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6th closed door session of Congress in 176 years

 

Last week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last 176

years that Congress has closed its doors to the public.

 

Word has begun leaking that not only did members discuss new surveillance

provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session,

they also discussed:

 

the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September

2008;

the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February

2009;

the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the

collapse;

advance round-ups of " insurgent U.S. citizens " likely to move

against the government;

the detention of those rounded-up at " REX 84 " camps constructed

throughout the USA (see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84);

the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the

collapses;

the location of " safe facilities " for members of Congress and

their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;

the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada

(for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor

pool);

the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the

proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

 

Members of Congress were forbidden to reveal what was discussed.

 

See House Holds Closed Session to Discuss

Surveillance Bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/house-holds-closed-sessio_n_91490.html;

House Approves New Eavesdropping Rules:

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2008Mar14/0,4675,TerroristSurveillance,00.html;

International Experts Foresee Collapse of U.S. Economy:

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=918803

 

************************************************************************************

 

 

See: Beginning of Martial Law:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=begEaAe4XYE

 

 

Preparation of martial law in the USA has begun.

Is our country turning into Fascism? What are WE going to do about it? Can anything below be denied?

 

1) The president asserts the right to ignore part or all of laws passed by the national legislature.

2) Massive warrantless searches.

3) The president and other officials regularly lie to you.

4) Fraudulent election counts.

5) Government monitoring of letters, emails, phone calls and checking accounts.

6) Secret courts.

7) A government subservient to the interests of the country's largest corporations.

8) Use of torture on prisoners.

9) Courts that support presidential use of unconstitutional powers.

10) Massive spying on citizens, especially those involved in political dissent.

11) A government that uses words like democracy, freedom and peace while engaging in acts dramatically at odds with such words.

12) Government agencies or officials declaring themselves exempt from portions of the law or constitution.

13) Creation of watch lists, no-fly lists and similar exclusionary documents.

14) National ID cards.

15) Growing number of citizens incarcerated for a growing number of offenses.

16) Massive use of cameras to spy on citizens.

17) A media supportive of, or obsequious towards, the government in covering its police state activities.

18) Security bubble around government leaders' public appearances including pre selected audiences and limit on proximity of protests.

19) Disarming of citizenry.

20) Dissent characterized as disloyal by government and its supporting media.

21) Increasing government control over private behavior.

22) Lack of legal recourse to stop illegal government actions.

23) Prison without trial and arrests without charges.

24) It is difficult to borrow books from libraries pertaining to controversial subjects such as fascism.

25) Transfer of powers from legislatures to executive.

26) Assassinations of popular public figures.

27) Expansion of prisons and laws that lead people to prisons.

28) President claims right to make war whenever he wants.

29) Words misused to mean their opposite: i.e. peace for war, democracy for fascism.

30) The president sets himself up as the sole moral authority for the entire country, using his personal beliefs as the basis on which to declare what is 'good' and what is 'evil.'

31) Federal takeover of functions formerly considered essential state or local responsibilities such as state militias and public education.

32) Creation of a mercenary military force used for foreign and domestic purposes.

 

The concentration camps have already been built HERE IN America.

FEMA Concentration Camps: Locations and Executive Orders http://www.mindfully.org:80/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

Un hidden Agendas: Off To Camp FEMA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTvPljNxYTI & NR=1

Detention Center, concentration camp? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqi123hBw2A & NR=1

Concentration Camps being built for U.S citizens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBxdRIQx7Y & NR=1

Concentration Camp In Texas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYxTly-yo8 & NR=1

FEMA Camp with Better Quality Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pfGOH4uxA & NR=1

FEMA Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps in USA) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4 & NR=1

Beech Grove Indiana FEMA Camp - April 5 2006 http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=v9Ut-t7k_zY & NR=1

NEW WORLD ORDER OF FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN USA EXPOSED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnlKg5ZXPu0 & NR=1

FEMA camp Chicago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0da_83BzqM & NR=1

 

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My feeling is that the contents of this email are mis-information, spread

across the internet by those who either have a sick sense of humor, very

sick at that, or are trolling the internet to cause more

fear, more discontent and rile the people.

Personally I'd be cautious to take this info on board. Just

keep it in back of mind.

all imho of course :-)

Hanneke

 

At 08:48 AM 17/03/2008, " thehavens "

<thehavens

wrote:

 

 

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:31:55

-0700

" Freedom Pool " <freedompool

freedompool

6th closed door session of Congress in 176 years

 

Last week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last 176

years that Congress has closed its doors to the public.

 

Word has begun leaking that not only did members discuss new surveillance

provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session,

they also discussed:

 

the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September

2008;

the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February

2009;

the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the

collapse;

advance round-ups of " insurgent U.S. citizens " likely to move

against the government;

the detention of those rounded-up at " REX 84 " camps constructed

throughout the USA (see

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84);

the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the

collapses;

the location of " safe facilities " for members of Congress and

their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;

the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada

(for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor

pool);

the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the

proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

 

Members of Congress were forbidden to reveal what was discussed.

 

See House Holds Closed Session to Discuss

Surveillance Bill:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/house-holds-closed-sessio_n_91490.html

; House Approves New Eavesdropping Rules:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2008Mar14/0,4675,TerroristSurveillance,00.html

; International Experts Foresee Collapse of U.S. Economy:

 

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=918803

 

 

************************************************************************************

 

 

See: Beginning of Martial Law:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=begEaAe4XYE

 

Preparation of martial law in the USA has begun.

Is our country turning into Fascism? What are WE going to do about

it? Can anything below be denied?

 

1) The president asserts the right to ignore part or all of

laws passed by the national legislature.

2) Massive warrantless searches.

3) The president and other officials regularly lie to you.

4) Fraudulent election counts.

5) Government monitoring of letters, emails, phone calls and checking

accounts.

6) Secret courts.

7) A government subservient to the interests of the country's largest

corporations.

8) Use of torture on prisoners.

9) Courts that support presidential use of unconstitutional powers.

10) Massive spying on citizens, especially those involved in political

dissent.

11) A government that uses words like democracy, freedom and peace while

engaging in acts dramatically at odds with such words.

12) Government agencies or officials declaring themselves exempt from

portions of the law or constitution.

13) Creation of watch lists, no-fly lists and similar exclusionary

documents.

14) National ID cards.

15) Growing number of citizens incarcerated for a growing number of

offenses.

16) Massive use of cameras to spy on citizens.

17) A media supportive of, or obsequious towards, the government in

covering its police state activities.

18) Security bubble around government leaders' public appearances

including pre selected audiences and limit on proximity of protests.

 

19) Disarming of citizenry.

20) Dissent characterized as disloyal by government and its supporting

media.

21) Increasing government control over private behavior.

22) Lack of legal recourse to stop illegal government actions.

23) Prison without trial and arrests without charges.

24) It is difficult to borrow books from libraries pertaining to

controversial subjects such as fascism.

25) Transfer of powers from legislatures to executive.

26) Assassinations of popular public figures.

27) Expansion of prisons and laws that lead people to prisons.

28) President claims right to make war whenever he wants.

29) Words misused to mean their opposite: i.e. peace for war, democracy

for fascism.

30) The president sets himself up as the sole moral authority for the

entire country, using his personal beliefs as the basis on which to

declare what is 'good' and what is 'evil.'

31) Federal takeover of functions formerly considered essential state or

local responsibilities such as state militias and public education.

32) Creation of a mercenary military force used for foreign and domestic

purposes.

 

The concentration camps have already been built HERE IN

America.

FEMA Concentration Camps: Locations and Executive Orders

 

http://www.mindfully.org:80/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

 

Un hidden Agendas: Off To Camp FEMA

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTvPljNxYTI & NR=1

Detention Center, concentration camp?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqi123hBw2A & NR=1

Concentration Camps being built for U.S citizens

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBxdRIQx7Y & NR=1

Concentration Camp In Texas

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYxTly-yo8 & NR=1

FEMA Camp with Better Quality Video

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pfGOH4uxA & NR=1

FEMA Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps in USA)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4 & NR=1

Beech Grove Indiana FEMA Camp - April 5 2006

 

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=v9Ut-t7k_zY & NR=1

NEW WORLD ORDER OF FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN USA EXPOSED

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnlKg5ZXPu0 & NR=1

FEMA camp Chicago

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0da_83BzqM & NR=1

 

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If the doors were closed, that should be easy to found out.Den 16/03/2008 kl. 23.33 skrev Hanneke:My feeling is that the contents of this email are mis-information, spread across the internet by those who either have a sick sense of humor, very sick at that, or are trolling the internet to cause more fear, more discontent and rile the people. Personally I'd be cautious to take this info on board. Just keep it in back of mind.all imho of course :-)HannekeAt 08:48 AM 17/03/2008, "thehavens (AT) highland (DOT) net" <thehavens (AT) highland (DOT) net>wrote:Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:31:55 -0700"Freedom Pool" <freedompool >freedompool (AT) hotmail (DOT) comSubject: 6th closed door session of Congress in 176 yearsLast week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last 176 years that Congress has closed its doors to the public. Word has begun leaking that not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed: the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008;the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009;the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse;advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government;the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84);the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses;the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool);the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon. Members of Congress were forbidden to reveal what was discussed. See House Holds Closed Session to Discuss Surveillance Bill: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/house-holds-closed-sessio_n_91490.html ; House Approves New Eavesdropping Rules: http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2008Mar14/0,4675,TerroristSurveillance,00.html ; International Experts Foresee Collapse of U.S. Economy: http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=918803 ************************************************************************************ See: Beginning of Martial Law: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=begEaAe4XYE Preparation of martial law in the USA has begun. Is our country turning into Fascism? What are WE going to do about it? Can anything below be denied? 1) The president asserts the right to ignore part or all of laws passed by the national legislature. 2) Massive warrantless searches. 3) The president and other officials regularly lie to you. 4) Fraudulent election counts. 5) Government monitoring of letters, emails, phone calls and checking accounts. 6) Secret courts. 7) A government subservient to the interests of the country's largest corporations. 8) Use of torture on prisoners. 9) Courts that support presidential use of unconstitutional powers. 10) Massive spying on citizens, especially those involved in political dissent. 11) A government that uses words like democracy, freedom and peace while engaging in acts dramatically at odds with such words. 12) Government agencies or officials declaring themselves exempt from portions of the law or constitution. 13) Creation of watch lists, no-fly lists and similar exclusionary documents. 14) National ID cards. 15) Growing number of citizens incarcerated for a growing number of offenses. 16) Massive use of cameras to spy on citizens. 17) A media supportive of, or obsequious towards, the government in covering its police state activities. 18) Security bubble around government leaders' public appearances including pre selected audiences and limit on proximity of protests. 19) Disarming of citizenry. 20) Dissent characterized as disloyal by government and its supporting media. 21) Increasing government control over private behavior. 22) Lack of legal recourse to stop illegal government actions. 23) Prison without trial and arrests without charges. 24) It is difficult to borrow books from libraries pertaining to controversial subjects such as fascism. 25) Transfer of powers from legislatures to executive. 26) Assassinations of popular public figures. 27) Expansion of prisons and laws that lead people to prisons. 28) President claims right to make war whenever he wants. 29) Words misused to mean their opposite: i.e. peace for war, democracy for fascism. 30) The president sets himself up as the sole moral authority for the entire country, using his personal beliefs as the basis on which to declare what is 'good' and what is 'evil.' 31) Federal takeover of functions formerly considered essential state or local responsibilities such as state militias and public education. 32) Creation of a mercenary military force used for foreign and domestic purposes. The concentration camps have already been built HERE IN America. FEMA Concentration Camps: Locations and Executive Orders http://www.mindfully.org:80/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm Un hidden Agendas: Off To Camp FEMA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTvPljNxYTI & NR=1 Detention Center, concentration camp? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqi123hBw2A & NR=1 Concentration Camps being built for U.S citizens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBxdRIQx7Y & NR=1 Concentration Camp In Texas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYxTly-yo8 & NR=1 FEMA Camp with Better Quality Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pfGOH4uxA & NR=1 FEMA Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps in USA) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4 & NR=1 Beech Grove Indiana FEMA Camp - April 5 2006 http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=v9Ut-t7k_zY & NR=1 NEW WORLD ORDER OF FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN USA EXPOSEDhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnlKg5ZXPu0 & NR=1 FEMA camp Chicago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0da_83BzqM & NR=1X-Attachment-Id: 0.1Content-Type: image/jpeg; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-72AF6345; name=lib.jpgContent-Disposition: attachment; filename=lib.jpg---Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system ( http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release 2/14/05******Kraig and Shirley Carroll ... in the woods of SE Kentuckyhttp://www.thehavens.com/thehavens (AT) highland (DOT) net606-376-3363Checked by AVG. 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At 06:18 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:

I know I shouldn't get upset at things like this, but I just can't help

it......

There are so many things wrong with this post it would hard to know where

to begin. However, the most important is the majority of

assumptions, statements and supposed " leaks " spoken about in

this email are absolutely not verifiable. Anywhere. By anyone. Check

yourself. The only thing anyone will find is opinions and innuendos.

Nothing factual. Other than they had a closed door session. and, that

they debated surveillance legislation. More than that

is conjecture at this point.

I was a reporter, and I know what an " un-named source " or

" leak " can mean. Sometimes, it means you don't have anyone that

said anything - and are just trying to bolster a story. A number of

reporters have been caught doing just that. Their stories and their

" sources " were fictitious. A lot of the stuff said in this

email isn't even logical. For one, why would the U.S. merge with Mexico

for cheap labor? When they come pouring over the border and their labor

is already cheap? And, if the economy collapses, as this email suggests,

we won't have a need for cheap labor - it'll be all around us because

people will be out work. People will be desperate. People work pretty

cheap when they're in that situation. Just do a bit of checking on what

went on in the Depression in the 1930's.

Emails such as these are irresponsible and do nothing more than pander to

people's fears. While there may be a grain of truth here and there, it is

largely bunk, and should be treated as such. Not to mention - if, by some

stretch of the imagination some, or several of the things spoken about

below were in the cards, what could the average working person, the

working poor, or those who receive benefits because they can't work, do

anyway? If you don't have enough money to live properly, live hand to

mouth every month, or get the medical care you need, how do you suppose

one could plan for such an event?

Real quick, A cursory examination of one of the sites given as reference

for the article below, the Huffington Post, shows that opinion rather

than fact is the basis for a number of their articles. For example, the

recent article, Admiral Fallon: A resignation in Protest, written by Jon

Soltz, has a tiny bit of fact - and even that is not totally correct. The

bulk of the article is his opinion - unless of course, he is a telepath

and has read Adm. Fallon's mind. In case you're curious, the fact that

Fallon left his position as CENTCOM's commander is true. However, an

Admiral doesn't resign, especially not a four star Admirial - he retires.

which he did after 40 years of service. They are two entirely different

things - especially when it comes to someone in the military. Which Solz

would know, if he knew anything about the military at all. Or, if he were

even trying to give an objective presentation of the facts.

Lynn

 

 

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" Freedom Pool " <freedompool

freedompool

6th closed door session of Congress in 176 years

 

Last week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last 176

years that Congress has closed its doors to the public.

 

Word has begun leaking that not only did members discuss new surveillance

provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session,

they also discussed:

 

the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September

2008;

the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February

2009;

the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the

collapse;

advance round-ups of " insurgent U.S. citizens " likely to move

against the government;

the detention of those rounded-up at " REX 84 " camps constructed

throughout the USA (see

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84);

the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the

collapses;

the location of " safe facilities " for members of Congress and

their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;

the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada

(for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor

pool);

the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the

proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

 

Members of Congress were forbidden to reveal what was discussed.

 

See House Holds Closed Session to Discuss

Surveillance Bill:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/house-holds-closed-sessio_n_91490.html

; House Approves New Eavesdropping Rules:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2008Mar14/0,4675,TerroristSurveillance,00.html

; International Experts Foresee Collapse of U.S. Economy:

 

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=918803

 

 

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At 07:12 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:

The doors were closed - they were talking about national security. Just

because there is a grain of truth, it doesn't mean the whole loaf is

true.

Lynn

If the doors were closed, that

should be easy to found out.

 

Den 16/03/2008 kl. 23.33 skrev Hanneke:

My feeling is that the contents

of this email are mis-information, spread across the internet by those

who either have a sick sense of humor, very sick at that, or are

trolling the internet to cause more fear, more discontent and rile

the people.

Personally I'd be cautious to take this info on board. Just

keep it in back of mind.

all imho of course :-)

Hanneke

 

At 08:48 AM 17/03/2008, " thehavens "

<thehavens

wrote:

 

 

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:31:55

-0700

" Freedom Pool " <freedompool

freedompool

6th closed door session of Congress in 176 years

 

Last week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last 176

years that Congress has closed its doors to the public.

 

Word has begun leaking that not only did members discuss new surveillance

provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session,

they also discussed:

 

the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September

2008;

the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February

2009;

the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the

collapse;

advance round-ups of " insurgent U.S. citizens " likely to move

against the government;

the detention of those rounded-up at " REX 84 " camps constructed

throughout the USA (see

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84);

the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the

collapses;

the location of " safe facilities " for members of Congress and

their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;

the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada

(for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor

pool);

the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the

proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

 

Members of Congress were forbidden to reveal what was discussed.

 

See House Holds Closed Session to Discuss

Surveillance Bill:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/house-holds-closed-sessio_n_91490.html

; House Approves New Eavesdropping Rules:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2008Mar14/0,4675,TerroristSurveillance,00.html

; International Experts Foresee Collapse of U.S. Economy:

 

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=918803

 

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Unfortunately the speed at which things are unravelling and the depths of the lies and the many many years it would take to get at any truth which is not likely anyway---they still don't know who killed Kennedy after 50years---and we don't have 50 years---leave us no alternative but to take our best guess. Your guess is a sgood as mine---to me it's not an unlikely scenario at all...we all know its coming sometime...Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote: At 06:18 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:I know I shouldn't get upset

at things like this, but I just can't help it......There are so many things wrong with this post it would hard to know where to begin. However, the most important is the majority of assumptions, statements and supposed "leaks" spoken about in this email are absolutely not verifiable. Anywhere. By anyone. Check yourself. The only thing anyone will find is opinions and innuendos. Nothing factual. Other than they had a closed door session. and, that they debated surveillance legislation. More than that is conjecture at this point. I was a reporter, and I know what an "un-named source" or "leak" can mean. Sometimes, it means you don't have anyone that said anything - and are just trying to bolster a story. A number of reporters have been caught doing just that. Their stories and their "sources" were fictitious. A lot of the stuff said in this email isn't even logical. For one, why would the U.S. merge with Mexico

for cheap labor? When they come pouring over the border and their labor is already cheap? And, if the economy collapses, as this email suggests, we won't have a need for cheap labor - it'll be all around us because people will be out work. People will be desperate. People work pretty cheap when they're in that situation. Just do a bit of checking on what went on in the Depression in the 1930's.Emails such as these are irresponsible and do nothing more than pander to people's fears. While there may be a grain of truth here and there, it is largely bunk, and should be treated as such. Not to mention - if, by some stretch of the imagination some, or several of the things spoken about below were in the cards, what could the average working person, the working poor, or those who receive benefits because they can't work, do anyway? If you don't have enough money to live properly, live hand to mouth every month, or get the medical care you need, how do you suppose one

could plan for such an event? Real quick, A cursory examination of one of the sites given as reference for the article below, the Huffington Post, shows that opinion rather than fact is the basis for a number of their articles. For example, the recent article, Admiral Fallon: A resignation in Protest, written by Jon Soltz, has a tiny bit of fact - and even that is not totally correct. The bulk of the article is his opinion - unless of course, he is a telepath and has read Adm. Fallon's mind. In case you're curious, the fact that Fallon left his position as CENTCOM's commander is true. However, an Admiral doesn't resign, especially not a four star Admirial - he retires. which he did after 40 years of service. They are two entirely different things - especially when it comes to someone in the military. Which Solz would know, if he knew anything about the military at all. Or, if he were even trying to give an objective presentation of the facts.

Lynn Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:31:55 -0700"Freedom Pool" <freedompool >freedompool (AT) hotmail (DOT) comSubject: 6th closed door session of Congress in 176 yearsLast week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last 176 years that Congress has closed its doors to the public. Word has begun leaking that not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed: the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008;the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009;the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse;advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government;the detention of those

rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84);the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses;the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool);the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon. Members of Congress were forbidden to reveal what was discussed. See House Holds Closed Session to Discuss Surveillance Bill: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/house-holds-closed-sessio_n_91490.html ; House Approves New Eavesdropping Rules: http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2008Mar14/0,4675,TerroristSurveillance,00.html ; International Experts Foresee Collapse of U.S. Economy: http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=918803 ************************************************************************************

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At 09:43 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:

Most of the time I don't really care who is wrong and who is right,

despite what some may think. Everyione isn't always going to agree,

which is part of what makes life interesting. All I usually care about is

whether or not people have all the info and look at it before they make

up their minds. Then, the rest is up to them....but, in this instance, I

really hope I'm right *smile* To think that the below scenario

could even possibly be true, is scary beyond words....and, I have no idea

of how we would cope with it......

Lynn

 

Unfortunately the speed at which

things are unravelling and the depths of the lies and the many many years

it would take to get at any truth which is not likely anyway---they still

don't know who killed Kennedy after 50years---and we don't have 50

years---leave us no alternative but to take our best guess. Your guess is

a sgood as mine---to me it's not an unlikely scenario at all...we all

know its coming sometime...

Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

 

 

At 06:18 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:

I know I shouldn't get upset at things like this, but I just can't

help it......

There are so many things wrong with this post it would hard to know

where to begin. However, the most important is the majority of

assumptions, statements and supposed " leaks " spoken about in

this email are absolutely not verifiable. Anywhere. By anyone. Check

yourself. The only thing anyone will find is opinions and innuendos.

Nothing factual. Other than they had a closed door session. and, that

they debated surveillance legislation. More than that is

conjecture at this point.

I was a reporter, and I know what an " un-named source " or

" leak " can mean. Sometimes, it means you don't have anyone that

said anything - and are just trying to bolster a story. A number of

reporters have been caught doing just that. Their stories and their

" sources " were fictitious. A lot of the stuff said in this

email isn't even logical. For one, why would the U.S. merge with Mexico

for cheap labor? When they come pouring over the border and their labor

is already cheap? And, if the economy collapses, as this email suggests,

we won't have a need for cheap labor - it'll be all around us because

people will be out work. People will be desperate. People work pretty

cheap when they're in that situation. Just do a bit of checking on what

went on in the Depression in the 1930's.

Emails such as these are irresponsible and do nothing more than

pander to people's fears. While there may be a grain of truth here and

there, it is largely bunk, and should be treated as such. Not to mention

- if, by some stretch of the imagination some, or several of the things

spoken about below were in the cards, what could the average working

person, the working poor, or those who receive benefits because they

can't work, do anyway? If you don't have enough money to live properly,

live hand to mouth every month, or get the medical care you need, how do

you suppose one could plan for such an event?

Real quick, A cursory examination of one of the sites given as

reference for the article below, the Huffington Post, shows that opinion

rather than fact is the basis for a number of their articles. For

example, the recent article, Admiral Fallon: A resignation in Protest,

written by Jon Soltz, has a tiny bit of fact - and even that is not

totally correct. The bulk of the article is his opinion - unless of

course, he is a telepath and has read Adm. Fallon's mind. In case you're

curious, the fact that Fallon left his position as CENTCOM's commander is

true. However, an Admiral doesn't resign, especially not a four star

Admirial - he retires. which he did after 40 years of service. They are

two entirely different things - especially when it comes to someone in

the military. Which Solz would know, if he knew anything about the

military at all. Or, if he were even trying to give an objective

presentation of the facts.

Lynn

 

 

 

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:31:55 -0700

" Freedom Pool " <freedompool

freedompool

6th closed door session of Congress in 176 years

 

Last week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last

176 years that Congress has closed its doors to the public.

 

Word has begun leaking that not only did members discuss new

surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed

door session, they also discussed:

 

the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September

2008;

the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February

2009;

the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the

collapse;

advance round-ups of " insurgent U.S. citizens " likely to

move against the government;

the detention of those rounded-up at " REX 84 " camps

constructed throughout the USA (see

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84);

the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the

collapses;

the location of " safe facilities " for members of Congress

and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;

the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada

(for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor

pool);

the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as

the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

 

Members of Congress were forbidden to reveal what was discussed.

 

 

See House Holds Closed Session to Discuss

Surveillance Bill:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/house-holds-closed-sessio_n_91490.html

; House Approves New Eavesdropping Rules:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2008Mar14/0,4675,TerroristSurveillance,00.html

; International Experts Foresee Collapse of U.S. Economy:

 

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=918803

 

 

 

 

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MY FEELING IS YOU SHOULD GET UPSET, BUT NOT WITH ME OR THE

KNOWLEDGE..........BUT YOUR HAVING BEEN ONE OF THE WELL INFORMED

REPORTERS, MAKES EVERYTHING YOU SAY SUSPECT.......YOUR BUNCH IS WHO

BURRY'S THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND ON EVER MAJOR EVENT, YOU CLOWNS ARE THE

LAST ONES TO GET IT RIGHT AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU TRULY WORK FOR,

WHO PULLS YOUR STRINGS.......THE PRESS HAS BEEN ABOUT IN FRONT OF THINGS AS

THE C.I.A. AND THEY ARE NEVER IN FRONT OR PREVENT ANYTHING......AND YES, I

KNOW WHY, THE CIA IN ALL IT'S FORMS [ANY GOVERNMENT " INTELLIGENCE " AGENCY "

ONLY PURPOSE IS TO SERVE THE RICHEST OF THE RICH.]EXISTS..........BUT YOU

BEING A REPORTER, YOU KNOW THIS........ACTUALLY OF ALL THE THINGS YOU MIGHT

PICK AT IN THIS PIECE, IN TYPICAL REPORTER FASHION, YOU TOUCHED NOTHING

OF SUBSTANCE IN THIS PIECE., MAKES ONE WONDER IF YOU AREN'T A

PLANT?.......AND PLEASE DON'T TRY TO TELL ME ANY THING ABOUT THE

MILITARY, I'VE TOED THE LINE OF FREEDOM FOR MY COUNTRY AND SO HAS MY

FAMILY, TO THE TUNE OF 150 YEARS OF SERVICE, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE! ARE

YOU SO BLOODY BLIND THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN ARE

ABOUT......OIL AND HEROIN.....SURLY YOU KNOW THAT AFTER WE INVADED THE

AFGANS, THE WORLDS PRODUCTION OF HEROIN IS AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS IN KNOWN

HISTORY!? IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS, THE AHGANS PRODUCE OVER 80% [ ACCORDING

TO U.N. SOURCES] OF THE WORLDS POPPIES.......BEFORE WE MOVED IN, THE OLD

UGLY TALIBAN, SHUT DOWN ALL POPPY PRODUCTION WHEN THEY FINALLY KICKED OUT

THE RUSSIANS.[iT WAS A RELIGIOUS THING FOR THEM.......BUT NOW THAT GOOD OLD

CONGRESS THAT YOU HAVE SO MUCH FAITH IN ARE RE-SUPPLYING THE STREETS OF THE

WORLD WITH HEROIN AND THE GOOD OLD U.S.A. IS THE MAJOR PIMP!!! YOU

AREN'T REALLY SO NAIVE AS TO BELIEVE THE CASUALTY FIGURES YOUR GOVERNMENT

IS GIVING YOU , DO YOU? ARE YOU AWARE THAT WE LOSE 120 VETERANS A WEEK

TO SUICIDE!!???? YOUR CONGRESS KNOWS..........AND DOES NOTHING......YOU

KNOW HOW MANY VETS GET TURNED DOWN FOR V.A. ASSISTANCE AFTER HAVING PUT

THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE FOR THE LIKES OF YOU! ALL THEY WANT ARE THE

BENEFITS PROMISED TO THEM, BUT YOUR CONGRESS DOES NOTHING!!!!!! ARE

YOU AWARE THAT YOUR CONGRESS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF THOUSANDS

OF VETS FROM EXPOSURE TO DEPLETED URANIUM......COMMERCIAL TOXIC LADEN

FOODS[ NO DOUBT MSG IS ALL OVER THE PLACE] ,[PROBABLY STILL GIVING THE

TROOPS " SOFT " DRINKS WITH ASPARTAME IN THEM ] EXTREMELY QUESTIONABLE

VACCINES AND ONLY GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE OUR CONGRESS MEN AND WOMAN HAVE

ALLOWED TO BE DONE TO OUR OWN TROOPS, IN YOUR NAME, NOT MINE! YOUR

BEING A REPORTER, SURELY YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THREE LEGS OF " GULF WAS

SYNDROME " WAS ASPARTAME? ONLY TOOK THE V.A. TEN YEARS TO ACCEPT WHAT HAD

BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PUT BEFORE CONGRESS! BY THE ALTERNATIVE FOLKS, YEARS

BEFORE........ONLY MY OPINION BUT I THINK YOU COULD DO YOURSELF AND OTHERS

A BIG FAVOR IF YOU WOULD READ " THE CREATURE OF JEYKEL ISLAND " AND THE

CREATION OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE, G. EDWARD GRIFFITH IS THE AUTHER! KRAIG

 

 

 

 

 

 

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