SINUS DRAINAGE METHODS

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Sinusitis/Cold/Flu/MCS/Allergies/Etc

 

SINUS DRAINAGE METHODS

 

In 1992 someone gave me a book they acquired from the estate of a

deceased employer. The book was entitled " The Herbalist " (1934) by

Joseph Meyer. Under the heading of " Myrtle " (Bayberry) I read the

following, " Powdered, it has been employed as a snuff, with good

effect, in nasal congestions or catarrah. " The powdered bark of the

root is the part that is used as a snuff. The book did not tell how

much to sniff so I had to experiment. I found that about 1/32-1/16 of

a teaspoon up the nostrils was effective for me. At times I would

dillute the bayberry with an equal part or less of goldenseal root

powder to lessen the irritating effects and add an antibiotic

property.

 

 

It acts as a mild irritant that initiates a draining response and at

times a violent sneezing respose. The effects reminded me of when we

had to break the seal(remove) our gas masks(CX-tear gas/gas chamber)

during basic training at Ft. Dix, NJ. After using this for a few

weeks my paranasal sinuses began to pop(hear & feel) and finally I had

a foul(rotten flesh odor) mucus drain out of my sinuses. The foul

odor/ taste was the same one that I experienced years before, after

my first septal reconstruction when the nasal packing was removed

(surgical infection). After this foul drainage I went to an ENT. X-

ray=sinusitis. Augmentin! Within a few days to a week I developed

bronchitis and eventually pneumonia and pleurisy. I stayed in bed for

about a month until I recovered. It was a spooky experience.

 

 

Although I felt tremendously better it still felt like I had sinus

problems and I still had environmental sensitivities, especially to

moldy/musty odors and some chemicals(chlorine,strong chemical

odors,etc.). I should add that my severe night sweats were eliminated

after draining the rotten flesh odor from my sinuses. During this

period I accidently sniffed 3% hydrogen peroxide into my nostrils

thinking it was Alkolol(bottles are similar). The results were

similar to the bayberry and CX gas, relief. The effects of 3% HP are

not comfortable and I found lesser strengths were not as effective.

 

 

In 1995 I began to use colloidal silver sniffed or sprayed into my

nose. It gave me symptomatic relief. Grapefruit seed extract(GSE) is

something I had been experimenting with(1994) as an oral antibiotic

for my sinusitis and prostatitis but it would be a few years before I

would try it as a nasal wash and spray. About this time I heard a

radio program with Wayne Green talking about electrotherapy and

infections. Several years before that I had read Hulda Clark's

description of her zapper and made a photocopy of the circuit and

instructions.

 

 

In about 1997 I began to use GSE as a nasal wash and spray. Several

drops to an ounce of distilled water gave me incredible relief. The

more irritating it was, the more my sinuses drained, and the better

I felt. After trying all these methods I still felt like I had

sinusitis, it just wasn't as bad as it had been prior to trying the

bayberry snuff(1992). I wanted to eliminate my chronic sinusitis.

 

 

Sometime in about 1998 I read about a backcopy of Wayne Green's radio

communications magazine that had a schemetic(Thomas Miller) of a

colloidal silver generator and info about the " bioelectrifier " . I

built both and kept experimenting for a sinus cure. The

bioelectrifier is also known as the Beck blood electrifier. I also

built a Clark zapper.

 

 

One day I decided I would use the bioelectrifier on my face(over

paranasal sinuses) but I didn't experience anything. Then I got the

idea of placing the electrodes in my nostrils. After experimenting

for a while I found a place inside the nostrils that when stimulated

a violent sneezing attack would begin followed by a tremendous amount

of virus tasting mucus drainage. I found the relief I had been

looking for. The more I used this method, the better I felt.

 

 

Being the curious person that I am, I wanted to determine why that

one area inside my nostrils produced the effects that I was

experiencing. I tried wet electrodes and dry electrodes with no

electrical signal. I tried wet Q-tips. The wet Q-tips produced good

results with a vigorous massage of one certain area. The stationary

electrodes to the same area with no signal produced a mild sneeze or

two, but nothing spectacular. I continued to use the bioelectrifier

for a month or a little more until no more virus tasting mucus would

drain and then I no longer felt like I had sinusitis(1999).

 

 

A few years went by with no sinus symptoms. I was curious about my

experience and some things I had read about orthodox and alternative

electrotherapy. I need to mention that I have a college degree in

electronics and for 6 years I was in a USAR field hospital unit as a

biomedical electronic technician(35G/U). Eventually I was also the

unit librarian and on the field sanitation team. My MS degree minor

was in biology and some things I had read/learned in a microbiology

course and self-study drove me to research and experiment with a

function(electrical signal) generator so I bought a B & K 4011A.

 

 

As my luck would have it, I came down with a bad acute sinus

infection in about 2002/2003. Migranes, environmental sensitivities,

facial pressure and pain,etc. It took me awhile to realize I again

had a sinus infection. I experimented with the B & K with no

spectacular results until I used 315Khz and 320Khz. Wow! The B & K did

in less than a week what the bioelectrifier had taken over a month to

do. But with the B & K you couldn't feel anything, no electrical

stimulating sensation. Again the drainage tasted like a virus.

 

 

This past winter I was away from home and staying in a very moldy

environment. My bathroom was saturated with black mold. I came down

with one of the worst acute sinus and bronchial infections I have

ever had. I didn't have an electrotherapy device with me so I had to

rely on my immune system and the elimination of the bathroom mold. It

took almost a month to get well.

 

 

My recommendations for sinus drainage(in order):

1)Function Generator(-20db[down 20db] atten., square wave, full pos

dc offset,full output but -20db)-(Note)

2)Bioelectrifier(var freq;freq. where eye/optic nerve quits flashing)-

(Note)

3)2 Wet Q-Tips

4)</=4.5Vdc battery w/ 1Mohm pot-(Note)

5)GSE wash/spray(>/= 3 drops/oz dist H2O)

6)Bayberry root bark snuff(1/32-1/16tsp)

7)Hydrogen Peroxide(</= 3%)

Note- Always use cloth covered electrodes; I use 12ga silver

electrodes

 

 

Area Inside Nostrils To Massage or Place Electrodes:

Place a finger on the bridge of your nose and slide it down until you

feel where the nasal bone and cartilage(rhinion) meet. Under this

spot in the roof of your nostrils is about a 1/2 " area that is

stimulated to produce violent sneezing and extreme drainage.

Vigorously, but gently, massage this area with a wet Q-tip in each

nostril at the same time. It may take 1-4 minutes until you react.

With the electrical methods you do not need to massage the area but

move the electrodes around slowly until you find a very sensitive

spot. Keep them in this spot for 10 seconds or so and move them.

Repeat. It can take 30 seconds to 5 minutes for the violent sneezing

and drainage to begin.

 

 

Precautions:

You really need some type of oral antiseptic and/or antibiotic to

prevent spread of infection to yourself or others(Soap, Peroxide,

GSE, Chlorine-equip & environ, Colloidal Silver, etc). Gargle, wash

nostrils, hands, and face. Wash/clean equipment and electrodes. You

should also have some paper towels to wipe up the mucus off of you

and your surroundings. The first few times I used the bioelectrifier

for drainage a few ounces of virus tasting mucus came out. On a few

occasions I have had a small amount of blood come out with the mucus.

Don't be alarmed over a small amount. Use common sense. If you have

legitimate questions let me know.

 

 

BE CAREFUL! PA

 

----

 

 

The following methods are an effective treatment and cure for

sinusitis,flu,cold,mcs,allergies,etc. The Q-tip method and electronic

electrode placement instructions are at the bottom of this post.

 

Paul

 

 

Sinus Drainage Methods

 

 

I used a Beck blood electrifier(BE-thumper) with adjustable frequency

control the first time I discovered the area I mentioned applying the

q-tips to(Original Post Below). I do not use the BE in the intended

manner and I built my own. I use 12 gauge silver wire electrodes with

wetted cotton flannel sleeves. I used both 4hz and about 60hz

(preferred-frequency where the optic nerve/eye quits flashing) and

started with the lowest current setting working my way up to a

tingling sensation. Apply the electrodes to the same area as the q-

tips but instead of moving them around vigorously, find a sensitive

area and leave them for 15-20 seconds before moving them again.

Repeat this interval and/or move slowly around in the mentioned area.

It may take up to 4-5 minutes to start a violent sneezing attack

coupled with the drainage. Be prepared, I voided what tasted like a

virus and it actually gave me slight cold/flu symptoms while

performing this procedure. Keep on slowly stimulating the area until

you quit sneezing. I had a violent sneezing attack that lasted about

4 minutes before it quit. The first time I probably voided about a

1/5 cup of salty virus tasting mucus and I got instant relief. I

found doing it several times(2-3) daily was the best approach. It

took about 2 weeks for the virus taste to go away and the mucus

expelled was far less than at the beginning. I didn't have sinusitis

again for several years and I didn't give it time to set in before

attacking it. Two cautions: 1)The drainage may be contagious, so be

careful(CS,GSE,H2O2);2)On a few occasions a small amount of blood

would come out with the mucus but I never had a running nose bleed

and I never worried about it.

 

 

Clean every thing you sneeze/sling mucus on. You will probably get

your shirt wet with mucus. Be careful! Don't spread infection!!!

 

 

This is my favorite electronic sinus drainage method.

The BK works much better, much faster, you don't need to use

it as often or as long to get the job done, and you can't

feel anything. I use a BK 4011A Function Generator(standard

electronic test instrument) with the same electrodes and placement

used with the Beck. The settings are: 315Khz and 320Khz(start with

one frequency for 5 minutes then go to the other for same - be

patient, sometimes you think it's not going to work and it takes you

by suprise), -20db attenuation(down 20db output-very important), full

positive DC offset, square wave, and full output level(but down 20db;

if you don't do this the output is very uncomfortable).

 

 

The BK can be ordered from electronics parts houses and probably

costs about $350.00. You can get a Beck schematic off of the internet

to build your own. Most parts can be bought at Radio Shack. You can

also find new and complete Beck units($50.00-$100.00) on the

internet. I made my own electrodes with 12 gauge silver wire and they

are about 1.25 inches long. Use cotton cloth covers for the

electrodes. I wet the electrodes with colloidal silver or distilled

water. You can find silver wire on the internet.

 

Good Luck,

Paul

 

----

 

Notes:

Sinus Drainage Methods - Q-Tip/Electrode Placement

 

For quick sinus relief try the following:

Slide your finger down the ridge of

your nose until you come to the junction

where bone becomes cartilage.Directly under

your finger at this junction, on the ceiling of

each nostril are two very sensitive areas about

3/4 " in diameter. Take two wet q-tips and insert one

into each nostril. Massage the sensitive areas

simultaneously, and vigorously but gently. Within a

few minutes you will experience a violent sneezing

attack followed by sinus cavity drainage. Continue

to massage until you get relief. Do this

frequently. I cured my sinusitis using a similar

method(electronic). It's a good idea to gargle and rinse

your nasal passages with an alternative antibiotic like

cs or gse to prevent the introduction of drained

infection into your throat, lungs, etc. Also

clean anything you sneezed on.

 

PA

[Guest guest]

Excellent post, a keeper for sure. Between colloidal silver, goji, and noni juices I feel like all past health concerns are history. I don't believe in germs any more, I have shut down bronchitis and who knows what else with this relativly new knowledge. Of course the wife and others think Iv'e gone stark raving mad, I have learned to be careful with this new knowledge, timing is everything. DB rpautrey2 <rpautrey2 wrote: Sinusitis/Cold/Flu/MCS/Allergies/EtcSINUS DRAINAGE METHODS In 1992 someone

gave me a book they acquired from the estate of a deceased employer. The book was entitled "The Herbalist"(1934) by Joseph Meyer. Under the heading of "Myrtle"(Bayberry) I read the following, "Powdered, it has been employed as a snuff, with good effect, in nasal congestions or catarrah." The powdered bark of the root is the part that is used as a snuff. The book did not tell how much to sniff so I had to experiment. I found that about 1/32-1/16 of a teaspoon up the nostrils was effective for me. At times I would dillute the bayberry with an equal part or less of goldenseal root powder to lessen the irritating effects and add an antibiotic property. It acts as a mild irritant that initiates a draining response and at times a violent sneezing respose. The effects reminded me of when we had to break the seal(remove) our gas masks(CX-tear gas/gas chamber) during basic training at Ft. Dix, NJ. After using this for a

few weeks my paranasal sinuses began to pop(hear & feel) and finally I had a foul(rotten flesh odor) mucus drain out of my sinuses. The foul odor/ taste was the same one that I experienced years before, after my first septal reconstruction when the nasal packing was removed (surgical infection). After this foul drainage I went to an ENT. X- ray=sinusitis. Augmentin! Within a few days to a week I developed bronchitis and eventually pneumonia and pleurisy. I stayed in bed for about a month until I recovered. It was a spooky experience. Although I felt tremendously better it still felt like I had sinus problems and I still had environmental sensitivities, especially to moldy/musty odors and some chemicals(chlorine,strong chemical odors,etc.). I should add that my severe night sweats were eliminated after draining the rotten flesh odor from my sinuses. During this period I accidently sniffed 3% hydrogen

peroxide into my nostrils thinking it was Alkolol(bottles are similar). The results were similar to the bayberry and CX gas, relief. The effects of 3% HP are not comfortable and I found lesser strengths were not as effective. In 1995 I began to use colloidal silver sniffed or sprayed into my nose. It gave me symptomatic relief. Grapefruit seed extract(GSE) is something I had been experimenting with(1994) as an oral antibiotic for my sinusitis and prostatitis but it would be a few years before I would try it as a nasal wash and spray. About this time I heard a radio program with Wayne Green talking about electrotherapy and infections. Several years before that I had read Hulda Clark's description of her zapper and made a photocopy of the circuit and instructions. In about 1997 I began to use GSE as a nasal wash and spray. Several drops to an ounce of distilled water gave me incredible relief. The more

irritating it was, the more my sinuses drained, and the better I felt. After trying all these methods I still felt like I had sinusitis, it just wasn't as bad as it had been prior to trying the bayberry snuff(1992). I wanted to eliminate my chronic sinusitis. Sometime in about 1998 I read about a backcopy of Wayne Green's radio communications magazine that had a schemetic(Thomas Miller) of a colloidal silver generator and info about the "bioelectrifier". I built both and kept experimenting for a sinus cure. The bioelectrifier is also known as the Beck blood electrifier. I also built a Clark zapper. One day I decided I would use the bioelectrifier on my face(over paranasal sinuses) but I didn't experience anything. Then I got the idea of placing the electrodes in my nostrils. After experimenting for a while I found a place inside the nostrils that when stimulated a violent sneezing attack would begin

followed by a tremendous amount of virus tasting mucus drainage. I found the relief I had been looking for. The more I used this method, the better I felt. Being the curious person that I am, I wanted to determine why that one area inside my nostrils produced the effects that I was experiencing. I tried wet electrodes and dry electrodes with no electrical signal. I tried wet Q-tips. The wet Q-tips produced good results with a vigorous massage of one certain area. The stationary electrodes to the same area with no signal produced a mild sneeze or two, but nothing spectacular. I continued to use the bioelectrifier for a month or a little more until no more virus tasting mucus would drain and then I no longer felt like I had sinusitis(1999). A few years went by with no sinus symptoms. I was curious about my experience and some things I had read about orthodox and alternative electrotherapy. I need to mention

that I have a college degree in electronics and for 6 years I was in a USAR field hospital unit as a biomedical electronic technician(35G/U). Eventually I was also the unit librarian and on the field sanitation team. My MS degree minor was in biology and some things I had read/learned in a microbiology course and self-study drove me to research and experiment with a function(electrical signal) generator so I bought a B & K 4011A. As my luck would have it, I came down with a bad acute sinus infection in about 2002/2003. Migranes, environmental sensitivities, facial pressure and pain,etc. It took me awhile to realize I again had a sinus infection. I experimented with the B & K with no spectacular results until I used 315Khz and 320Khz. Wow! The B & K did in less than a week what the bioelectrifier had taken over a month to do. But with the B & K you couldn't feel anything, no electrical stimulating

sensation. Again the drainage tasted like a virus. This past winter I was away from home and staying in a very moldy environment. My bathroom was saturated with black mold. I came down with one of the worst acute sinus and bronchial infections I have ever had. I didn't have an electrotherapy device with me so I had to rely on my immune system and the elimination of the bathroom mold. It took almost a month to get well. My recommendations for sinus drainage(in order): 1)Function Generator(-20db[down 20db] atten., square wave, full pos dc offset,full output but -20db)-(Note) 2)Bioelectrifier(var freq;freq. where eye/optic nerve quits flashing)-(Note) 3)2 Wet Q-Tips 4)</=4.5Vdc battery w/ 1Mohm pot-(Note) 5)GSE wash/spray(>/= 3 drops/oz dist H2O) 6)Bayberry root bark snuff(1/32-1/16tsp) 7)Hydrogen Peroxide(</= 3%) Note- Always use cloth covered electrodes; I use 12ga

silver electrodes Area Inside Nostrils To Massage or Place Electrodes: Place a finger on the bridge of your nose and slide it down until you feel where the nasal bone and cartilage(rhinion) meet. Under this spot in the roof of your nostrils is about a 1/2" area that is stimulated to produce violent sneezing and extreme drainage. Vigorously, but gently, massage this area with a wet Q-tip in each nostril at the same time. It may take 1-4 minutes until you react. With the electrical methods you do not need to massage the area but move the electrodes around slowly until you find a very sensitive spot. Keep them in this spot for 10 seconds or so and move them. Repeat. It can take 30 seconds to 5 minutes for the violent sneezing and drainage to begin. Precautions: You really need some type of oral antiseptic and/or antibiotic to prevent spread of infection to yourself or others(Soap, Peroxide, GSE,

Chlorine-equip & environ, Colloidal Silver, etc). Gargle, wash nostrils, hands, and face. Wash/clean equipment and electrodes. You should also have some paper towels to wipe up the mucus off of you and your surroundings. The first few times I used the bioelectrifier for drainage a few ounces of virus tasting mucus came out. On a few occasions I have had a small amount of blood come out with the mucus. Don't be alarmed over a small amount. Use common sense. If you have legitimate questions let me know. BE CAREFUL! PA -------------------------The following methods are an effective treatment and cure for sinusitis,flu,cold,mcs,allergies,etc. The Q-tip method and electronic electrode placement instructions are at the bottom of this post. Paul Sinus Drainage Methods I used a Beck blood electrifier(BE-thumper)

with adjustable frequency control the first time I discovered the area I mentioned applying the q-tips to(Original Post Below). I do not use the BE in the intended manner and I built my own. I use 12 gauge silver wire electrodes with wetted cotton flannel sleeves. I used both 4hz and about 60hz (preferred-frequency where the optic nerve/eye quits flashing) and started with the lowest current setting working my way up to a tingling sensation. Apply the electrodes to the same area as the q- tips but instead of moving them around vigorously, find a sensitive area and leave them for 15-20 seconds before moving them again. Repeat this interval and/or move slowly around in the mentioned area. It may take up to 4-5 minutes to start a violent sneezing attack coupled with the drainage. Be prepared, I voided what tasted like a virus and it actually gave me slight cold/flu symptoms while performing this procedure. Keep on

slowly stimulating the area until you quit sneezing. I had a violent sneezing attack that lasted about 4 minutes before it quit. The first time I probably voided about a 1/5 cup of salty virus tasting mucus and I got instant relief. I found doing it several times(2-3) daily was the best approach. It took about 2 weeks for the virus taste to go away and the mucus expelled was far less than at the beginning. I didn't have sinusitis again for several years and I didn't give it time to set in before attacking it. Two cautions: 1)The drainage may be contagious, so be careful(CS,GSE,H2O2);2)On a few occasions a small amount of blood would come out with the mucus but I never had a running nose bleed and I never worried about it. Clean every thing you sneeze/sling mucus on. You will probably get your shirt wet with mucus. Be careful! Don't spread infection!!! This is my favorite electronic sinus drainage method.

The BK works much better, much faster, you don't need to use it as often or as long to get the job done, and you can't feel anything. I use a BK 4011A Function Generator(standard electronic test instrument) with the same electrodes and placement used with the Beck. The settings are: 315Khz and 320Khz(start with one frequency for 5 minutes then go to the other for same - be patient, sometimes you think it's not going to work and it takes you by suprise), -20db attenuation(down 20db output-very important), full positive DC offset, square wave, and full output level(but down 20db; if you don't do this the output is very uncomfortable). The BK can be ordered from electronics parts houses and probably costs about $350.00. You can get a Beck schematic off of the internet to build your own. Most parts can be bought at Radio Shack. You can also find new and complete Beck units($50.00-$100.00) on the

internet. I made my own electrodes with 12 gauge silver wire and they are about 1.25 inches long. Use cotton cloth covers for the electrodes. I wet the electrodes with colloidal silver or distilled water. You can find silver wire on the internet. Good Luck, Paul -------------------------Notes:Sinus Drainage Methods - Q-Tip/Electrode Placement For quick sinus relief try the following: Slide your finger down the ridge of your nose until you come to the junction where bone becomes cartilage.Directly under your finger at this junction, on the ceiling of each nostril are two very sensitive areas about 3/4" in diameter. Take two wet q-tips and insert one into each nostril. Massage the sensitive areas simultaneously, and vigorously but gently. Within a few minutes you will experience a violent sneezing attack followed by

sinus cavity drainage. Continue to massage until you get relief. Do this frequently. I cured my sinusitis using a similar method(electronic). It's a good idea to gargle and rinse your nasal passages with an alternative antibiotic like cs or gse to prevent the introduction of drained infection into your throat, lungs, etc. Also clean anything you sneezed on. PA

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doug brush

Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:22 PM

Re: Re: SINUS DRAINAGE METHODS

Excellent post, a keeper for sure. Between colloidal silver, goji, and noni juices I feel like all past health concerns are history. I don't believe in germs any more, I have shut down bronchitis and who knows what else with this relativly new knowledge. Of course the wife and others think Iv'e gone stark raving mad, I have learned to be careful with this new knowledge, timing is everything. DB

[Guest guest]

I'm glad you enjoyed the post. PA

 

, doug brush <dougbrush

wrote:

>

> Excellent post, a keeper for sure. Between colloidal silver, goji,

and noni juices I feel like all past health concerns are history. I

don't believe in germs any more, I have shut down bronchitis and who

knows what else with this relativly new knowledge. Of course the wife

and others think Iv'e gone stark raving mad, I have learned to be

careful with this new knowledge, timing is everything. DB

>

> rpautrey2 <rpautrey2 wrote:

Sinusitis/Cold/Flu/MCS/Allergies/Etc

>

> SINUS DRAINAGE METHODS

>

> In 1992 someone gave me a book they acquired from the estate of a

> deceased employer. The book was entitled " The Herbalist " (1934) by

> Joseph Meyer. Under the heading of " Myrtle " (Bayberry) I read the

> following, " Powdered, it has been employed as a snuff, with good

> effect, in nasal congestions or catarrah. " The powdered bark of the

> root is the part that is used as a snuff. The book did not tell how

> much to sniff so I had to experiment. I found that about 1/32-1/16

of

> a teaspoon up the nostrils was effective for me. At times I would

> dillute the bayberry with an equal part or less of goldenseal root

> powder to lessen the irritating effects and add an antibiotic

> property.

>

> It acts as a mild irritant that initiates a draining response and

at

> times a violent sneezing respose. The effects reminded me of when

we

> had to break the seal(remove) our gas masks(CX-tear gas/gas

chamber)

> during basic training at Ft. Dix, NJ. After using this for a few

> weeks my paranasal sinuses began to pop(hear & feel) and finally I

had

> a foul(rotten flesh odor) mucus drain out of my sinuses. The foul

> odor/ taste was the same one that I experienced years before, after

> my first septal reconstruction when the nasal packing was removed

> (surgical infection). After this foul drainage I went to an ENT. X-

> ray=sinusitis. Augmentin! Within a few days to a week I developed

> bronchitis and eventually pneumonia and pleurisy. I stayed in bed

for

> about a month until I recovered. It was a spooky experience.

>

> Although I felt tremendously better it still felt like I had sinus

> problems and I still had environmental sensitivities, especially to

> moldy/musty odors and some chemicals(chlorine,strong chemical

> odors,etc.). I should add that my severe night sweats were

eliminated

> after draining the rotten flesh odor from my sinuses. During this

> period I accidently sniffed 3% hydrogen peroxide into my nostrils

> thinking it was Alkolol(bottles are similar). The results were

> similar to the bayberry and CX gas, relief. The effects of 3% HP

are

> not comfortable and I found lesser strengths were not as effective.

>

> In 1995 I began to use colloidal silver sniffed or sprayed into my

> nose. It gave me symptomatic relief. Grapefruit seed extract(GSE)

is

> something I had been experimenting with(1994) as an oral antibiotic

> for my sinusitis and prostatitis but it would be a few years before

I

> would try it as a nasal wash and spray. About this time I heard a

> radio program with Wayne Green talking about electrotherapy and

> infections. Several years before that I had read Hulda Clark's

> description of her zapper and made a photocopy of the circuit and

> instructions.

>

> In about 1997 I began to use GSE as a nasal wash and spray. Several

> drops to an ounce of distilled water gave me incredible relief. The

> more irritating it was, the more my sinuses drained, and the better

> I felt. After trying all these methods I still felt like I had

> sinusitis, it just wasn't as bad as it had been prior to trying the

> bayberry snuff(1992). I wanted to eliminate my chronic sinusitis.

>

> Sometime in about 1998 I read about a backcopy of Wayne Green's

radio

> communications magazine that had a schemetic(Thomas Miller) of a

> colloidal silver generator and info about the " bioelectrifier " . I

> built both and kept experimenting for a sinus cure. The

> bioelectrifier is also known as the Beck blood electrifier. I also

> built a Clark zapper.

>

> One day I decided I would use the bioelectrifier on my face(over

> paranasal sinuses) but I didn't experience anything. Then I got the

> idea of placing the electrodes in my nostrils. After experimenting

> for a while I found a place inside the nostrils that when

stimulated

> a violent sneezing attack would begin followed by a tremendous

amount

> of virus tasting mucus drainage. I found the relief I had been

> looking for. The more I used this method, the better I felt.

>

> Being the curious person that I am, I wanted to determine why that

> one area inside my nostrils produced the effects that I was

> experiencing. I tried wet electrodes and dry electrodes with no

> electrical signal. I tried wet Q-tips. The wet Q-tips produced good

> results with a vigorous massage of one certain area. The stationary

> electrodes to the same area with no signal produced a mild sneeze

or

> two, but nothing spectacular. I continued to use the bioelectrifier

> for a month or a little more until no more virus tasting mucus

would

> drain and then I no longer felt like I had sinusitis(1999).

>

> A few years went by with no sinus symptoms. I was curious about my

> experience and some things I had read about orthodox and

alternative

> electrotherapy. I need to mention that I have a college degree in

> electronics and for 6 years I was in a USAR field hospital unit as

a

> biomedical electronic technician(35G/U). Eventually I was also the

> unit librarian and on the field sanitation team. My MS degree minor

> was in biology and some things I had read/learned in a microbiology

> course and self-study drove me to research and experiment with a

> function(electrical signal) generator so I bought a B & K 4011A.

>

> As my luck would have it, I came down with a bad acute sinus

> infection in about 2002/2003. Migranes, environmental

sensitivities,

> facial pressure and pain,etc. It took me awhile to realize I again

> had a sinus infection. I experimented with the B & K with no

> spectacular results until I used 315Khz and 320Khz. Wow! The B & K

did

> in less than a week what the bioelectrifier had taken over a month

to

> do. But with the B & K you couldn't feel anything, no electrical

> stimulating sensation. Again the drainage tasted like a virus.

>

> This past winter I was away from home and staying in a very moldy

> environment. My bathroom was saturated with black mold. I came down

> with one of the worst acute sinus and bronchial infections I have

> ever had. I didn't have an electrotherapy device with me so I had

to

> rely on my immune system and the elimination of the bathroom mold.

It

> took almost a month to get well.

>

> My recommendations for sinus drainage(in order):

> 1)Function Generator(-20db[down 20db] atten., square wave, full pos

> dc offset,full output but -20db)-(Note)

> 2)Bioelectrifier(var freq;freq. where eye/optic nerve quits

flashing)-

> (Note)

> 3)2 Wet Q-Tips

> 4)</=4.5Vdc battery w/ 1Mohm pot-(Note)

> 5)GSE wash/spray(>/= 3 drops/oz dist H2O)

> 6)Bayberry root bark snuff(1/32-1/16tsp)

> 7)Hydrogen Peroxide(</= 3%)

> Note- Always use cloth covered electrodes; I use 12ga silver

> electrodes

>

> Area Inside Nostrils To Massage or Place Electrodes:

> Place a finger on the bridge of your nose and slide it down until

you

> feel where the nasal bone and cartilage(rhinion) meet. Under this

> spot in the roof of your nostrils is about a 1/2 " area that is

> stimulated to produce violent sneezing and extreme drainage.

> Vigorously, but gently, massage this area with a wet Q-tip in each

> nostril at the same time. It may take 1-4 minutes until you react.

> With the electrical methods you do not need to massage the area but

> move the electrodes around slowly until you find a very sensitive

> spot. Keep them in this spot for 10 seconds or so and move them.

> Repeat. It can take 30 seconds to 5 minutes for the violent

sneezing

> and drainage to begin.

>

> Precautions:

> You really need some type of oral antiseptic and/or antibiotic to

> prevent spread of infection to yourself or others(Soap, Peroxide,

> GSE, Chlorine-equip & environ, Colloidal Silver, etc). Gargle, wash

> nostrils, hands, and face. Wash/clean equipment and electrodes. You

> should also have some paper towels to wipe up the mucus off of you

> and your surroundings. The first few times I used the

bioelectrifier

> for drainage a few ounces of virus tasting mucus came out. On a few

> occasions I have had a small amount of blood come out with the

mucus.

> Don't be alarmed over a small amount. Use common sense. If you have

> legitimate questions let me know.

>

> BE CAREFUL! PA

>

> -------------------------

>

> The following methods are an effective treatment and cure for

> sinusitis,flu,cold,mcs,allergies,etc. The Q-tip method and

electronic

> electrode placement instructions are at the bottom of this post.

>

> Paul

>

> Sinus Drainage Methods

>

> I used a Beck blood electrifier(BE-thumper) with adjustable

frequency

> control the first time I discovered the area I mentioned applying

the

> q-tips to(Original Post Below). I do not use the BE in the intended

> manner and I built my own. I use 12 gauge silver wire electrodes

with

> wetted cotton flannel sleeves. I used both 4hz and about 60hz

> (preferred-frequency where the optic nerve/eye quits flashing) and

> started with the lowest current setting working my way up to a

> tingling sensation. Apply the electrodes to the same area as the q-

> tips but instead of moving them around vigorously, find a sensitive

> area and leave them for 15-20 seconds before moving them again.

> Repeat this interval and/or move slowly around in the mentioned

area.

> It may take up to 4-5 minutes to start a violent sneezing attack

> coupled with the drainage. Be prepared, I voided what tasted like a

> virus and it actually gave me slight cold/flu symptoms while

> performing this procedure. Keep on slowly stimulating the area

until

> you quit sneezing. I had a violent sneezing attack that lasted

about

> 4 minutes before it quit. The first time I probably voided about a

> 1/5 cup of salty virus tasting mucus and I got instant relief. I

> found doing it several times(2-3) daily was the best approach. It

> took about 2 weeks for the virus taste to go away and the mucus

> expelled was far less than at the beginning. I didn't have

sinusitis

> again for several years and I didn't give it time to set in before

> attacking it. Two cautions: 1)The drainage may be contagious, so be

> careful(CS,GSE,H2O2);2)On a few occasions a small amount of blood

> would come out with the mucus but I never had a running nose bleed

> and I never worried about it.

>

> Clean every thing you sneeze/sling mucus on. You will probably get

> your shirt wet with mucus. Be careful! Don't spread infection!!!

>

> This is my favorite electronic sinus drainage method.

> The BK works much better, much faster, you don't need to use

> it as often or as long to get the job done, and you can't

> feel anything. I use a BK 4011A Function Generator(standard

> electronic test instrument) with the same electrodes and placement

> used with the Beck. The settings are: 315Khz and 320Khz(start with

> one frequency for 5 minutes then go to the other for same - be

> patient, sometimes you think it's not going to work and it takes

you

> by suprise), -20db attenuation(down 20db output-very important),

full

> positive DC offset, square wave, and full output level(but down

20db;

> if you don't do this the output is very uncomfortable).

>

> The BK can be ordered from electronics parts houses and probably

> costs about $350.00. You can get a Beck schematic off of the

internet

> to build your own. Most parts can be bought at Radio Shack. You can

> also find new and complete Beck units($50.00-$100.00) on the

> internet. I made my own electrodes with 12 gauge silver wire and

they

> are about 1.25 inches long. Use cotton cloth covers for the

> electrodes. I wet the electrodes with colloidal silver or distilled

> water. You can find silver wire on the internet.

>

> Good Luck,

> Paul

>

> -------------------------

>

> Notes:

> Sinus Drainage Methods - Q-Tip/Electrode Placement

>

> For quick sinus relief try the following:

> Slide your finger down the ridge of

> your nose until you come to the junction

> where bone becomes cartilage.Directly under

> your finger at this junction, on the ceiling of

> each nostril are two very sensitive areas about

> 3/4 " in diameter. Take two wet q-tips and insert one

> into each nostril. Massage the sensitive areas

> simultaneously, and vigorously but gently. Within a

> few minutes you will experience a violent sneezing

> attack followed by sinus cavity drainage. Continue

> to massage until you get relief. Do this

> frequently. I cured my sinusitis using a similar

> method(electronic). It's a good idea to gargle and rinse

> your nasal passages with an alternative antibiotic like

> cs or gse to prevent the introduction of drained

> infection into your throat, lungs, etc. Also

> clean anything you sneezed on.

>

> PA

[Guest guest]

Jane,

I'm having problems interpreting your post. Translation?

 

rpautrey2

 

\ , " Jane MacRoss "

<highfield1 wrote:

>

> All mental cases think the rest of us are mad, Doug, welcome to the

club lol

>

> Jane

> -

> doug brush

>

> Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:22 PM

> Re: Re: SINUS DRAINAGE METHODS

>

>

> Excellent post, a keeper for sure. Between colloidal silver,

goji, and noni juices I feel like all past health concerns are

history. I don't believe in germs any more, I have shut down

bronchitis and who knows what else with this relativly new knowledge.

Of course the wife and others think Iv'e gone stark raving mad, I

have learned to be careful with this new knowledge, timing is

everything. DB

>

[Guest guest]

Doug's wife & friends think he has gone " stark raving mad " it seemed to me

that he is the only one among them who is probably behaving sensibly

............... therefore I am assuming that they are the ones who are more

likely to need their sanity testing ........

 

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" rpautrey2 " <rpautrey2

 

Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:04 PM

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Jane,

I'm having problems interpreting your post. Translation?

 

rpautrey2

 

\ , " Jane MacRoss "

<highfield1 wrote:

>

> All mental cases think the rest of us are mad, Doug, welcome to the

club lol

>

> Jane

> -

[Guest guest]

Thinking/acting outside the box is often viewed as being "stark raving mad" by people who believe and trust in the system.

 

Kenneth T

 

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Jane MacRoss

Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:25 AM

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Doug's wife & friends think he has gone "stark raving mad" it seemed to me that he is the only one among them who is probably behaving sensibly .............. therefore I am assuming that they are the ones who are more likely to need their sanity testing ........- "rpautrey2" <rpautrey2Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:04 PM Re: SINUS DRAINAGE METHODSJane,I'm having problems interpreting your post. Translation?rpautrey2\ , "Jane MacRoss"<highfield1 wrote:>> All mental cases think the rest of us are mad, Doug, welcome to theclub lol>> Jane> - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must :

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Ah thats what I was trying to say lol

 

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Kenneth

Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:31 PM

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Thinking/acting outside the box is often viewed as being "stark raving mad" by people who believe and trust in the system.