Questions about MS

[Guest guest]

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a

couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't

recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so

down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly

troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or

for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or

whatever that can alleviate them?

thanks,

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Magnesium and B6.

Lynn Ward <lynnward Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:26:36 AM Questions about MS

 

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?thanks,Lynn

[Guest guest]

Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:21:01 AMRe: Questions about MS

 

 

 

Magnesium and B6.

Lynn Ward <lynnward (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>Monday, February 25, 2008 8:26:36 AM[Health_and_ Healing] Questions about MS

 

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?thanks,Lynn

[Guest guest]

I myself have been told its possible that I have MS, so I'd like to see material here, as much as anyone has, endless thanks to whomever can do this for me and anyone else in the group who has just started their journey. Anna MariaLynn Ward <lynnward wrote: I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the media),

there is one that has been particularly troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?thanks,Lynn

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[Guest guest]

I have a friend who is a nutritionist and she has one MS client, and

she does the detox foot bath with him a few times a week and that

seems to help him be able to walk better. He is also getting some

good results with this stem cell product -

http://www.regeneratestemcells.com - and also lots and lots of

plant-based enzymes.

 

Carol

 

, Anna <annaskreashyns

wrote:

 

> Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

> I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a

couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't

recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often

so down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly

troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much

or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or

mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?

>

> thanks,

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

At 01:21 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:

Hugh, thank you for your reply. I have been taking both of them daily,

but probably not enough. It's via a mulit-vitamin. What amounts would you

suggest? They were bad, got a bit better with help from Zanaflex

(Tizandine), and have just recently gotten a lot worse again. Even when

the spasms aren't as severe, it feels almost as though I'm vibrating

inside....Sounds weird, I know. Can't really think of another way to

describe it.

Lynn

Magnesium and B6.

 

Lynn Ward <lynnward

 

Monday, February 25, 2008 8:26:36 AM

Questions about MS

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people

in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside

from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the

media), there is one that has been particularly troubling - the

terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long.

Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that

can alleviate them?

[Guest guest]

At 08:38 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:

Anna,

What symptoms have you had? What has caused the diagnosis? I've actually

had MS for more than 30 years now. Have had many ups and downs over the

years. Lucky for me, when I was first diagnosed, I had Relapsing

Remiting (RRMS), and while some things got pretty bad at times, I usually

got a lot better with treatment. I know steroids are bad for you in so

many ways, but they really helped when I had severe onsets of symptoms.

Now, it has turned into Secondary Progressive (SPMS). I know sun is good

for you, and I think I felt better, overall when we lived in San Diego,

where the climate is, for the most part, temperate. (not too hot, not too

cold). However, even while the sun is good for you, the heat is not, and

can bring an exacerbation of symptoms on. Heat is frequently a big issue

for folks with MS.

I don't know how long you have been diagnosed, or if it is a firm

diagnosis. Hope you have a good neurologist? There has been much written

about certain diets over the years, but little to show they made much

difference over eating healthy and well. Here is a link to a site you

might find interesting:

 

http://www.msviewsandrelatednews.com/

Lynn

I myself have been told its

possible that I have MS, so I'd like to see material here, as much as

anyone has, endless thanks to whomever can do this for me and anyone else

in the group who has just started their journey.

 

Anna Maria

Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

 

 

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of

people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who.

Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played

by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling -

the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very

long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever

that can alleviate them?

 

thanks,

Lynn

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Magnesium at least 400mg and B6 100mg

Lynn Ward <lynnward Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:24:21 AMRe: Questions about MS

 

At 01:21 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:Hugh, thank you for your reply. I have been taking both of them daily, but probably not enough. It's via a mulit-vitamin. What amounts would you suggest? They were bad, got a bit better with help from Zanaflex (Tizandine), and have just recently gotten a lot worse again. Even when the spasms aren't as severe, it feels almost as though I'm vibrating inside....Sounds weird, I know. Can't really think of another way to describe it.Lynn

Magnesium and B6.Lynn Ward <lynnward (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>Monday, February 25, 2008 8:26:36 AM[Health_and_ Healing] Questions about MSI've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?

[Guest guest]

At 02:35 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:

Thanks!!1

Lynn

 

Magnesium at least 400mg and B6

100mg

 

Lynn Ward <lynnward

 

Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:24:21 AM

Re: Questions about MS

At 01:21 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:

Hugh, thank you for your reply. I have been taking both of them daily,

but probably not enough. It's via a mulit-vitamin. What amounts would you

suggest? They were bad, got a bit better with help from Zanaflex

(Tizandine), and have just recently gotten a lot worse again. Even when

the spasms aren't as severe, it feels almost as though I'm vibrating

inside....Sounds weird, I know. Can't really think of another way to

describe it.

Lynn

Magnesium and B6.

 

Lynn Ward <lynnward (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>

 

Monday, February 25, 2008 8:26:36 AM

[Health_and_ Healing] Questions about MS

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people

in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside

from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the

media), there is one that has been particularly troubling - the

terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long.

Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that

can alleviate them?

[Guest guest]

ok this is going to sound most perculiar

I am NOT diagnosed with MS.... but there was a time I was convinced I probably had it....... I tried everything I could come up with.... to no long standing positive effect...... my bowels were also involved.... too soft too hard too often not often enuff etc etc etc..... finally I went gluten free and believe it or not the aches and pains in my body everywhere are lesser and lesser each passing day............ I cannot explain it.... my doc is not interested.... I am happy.......... happier and better than I have been in almost ten years........ try it..... it takes time, but heck it cost nothing and if it works for you then congrats......... by the way.... I have challenged myself (last week( by eating a piece of not gluten free cake.... arghhhhhh within an hour I was ill..... toilet frequency etc and extreme body pains...... NO GLUTEN works for me

 

-

Lynn Ward

Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:24 AM

Re: Questions about MS

At 01:21 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:Hugh, thank you for your reply. I have been taking both of them daily, but probably not enough. It's via a mulit-vitamin. What amounts would you suggest? They were bad, got a bit better with help from Zanaflex (Tizandine), and have just recently gotten a lot worse again. Even when the spasms aren't as severe, it feels almost as though I'm vibrating inside....Sounds weird, I know. Can't really think of another way to describe it.Lynn

Magnesium and B6.Lynn Ward <lynnward Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:26:36 AM Questions about MSI've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?

 

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You probably know all about this.......but if I had this muscle decline, I certainly would try out bee venom, If I lived in the states ( here I can not, only if I bought some bees myself ) Den 26/02/2008 kl. 18.04 skrev Lynn Ward:At 08:38 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:Anna,What symptoms have you had? What has caused the diagnosis? I've actually had MS for more than 30 years now. Have had many ups and downs over the years. Lucky for me, when I was first diagnosed, I had Relapsing Remiting (RRMS), and while some things got pretty bad at times, I usually got a lot better with treatment. I know steroids are bad for you in so many ways, but they really helped when I had severe onsets of symptoms. Now, it has turned into Secondary Progressive (SPMS). I know sun is good for you, and I think I felt better, overall when we lived in San Diego, where the climate is, for the most part, temperate. (not too hot, not too cold). However, even while the sun is good for you, the heat is not, and can bring an exacerbation of symptoms on. Heat is frequently a big issue for folks with MS.I don't know how long you have been diagnosed, or if it is a firm diagnosis. Hope you have a good neurologist? There has been much written about certain diets over the years, but little to show they made much difference over eating healthy and well. Here is a link to a site you might find interesting: http://www.msviewsandrelatednews.com/LynnI myself have been told its possible that I have MS, so I'd like to see material here, as much as anyone has, endless thanks to whomever can do this for me and anyone else in the group who has just started their journey. Anna MariaLynn Ward <lynnward (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?thanks,Lynn Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

At 04:01 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:

Huh...never thought of that. While I don't each much with gluten in it

(not a big bread or cereal eater), I do eat some. It certainly is

something to consider. At his point, it wouldn't really involve deleting

too many things from my diet....Sure sounds as though your body has a bad

reaction to it For me, the medication to alleviate

pain and the muscle spasms slows the peristaltic movement of my bowels

down practically to nil. One of the best things I've ever found that

works really well is something called Lactulose - it's basically a syrup

made of a complex sugar.....One oz at night really does the trick for

me.....things move and with no pain. Most of my pain is caused by the

muscle spasms, several failed back surgeries and degenerative disk

disease.

Really appreciate the thought and your story. And, I'm definitely going

to consider it.

Lynn

ok this is going to sound most

perculiar

I am NOT diagnosed with MS.... but there was a time I was convinced I

probably had it....... I tried everything I could come up with.... to no

long standing positive effect...... my bowels were also

involved.... too soft too hard too

often not often enuff etc etc etc..... finally I went

gluten free and believe it or not the aches and pains in my body

everywhere are lesser and lesser each passing day............ I cannot

explain it.... my doc is not interested.... I am happy..........

happier and better than I have been in almost ten

years........ try it..... it takes time, but heck it cost nothing and if

it works for you then congrats......... by the way.... I have

challenged myself (last week( by eating a piece of not gluten free

cake.... arghhhhhh within an hour I was ill..... toilet frequency etc and

extreme body pains...... NO GLUTEN works for me

 

 

-

Lynn Ward

To:

 

Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:24 AM

Re: Questions about MS

At 01:21 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:

Hugh, thank you for your reply. I have been taking both of them

daily, but probably not enough. It's via a mulit-vitamin. What amounts

would you suggest? They were bad, got a bit better with help from

Zanaflex (Tizandine), and have just recently gotten a lot worse again.

Even when the spasms aren't as severe, it feels almost as though I'm

vibrating inside....Sounds weird, I know. Can't really think of another

way to describe it.

Lynn

 

Magnesium and B6.

 

Lynn Ward <lynnward

 

Monday, February 25, 2008 8:26:36 AM

Questions about MS

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of

people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who.

Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played

by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling -

the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very

long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever

that can alleviate them?

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

At 04:58 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:

Although I've never known anyone personally who's tried it, apparently a

number of people have found it effective. While I didn't feel as

desperate in past years, I'm approaching that point.

I wonder, just saw something on bees last night - they're trying to

figure out how or where so many have simply disappeared to. Turns out,

after the bees have disappeared, no other bees will go into their hive.

Usually, if nothing is wrong, other bees will go into the hive if it's

available and take the honey. With the bees that have disappeared, no bee

or bug will enter those hives. They're finding the bees' (the ones that

are left) immune systems are compromised (big shock with all the

pesticides, etc) and that they're undernourished (so sad, but not a

shock). Apparently they also have all kind of mites as well. It seems our

bees are not so healthy. So, in a round-a-bout way, I guess I'm wondering

- if the bees aren't as healthy anymore, do you think bee-sting therapy

would still be effective for some? I don't know - perhaps someone here

has a clue.

Lynn

You probably know all about

this.......but if I had this muscle decline, I certainly would try out

bee venom, If I lived in the states ( here I can not, only if I bought

some bees myself )

 

Den 26/02/2008 kl. 18.04 skrev Lynn Ward:

At 08:38 PM 2/25/2008, you

wrote:

Anna,

What symptoms have you had? What has caused the diagnosis? I've actually

had MS for more than 30 years now. Have had many ups and downs over the

years. Lucky for me, when I was first diagnosed, I had Relapsing

Remiting (RRMS), and while some things got pretty bad at times, I usually

got a lot better with treatment. I know steroids are bad for you in so

many ways, but they really helped when I had severe onsets of symptoms.

Now, it has turned into Secondary Progressive (SPMS). I know sun is good

for you, and I think I felt better, overall when we lived in San Diego,

where the climate is, for the most part, temperate. (not too hot, not too

cold). However, even while the sun is good for you, the heat is not, and

can bring an exacerbation of symptoms on. Heat is frequently a big issue

for folks with MS.

 

I don't know how long you have been diagnosed, or if it is a firm

diagnosis. Hope you have a good neurologist? There has been much written

about certain diets over the years, but little to show they made much

difference over eating healthy and well. Here is a link to a site you

might find interesting:

 

http://www.msviewsandrelatednews.com/

Lynn

I myself have been told its

possible that I have MS, so I'd like to see material here, as much as

anyone has, endless thanks to whomever can do this for me and anyone else

in the group who has just started their journey.

 

Anna Maria

Lynn Ward <lynnward

wrote:

 

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of

people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who.

Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played

by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling -

the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very

long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever

that can alleviate them?

[Guest guest]

I got no clue why those bees are sick and disappearing, but I am sure they are not disappearing because of the sting therapy. I do not think that you should sting your self with sick bees, but there still most be healthy bees around, and sure they die because of that, but so it is. According to the web there is thousands of people who is helped by this therapy.KennDen 27/02/2008 kl. 00.20 skrev Lynn Ward:At 04:58 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:Although I've never known anyone personally who's tried it, apparently a number of people have found it effective. While I didn't feel as desperate in past years, I'm approaching that point. I wonder, just saw something on bees last night - they're trying to figure out how or where so many have simply disappeared to. Turns out, after the bees have disappeared, no other bees will go into their hive. Usually, if nothing is wrong, other bees will go into the hive if it's available and take the honey. With the bees that have disappeared, no bee or bug will enter those hives. They're finding the bees' (the ones that are left) immune systems are compromised (big shock with all the pesticides, etc) and that they're undernourished (so sad, but not a shock). Apparently they also have all kind of mites as well. It seems our bees are not so healthy. So, in a round-a-bout way, I guess I'm wondering - if the bees aren't as healthy anymore, do you think bee-sting therapy would still be effective for some? I don't know - perhaps someone here has a clue.LynnYou probably know all about this.......but if I had this muscle decline, I certainly would try out bee venom, If I lived in the states ( here I can not, only if I bought some bees myself ) Den 26/02/2008 kl. 18.04 skrev Lynn Ward:At 08:38 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:Anna,What symptoms have you had? What has caused the diagnosis? I've actually had MS for more than 30 years now. Have had many ups and downs over the years. Lucky for me, when I was first diagnosed, I had Relapsing Remiting (RRMS), and while some things got pretty bad at times, I usually got a lot better with treatment. I know steroids are bad for you in so many ways, but they really helped when I had severe onsets of symptoms. Now, it has turned into Secondary Progressive (SPMS). I know sun is good for you, and I think I felt better, overall when we lived in San Diego, where the climate is, for the most part, temperate. (not too hot, not too cold). However, even while the sun is good for you, the heat is not, and can bring an exacerbation of symptoms on. Heat is frequently a big issue for folks with MS.I don't know how long you have been diagnosed, or if it is a firm diagnosis. Hope you have a good neurologist? There has been much written about certain diets over the years, but little to show they made much difference over eating healthy and well. Here is a link to a site you might find interesting: http://www.msviewsandrelatednews.com/LynnI myself have been told its possible that I have MS, so I'd like to see material here, as much as anyone has, endless thanks to whomever can do this for me and anyone else in the group who has just started their journey. Anna MariaLynn Ward <lynnward (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?

[Guest guest]

I admit I didn't read all these MS posts, but I had to chime in here.

I do research almost everyday for my autistic/seizure son and I see

stuff all the time on MS. Forgive me if I am repeating here.

Diet

Mega supplements

Detox

Immune Building with a colostrum powder is very important

I use Transfer Factor for my son and saw an improvement with the first

one. I have become a distributor now so I can get it cheaper. But

truly it is an awesome product. I used IGg 2ooo at first and didn't

notice anything.

Maryjo

 

 

In , Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

>

> At 04:58 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:

>

> Although I've never known anyone personally who's tried it,

> apparently a number of people have found it effective. While I didn't

> feel as desperate in past years, I'm approaching that point.

>

> I wonder, just saw something on bees last night - they're trying to

> figure out how or where so many have simply disappeared to. Turns

> out, after the bees have disappeared, no other bees will go into

> their hive. Usually, if nothing is wrong, other bees will go into the

> hive if it's available and take the honey. With the bees that have

> disappeared, no bee or bug will enter those hives. They're finding

> the bees' (the ones that are left) immune systems are compromised

> (big shock with all the pesticides, etc) and that they're

> undernourished (so sad, but not a shock). Apparently they also have

> all kind of mites as well. It seems our bees are not so healthy. So,

> in a round-a-bout way, I guess I'm wondering - if the bees aren't as

> healthy anymore, do you think bee-sting therapy would still be

> effective for some? I don't know - perhaps someone here has a clue.

>

> Lynn

>

> >You probably know all about this.......but if I had this muscle

> >decline, I certainly would try out bee venom, If I lived in the

> >states ( here I can not, only if I bought some bees myself )

> >

> >

> >Den 26/02/2008 kl. 18.04 skrev Lynn Ward:

> >

> >>At 08:38 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote:

> >>

> >>Anna,

> >>

> >>What symptoms have you had? What has caused the diagnosis? I've

> >>actually had MS for more than 30 years now. Have had many ups and

> >>downs over the years. Lucky for me, when I was first diagnosed, I

> >>had Relapsing Remiting (RRMS), and while some things got pretty

> >>bad at times, I usually got a lot better with treatment. I know

> >>steroids are bad for you in so many ways, but they really helped

> >>when I had severe onsets of symptoms. Now, it has turned into

> >>Secondary Progressive (SPMS). I know sun is good for you, and I

> >>think I felt better, overall when we lived in San Diego, where the

> >>climate is, for the most part, temperate. (not too hot, not too

> >>cold). However, even while the sun is good for you, the heat is

> >>not, and can bring an exacerbation of symptoms on. Heat is

> >>frequently a big issue for folks with MS.

> >>

> >>I don't know how long you have been diagnosed, or if it is a firm

> >>diagnosis. Hope you have a good neurologist? There has been much

> >>written about certain diets over the years, but little to show they

> >>made much difference over eating healthy and well. Here is a link

> >>to a site you might find interesting:

http://www.msviewsandrelatednews.com/

> >>

> >>Lynn

> >>

> >>>I myself have been told its possible that I have MS, so I'd like

> >>>to see material here, as much as anyone has, endless thanks to

> >>>whomever can do this for me and anyone else in the group who has

> >>>just started their journey.

> >>>

> >>>Anna Maria

> >>>

> >>>Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

> >>I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of

> >>people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall

> >>who. Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so

> >>down-played by the media), there is one that has been particularly

> >>troubling - the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help

> >>much or for very long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin

> >>or mineral or whatever that can alleviate them?

>

[Guest guest]

A good site for supplements for MS or whatever is www.mynsp.com/herbal

because it has over 600 items such as homepathic, essential oil, herbs,

etc plus a health analyzer quiz.

 

With MS, I'd try also a nervine formula of herbs which help the myelin

sheaths which covers the nerves, such as a formula on there

called " Eight " because it has 8 herbs.

 

Do you take essential fatty acids and fiber? You do need large

amounts of B-complex and B-6 also for awhile. A colon cleanse would

be helpful too.

 

Don't forget about Super Algae for minerals. Eat only organic foods,

no sugar. You can get Xylitol sugar from the link above, which is

real sugar from corn which does not cause tooth decay like cane

sugar. No dairy, gluten, wheat, oat, barley, splelt or rye, except

sprouted. Rice, millet and buckwheat OK. Egg yolks plus liquid

chlorophyll have been used to feed the myelin sheath.

 

Carol

[Guest guest]

Carol, thank you for the response, i will keep it when i know more, hopfully sooner then later, hugs. AnnaCarol Hartwell <nathlth wrote: A good site for supplements for MS or whatever is www.mynsp.com/herbal because it has over 600 items such as homepathic, essential oil, herbs, etc plus a health analyzer quiz.With MS, I'd try also a nervine formula of herbs which help the myelin sheaths which covers the nerves, such as a formula on there called "Eight" because it has

8 herbs.Do you take essential fatty acids and fiber? You do need large amounts of B-complex and B-6 also for awhile. A colon cleanse would be helpful too.Don't forget about Super Algae for minerals. Eat only organic foods, no sugar. You can get Xylitol sugar from the link above, which is real sugar from corn which does not cause tooth decay like cane sugar. No dairy, gluten, wheat, oat, barley, splelt or rye, except sprouted. Rice, millet and buckwheat OK. Egg yolks plus liquid chlorophyll have been used to feed the myelin sheath.Carol

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[Guest guest]

At 06:39 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:

No, I didn't think they were.....*smile* Guess I wasn't totally clear,

though - the researchers are now finding that a lot of bees aren't so

healthy, including the ostensibly healthy ones They have no clue what has

caused the others to disappear - because they can't even find any little

bee bodies. I'm going to have to look into the bee-sting therapy for real

- like I said, I never thought I'd be in a position to ever really

consider it. Ah, how things can change.......

Thanks for the suggestion - at this point I think I need to look at all

options. Just a tad bit scared of the stingy-thing, though. Even though I

get shots every day, knowingly setting myself up for something that is

going to hurt is scary.

thanks again,

Lynn

 

I got no clue why those bees are

sick and disappearing, but I am sure they are not disappearing because of

the sting therapy. I do not think that you should sting your self with

sick bees, but there still most be healthy bees around, and sure they die

because of that, but so it is. According to the web there is thousands of

people who is helped by this therapy.

Kenn

Den 27/02/2008 kl. 00.20 skrev Lynn Ward:

At 04:58 PM 2/26/2008, you

wrote:

Although I've never known anyone personally who's tried it, apparently a

number of people have found it effective. While I didn't feel as

desperate in past years, I'm approaching that point.

I wonder, just saw something on bees last night - they're trying to

figure out how or where so many have simply disappeared to. Turns out,

after the bees have disappeared, no other bees will go into their hive.

Usually, if nothing is wrong, other bees will go into the hive if it's

available and take the honey. With the bees that have disappeared, no bee

or bug will enter those hives. They're finding the bees' (the ones that

are left) immune systems are compromised (big shock with all the

pesticides, etc) and that they're undernourished (so sad, but not a

shock). Apparently they also have all kind of mites as well. It seems our

bees are not so healthy. So, in a round-a-bout way, I guess I'm wondering

- if the bees aren't as healthy anymore, do you think bee-sting therapy

would still be effective for some? I don't know - perhaps someone here

has a clue.

Lynn

You probably know all about

this.......but if I had this muscle decline, I certainly would try out

bee venom, If I lived in the states ( here I can not, only if I bought

some bees myself )

 

Den 26/02/2008 kl. 18.04 skrev Lynn Ward:

At 08:38 PM 2/25/2008, you

wrote:

Anna,

What symptoms have you had? What has caused the diagnosis? I've actually

had MS for more than 30 years now. Have had many ups and downs over the

years. Lucky for me, when I was first diagnosed, I had Relapsing

Remiting (RRMS), and while some things got pretty bad at times, I usually

got a lot better with treatment. I know steroids are bad for you in so

many ways, but they really helped when I had severe onsets of symptoms.

Now, it has turned into Secondary Progressive (SPMS). I know sun is good

for you, and I think I felt better, overall when we lived in San Diego,

where the climate is, for the most part, temperate. (not too hot, not too

cold). However, even while the sun is good for you, the heat is not, and

can bring an exacerbation of symptoms on. Heat is frequently a big issue

for folks with MS.

I don't know how long you have been diagnosed, or if it is a firm

diagnosis. Hope you have a good neurologist? There has been much written

about certain diets over the years, but little to show they made much

difference over eating healthy and well. Here is a link to a site you

might find interesting:

 

http://www.msviewsandrelatednews.com/

Lynn

I myself have been told its

possible that I have MS, so I'd like to see material here, as much as

anyone has, endless thanks to whomever can do this for me and anyone else

in the group who has just started their journey.

 

Anna Maria

Lynn Ward <lynnward

wrote:

 

I've been hesitant to do this, but here goes....I know a couple of

people in the group have MS (multiple sclerosis), but don't recall who.

Aside from some of the standard symptoms (which are often so down-played

by the media), there is one that has been particularly troubling -

the terrible muscle spasms that nothing seems to help much or for very

long. Has anyone heard of any particular vitamin or mineral or whatever

that can alleviate them?

[Guest guest]

At 07:37 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:

Carol,

Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of some of the things you

said.

Appreciate the info,

Lynn

A good site for supplements for

MS or whatever is

 

www.mynsp.com/herbal

because it has over 600 items such as homepathic, essential oil, herbs,

 

etc plus a health analyzer quiz.

With MS, I'd try also a nervine formula of herbs which help the myelin

 

sheaths which covers the nerves, such as a formula on there

called " Eight " because it has 8 herbs.

Do you take essential fatty acids and fiber? You do need large

amounts of B-complex and B-6 also for awhile. A colon cleanse would

be helpful too.

Don't forget about Super Algae for minerals. Eat only organic foods,

 

no sugar. You can get Xylitol sugar from the link above, which is

real sugar from corn which does not cause tooth decay like cane

sugar. No dairy, gluten, wheat, oat, barley, splelt or rye, except

sprouted. Rice, millet and buckwheat OK. Egg yolks plus liquid

chlorophyll have been used to feed the myelin sheath.

Carol