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Fw: [Lis-LEAF] What is it with these clueless Christians?

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:59:53 -0500

 

 

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Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:20 AM

[Lis-LEAF] What is it with these clueless Christians?

**For Endless War and Against Ron Paul*

<http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20080212.html>

*

" For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs

and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. " Mark 13:22

(KJV)

" And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they

should believe a lie. " II Thessalonians 2:11 (KJV)

*

RELATED:

* <http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019372.html>Ron Paul's

Texas Opponent <http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019369.html>

Ron Paul Smeared Overseas

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019372.html>

Did Ron Crash YouTube?

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019373.html>

Re: A Deeper Meaning to Ron Paul

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019371.html>

What's with all these clueless Christians? How is it that people who

have the benefit of the indwelling Holy Spirit, and the warning and

insight of the Sacred Scriptures--not to mention a rich Christian

heritage here in America--can be so ignorant, blind, and naïve? Yes, the

majority of evangelical Christians seem to be all of the above. The

problem has passed being serious: it is catastrophic!

How is it that we have drifted away from being an informed, active,

knowledgeable, and dedicated group of highly motivated Christian

patriots to a group of impotent and anemic sheep? Our Christian

forebears must be turning over in their graves, because we are in the

process of squandering the greatest human sacrifice--save that of the

sacrifice of Jesus Christ--ever made: the sacrifice of America's

Founding Fathers.

The problem is manifold, of course. For the most part, our pastors have

become glorified politicians and business executives. As attorneys are

not schooled in the Constitution, today's ministers are not schooled in

the Scriptures. They are motivational speakers, salesmen, and business

managers. The Bible is only used as a side reference, if at all. It is

not taught or preached literally. Pastors go through the Bible the way

people go through a salad bar: gleaning a few sweet-tasting morsels and

rejecting everything that appears the least bit distasteful.

Then there is the " fit-in-with-the-brethren " mentality. The politicos in

Washington, D.C., have nothing on many pastors' fellowship groups.

Fitting in with the denomination seems to be a far greater priority than

being an independent man of God. And, of course, let's not forget the

importance of not " making waves " with the deacons, elders, or church

trustees. In a word, today's pastors have been very effectively neutered.

Another problem is the way our pastors and churches have become

" success " driven. Churches used to focus on truth and discipleship. No

more. The church-growth movement of the last three decades has produced

a generation of Christians much more concerned about crowds, buildings,

and activities than they are fidelity to truth. Church has become a

numbers game where success is measured by attendance and offerings.

There is yet another problem: today's churches are completely enamored

with power. No, not the power of God. They are completely infatuated

with the power of men. Rich men. Popular men. Influential men.

Celebrities. Politicians. Millionaires. Sports stars, etc.

Yet, listen to what God tells us about rich and powerful men. " Do not

rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? " James 2:6

(KJV)

Historically, it has always been the super-wealthy, super-powerful

elements of society that have brought tyranny and persecution to God's

people. It is the political and business elite who have trampled

people's freedoms and liberties, enslaved their children, and ravaged

their lands and properties.

Nothing has changed: the super-elite in the United States and Europe are

continuing to do what they have always done. Both the Republican and

Democrat parties are controlled by those who desire to create a

globalistic society in which they will control the world's materials and

peoples.

Both George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush have contributed to the

tyrannical goals and ambitions of the super-elite. So has Bill Clinton.

If John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama is

elected, they will follow in the globalist footsteps of their predecessors.

The Christian professions of our political leaders mean nothing.

Absolutely nothing! Putting an " R " behind his or her name also means

nothing. Neither does calling oneself a " conservative " mean anything.

Our political leaders are mostly walking in lockstep with the evil

designs of the super-wealthy. Ditto for the executives who control our

major media.

And our Christians and ministers seem to be absolutely clueless.

James Dobson endorses Mike Huckabee, as does Jerry Falwell, Jr., while

Gary Bauer endorses John McCain. Yet, the truth is, one is as bad as the

other. In fact, Huckabee is posturing himself to be McCain's running

mate after McCain wins the nomination. Does anyone really believe that

Mike Huckabee would turn down an invitation from John McCain to be his

running mate? Get serious! Mike Huckabee would support the liberal,

Big-Government John McCain with all of the enthusiasm he could muster.

Why? Because Huckabee, himself, is a Big-Government liberal who has

joined ideological forces with the super-elite who run both parties.

And no one within the Religious Right seems to get it. Say you are

" pro-life " and " pro-family " and you are " in. " Forget the Constitution.

Forget national sovereignty and independence. Forget the principles of

sound money. Forget the Bill of Rights. Forget " Just War " theory. Forget

non-interventionism. Forget protecting American jobs and manufacturing.

Forget putting America first. It's all about getting along with the

establishment, having a seat at the table, and enjoying the perks of power.

Christians are supposed to be different. We are supposed to think

differently. We are clearly commanded to " be not conformed to this world. "

In addition, as Americans, our heritage and history is that of being

" non-conformist. " We loved liberty, freedom, and independence. We

recognized no sovereign authority, save that of Jesus Christ. We

believed in self-reliance and hard work. We didn't expect government

handouts or charity. We believed in disciplining our children and did

not expect that they would learn their values from government schools.

We viewed human government with deep suspicion and demanded that it be

held in check by powerful Bible preaching and by the constraints and

restrictions of the U.S. Constitution.

Remember, it was the political and business elite who killed the Old

Testament prophets, persecuted the early church, and crucified the Lord

Jesus Christ. It was the political and business elite who oppressed our

Pilgrim forebears. It was the political and business elite who tried to

stamp out liberty and independence from the American colonies. And it is

those same political and business elite who are forcing globalism,

socialism, and fascism upon the American people today.

And our pastors and churches seem to be absolutely clueless.

Furthermore, when someone appears from outside the elitist mainstream,

someone such as Congressman Ron Paul, he is ostracized, ignored, and

even lampooned by the very people who should embrace and support him

most: evangelical Christians.

The truth is, America is in the doo-doo we are in because of the

cluelessness and cowardice of today's Christians. Or, has the elect been

deceived? Have they succumbed to delusion? The result is the same either

way.

*If you enjoyed this column and want to help me distribute these

editorial opinions to an ever-growing audience, please send your check

or Money Order to:

Chuck Baldwin Live

P.O. Box 37070

Pensacola, Florida 32526

AND SEE:

*Chicken Doves*

<http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/18349197/the_chicken_doves>

- how the Democrats surrendered to Bush on the war, and betrayed the

peace movement

*NAIS? Oink!* <http://www.lewrockwell.com/hein/hein183.html> our animal

surveillance state

*Dangerous Forced Medication*

<http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/features/is-fluoride-safe-780948.html>

- fluoridation

*Sycophant for the State*

<http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/02/10/wallace/index.html>

Chris Wallace

The Only Wasted Vote

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019368.html>

It's Not Who Votes That Counts, But . . .

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019367.html>

Not So Fast Republicans

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019366.html>

 

Why the Conservatives Love Scalia

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019363.html>

Southern Man is a statist

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019364.html>

 

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