You are not paranoid, tainted products we need to get rid of them

March 15, 2008

It is very difficult not to buy Chinese goods - they are everywhere and always the cheapest - as you say it is a very clever ploy - back to arts and crafts and making things yourself - if you're not at work everyday that is!

Jane

kerley983

I don't want to be paranoid or anything, but haven't you begun to wonder how it is that all these "tainted" products keep coming out of China?

I have made a promise to myself nothing from China. At Christmas time a lot of people were very unsatisfied with merchandise. Clothes styles, fabrics.

March 15, 2008

At 04:23 PM 3/15/2008, you wrote:

I appreciate everyone's feedback...It's really so scary to think that

perhaps there is some larger plan in the works. And, how patient they

would have to be to see it's fruition.... We are trying to not purchase

things from China, but I agree that it's difficult. Many, if not most of

the electronics - so much stuff. I wonder what it's going to take before

countries that continue to import from China either see the big picture,

or at the very least, get a firm grip on the problem. Even though I

realize it's not China, I found it interesting that in India they are not

allowed to sell " fake " products within the country, but are

allowed to export them....I have also wondered if the quality, or lack of

quality, we are seeing in things from China and some other countries, is

something one sees within that country. Clearly, India does not allow it

- only to be sent to others. I know there are problems in China with

quality control, but I have a hard time believing it's on the same

massive scale that is exported.

And, it's nice to know that if I'm paranoid - I'm not

alone.....*smile*

Lynn

I don't want to be paranoid or

anything, but haven't you begun to wonder how it is that all these

" tainted " products keep coming out of China?

You would have to be numb in the head not to question

what is the obvious. It could also be a way to dispose of us, as in

we the people. They killed 55,000 of their peoples pets.

They fired on Tianamen Square their own people. We did have

Posse Comitatis which gave us protection from the government. Our

for fathers looked ahead and knew it would be this way eventually.

This is also why we read in the bible, The love of money is the root of

all evil. What goes on now is the living proof of that.

sharon

I have made a promise to myself nothing from

China. At Christmas time a lot of people were very unsatisfied with

merchandise. Clothes styles, fabrics.

March 16, 2008

I'm very glad to see someone beside's myself is concerned with the

possibility that China is slowly doing us in! How do we know? I

watched a special on one of the news channels a few months back

talking about how all these bad products are getting in our stores..

It seems no one is checking the mass amounts of shipments that come

into the US daily from China until someone has a problem, then they

have recalls. How many people have been affected by a single product

by time someone points out there's a problem with it? Very scarry..

I had no idea just how many things actually come out of China until

the pet food recall, then suddenly it started becoming very clear

that very few products are actually made in the US, and even if

they're distributed by an American company, that doesn't mean the

ingredients or parts were made here..Why??? We need jobs in this

country.. Why are we buying so much from China? Who is benefiting

from this? It certainly isn't your average joe.

My husband and I have decided to put in a garden this summer and

eat/can as much food as possible that's home grown. We try very hard

to not buy anything made in China, but at times, there isn't a

choice! That's really the scarry part..

I think it will take the American puplic standing up and refusing to

buy China made products before things turn around again.. My husband

doesn't think it's possible to go back.. He thinks we're doomed! I

hope he's wrong.

Just had to add my two cents! This whole China issue has been

worrying me for a long time.

Have a great day,

Blessings,

Karen

, " Jane MacRoss "

<highfield1 wrote:

>

> It is very difficult not to buy Chinese goods - they are everywhere

and always the cheapest - as you say it is a very clever ploy - back

to arts and crafts and making things yourself - if you're not at work

everyday that is!

>

> Jane

>

> kerley983

>

> I don't want to be paranoid or anything, but haven't you begun to

wonder how it is that all these " tainted " products keep coming out of

China?

>

> I have made a promise to myself nothing from China. At Christmas

time a lot of people were very unsatisfied with merchandise. Clothes

styles, fabrics.

>

March 16, 2008

Hey everybody,

I just wanted to say that I totally agree on tainted products from

overseas. It has become very hard to buy products that are made in

the USA. I searched for a while and found an American manufacture

that I shop for all my home and personal care products from. I can

get tooth paste, mouth wash, all my beauty products, bath soap,

shampoo, vitamins and supplements, all my laundry products, kitchen

and bath room cleaners. They have several hundred products that I can

shop from and I just love it. Their products are very concentrated,

so actually in the long run it costs about the same, or maybe even

less than the tainted products that the supper market offers, or

department stores. They also make them with safer more natural

ingredients, so if you have skin rashes, eczema, or dermatitis these

products might resolve that problem too.

It is very nice to be able to buy products that are made in the USA

again. I feel so much safer using these products. If anybody would

like to know where I shop just email me, and I would be glad to pass

the info along to you.

If anybody knows where you can shop for American made cloths, I would

appreciate you sending me that information.

I do know one place that I stay away from and that is good old Wal-

Mart, there is hardly anything there that is American made. You have

to be extremely careful about the fresh produce that you buy there.

On a environmental group that I belong to, they showed that last year

30 % of there produce came from overseas, and this year 70% comes

from overseas. Other countries use pesticides and fungicides that are

not lawful for use in the USA, but these countries can use it and

send their produce to the USA. I am pretty sure there is not a piece

of clothing in the whole store that came from the USA. If there is I

have not found it.

Well, there is my two cents worth for the day.

Annie

, Lynn Ward <lynnward

wrote:

>

> At 04:23 PM 3/15/2008, you wrote:

>

> I appreciate everyone's feedback...It's really so scary to think

that

> perhaps there is some larger plan in the works. And, how patient

they

> would have to be to see it's fruition.... We are trying to not

> purchase things from China, but I agree that it's difficult. Many,

March 17, 2008

Its the same in Australia Karen - companies go broke every day because the

minimum wage really does not cover the cost of buying Australian made

products. I see this as the government forcing us to buy Chinese goods,

keeping us poor so we are forced to do this - driving our own companies out

of business, keeping prices high so we can hardly afford to pay the mortgage

and eat - all to one end. We are seeing the One End looming ominously

before us and are turning a blind eye to what that might be.

Only today the PM here was forced to very mildly express his concern, for

example, about the atrocities that are happening in Tibet. How can he

possibly, as PM of a country with only 22m inhabitants, expect to impact

China? Or impact China's foreign policies? Our previous PM would not even

acknowledge the Dalai Lama when he came here - for fear of offending the

Chinese nation. What would really happen if we all stood up to China - they

would drown in their own goods - the people would all starve and the

workers, doubtless would be blamed - they are blamed now when things, like

the Mattel fiasco, go wrong - the lives of the Chinese workers, are hell.

And we - our needs to live - are keeping them in hell.

Best,

Jane

-

" Karen " <karen

I'm very glad to see someone beside's myself is concerned with the

possibility that China is slowly doing us in!

March 17, 2008

At 11:46 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:

I don't know what it's going to take before they get wise....Maybe some

movie star's kid get sick? A Senator's? Thing is, as has been pointed

out, it's happening in a number of countries. But, I see it more as

people's ignorance, and their desire for fast, cheap stuff. For example,

things made in the U.S. are often way more expensive than things from

China - over here, the labor unions have a lot to do with

that......

Lynn

Its the same in Australia Karen

- companies go broke every day because the

minimum wage really does not cover the cost of buying Australian made

products. I see this as the government forcing us to buy Chinese goods,

keeping us poor so we are forced to do this - driving our own companies

out

of business, keeping prices high so we can hardly afford to pay the

mortgage

and eat - all to one end. We are seeing the One End looming ominously

before us and are turning a blind eye to what that might be.

Only today the PM here was forced to very mildly express his concern, for

example, about the atrocities that are happening in Tibet. How can he

possibly, as PM of a country with only 22m inhabitants, expect to impact

China? Or impact China's foreign policies? Our previous PM would not even

acknowledge the Dalai Lama when he came here - for fear of offending the

Chinese nation. What would really happen if we all stood up to China -

they

would drown in their own goods - the people would all starve and the

workers, doubtless would be blamed - they are blamed now when things,

like

the Mattel fiasco, go wrong - the lives of the Chinese workers, are hell.

And we - our needs to live - are keeping them in hell.

Best,

Jane

-

" Karen "

<karen

>

I'm very glad to see someone beside's myself is concerned with the

possibility that China is slowly doing us in!

March 17, 2008

The Chinese are forced into labour camps and paid a pittance - neither your fellow countrymen not mine would put up with that

Best,

Jane

-

Lynn Ward

Monday, March 17, 2008 3:23 PM

Re: Re: You are not paranoid, tainted products we need to get rid of them

At 11:46 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:I don't know what it's going to take before they get wise....Maybe some movie star's kid get sick? A Senator's? Thing is, as has been pointed out, it's happening in a number of countries. But, I see it more as people's ignorance, and their desire for fast, cheap stuff. For example, things made in the U.S. are often way more expensive than things from China - over here, the labor unions have a lot to do with that......Lynn

Its the same in Australia Karen - companies go broke every day because the minimum wage really does not cover the cost of buying Australian made products. I see this as the government forcing us to buy Chinese goods, keeping us poor so we are forced to do this - driving our own companies out of business, keeping prices high so we can hardly afford to pay the mortgage and eat - all to one end. We are seeing the One End looming ominously before us and are turning a blind eye to what that might be.Only today the PM here was forced to very mildly express his concern, for example, about the atrocities that are happening in Tibet. How can he possibly, as PM of a country with only 22m inhabitants, expect to impact China? Or impact China's foreign policies? Our previous PM would not even acknowledge the Dalai Lama when he came here - for fear of offending the Chinese nation. What would really happen if we all stood up to China - they would drown in their own goods - the people would all starve and the workers, doubtless would be blamed - they are blamed now when things, like the Mattel fiasco, go wrong - the lives of the Chinese workers, are hell. And we - our needs to live - are keeping them in hell.Best,Jane- "Karen" <karen >I'm very glad to see someone beside's myself is concerned with thepossibility that China is slowly doing us in!

March 18, 2008

Hi Jane and the group,

It sounds like the gov. in Australia is about like it is in the USA.

The USA even borrows money from China, now I think that is just

terrible. That makes us very beholding to them, and probably part of

the reason so many of these harmful products are being allowed in

America.

I was doing some research on different manufactures and what they use

in there products, and where they make most of those products, one of

the co.'s that I check out was Proctor and Gamble. Proctor and Gamble

has 80 some plants that they manufacture many of our household

cleaners, personal products, along with foods. I found one news clip

from ABC News, they said that Proctor and Gamble has a home office

here in the states, but all of their factories are overseas. Many of

those factories are in China, it showed one such plant in China, and

told about the people that works there. Talk about a slave shop, I

could not believe it. They have a compound that they have to live in

next to the plant, they have to work 7 days a week, no sick leave, no

vac, no death leave, and the pay I do not remember for sure what it

was, but it was like a couple of bucks and hour. Proctor and Gamble

would not let the news crew on the grounds or in the building, so

they could only take pictures from outside the chain link fence.

However they did get into the compound to talk to some of the

workers, and take some pictures there. It seemed clean enough, but

there were beds lined up on both walls, no personal space for anyone.

Can you imagine living like that? Proctor and Gamble and other

manufactures that do business like this should not have a business. I

just find this so shameful, goes to show you that there main concern

is the billions of dollars they make every year. They do not care

about their workers, or the consumers that purchase those harmful

products. I personally will never buy another product manufactured by

them. These kinds of manufactures have to be cut down to size, and if

the gov. will not do it, then consumers have to.

Some one should sue them for false advertisement, like the new ad on

TV that we have here where they are advertising a safe bleach spray.

Well there is nothing safe about bleach, and here they are wanting

you to spray it in your home, around your baby's and children. Just

makes me so mad!

Ok,I will get off my soap box now.

Annie

, " Jane MacRoss "

<highfield1 wrote:

>

> Its the same in Australia Karen - companies go broke every day

because the

> minimum wage really does not cover the cost of buying Australian

made

> products. I see this as the government forcing us to buy Chinese

goods,

> keeping us poor so we are forced to do this - driving our own

companies out

> of business, keeping prices high so we can hardly afford to pay the

mortgage

> and eat - all to one end. We are seeing the One End looming

ominously

> before us and are turning a blind eye to what that might be.

>

> Only today the PM here was forced to very mildly express his

concern, for

> example, about the atrocities that are happening in Tibet. How can

he

> possibly, as PM of a country with only 22m inhabitants, expect to

impact

> China? Or impact China's foreign policies? Our previous PM would

not even

> acknowledge the Dalai Lama when he came here - for fear of

offending the

> Chinese nation. What would really happen if we all stood up to

China - they

> would drown in their own goods - the people would all starve and

the

> workers, doubtless would be blamed - they are blamed now when

things, like

> the Mattel fiasco, go wrong - the lives of the Chinese workers, are

hell.

> And we - our needs to live - are keeping them in hell.

>

> Best,

>

> Jane

>

> -

> " Karen " <karen

>

> I'm very glad to see someone beside's myself is concerned with the

> possibility that China is slowly doing us in!

>

March 18, 2008

Thanks Annie - thats what I read in our National Newspaper here too - life

stinks for some - its all down to karma I guess - so all we can do is our

best!

Best,

Jane

-

" annielovenlife " <annielovenlife

Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:17 AM

Re: You are not paranoid, tainted products we

need to get rid of them