM Re: OZ DOCTORS 'BRIBED' BY BIG PHARMA? what gets me .... errrr OK so the BIG PHARMA sponsors Doc and nurses et al too attend ongoing educational seminars etc.... sound real good till you read in other places that .... for example if Hep B is the topic of ongoing education, then bet your bottom dollar or pound, that the sponsor will have a 'wonderful' new drug just coming out to help 'cure' 'fix' Hep B ! nothing remotely wonderful about them sponsoring this seminar - they simply want to promote their new drug! YES I AM A SKEPTIC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 "They" only think of themselves, and not the little people struggling to survive. Kenneth T - Jane MacRoss Sunday, March 30, 2008 3:23 AM Re: OZ DOCTORS 'BRIBED' BY BIG PHARMA? Couldn't they have spared some of that $16m for me - I could have fed more than my 16 rescue cats and dogs and bought a heap more supplements with even a small portion of that amount Jane RN1 in Oz - Misty Health and Healing ; Armageddon or New Age Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:49 PM OZ DOCTORS 'BRIBED' BY BIG PHARMA? OZ DOCTORS 'BRIBED' BY BIG PHARMA? http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=203104 Friday, 28 March 2008, 6:27 a.m. Or shall we just say coerced or perhaps indebted..... _____ The World Today - Friday, 28 March , 2008 12:10:00 Reporter: David Mark ELEANOR HALL: Drug companies spent more than $16-million on hospitality and travel costs for Australian doctors and nurses in just six months last year. And we know this because for the first time the pharmaceutical companies themselves have revealed just what they spend lobbying the Australian medical community. The drug companies' peak body in Australia is now publishing these figures thanks to a new requirement by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. Consumer advocates say there is no doubt the pharmaceutical companies are trying to buy the opinions of doctors and they want the largesse to stop. David Mark reports. DAVID MARK: Anyone who has scanned a GP's room will know from the branded coffee mugs, pens and note pads, that drug companies are keen to market their wares. But the sheer scale of the drug industry's generosity to Australia's doctors and medical professionals has now been made public. In the six months to last December, 42 of Australia's drug companies spent $16.4-million in travel, accommodation and hospitality. Almost 400,000 health professionals received the hospitality at more than 14,000 separate events. The figures are published for the first time in a report released today by the drug companies' peak body, Medicines Australia. Read on @ http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2008/s2201600.htm Or .... You can also listen to the story in REAL AUDIO and WINDOWS MEDIA and MP3 formats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 At 02:52 AM 3/30/2008, you wrote: If one believes that doctors are, in fact, part of a conspiracy involving Big Pharma (which I do not believe all doctors are), don't know why anyone would think the docs in Australia, England - all over the world aren't part of the same conspiracy. Many of the drugs they prescribe come from the same sources as they do in the U.S. Lynn and they wonder why I do not trust them..... even here in Ozzy Land they are susceptible to manipulation and bribery from Pharma........ Clare in Taz which is part of Ozzy Honestly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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