Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 How can you let this happen, and do nothing.....you are not even pissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Maybe there should be a private citizen hand count, not paid off by any candidate or special interest!. Sincerely Barb M. ---- kenn johnsen 1/11/2008 10:24:45 AM health_and_Healing YouTube - Is this Fraud?? How can you let this happen, and do nothing.....you are not even pissed.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 seen this one???? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AcBb3PudTcA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 An error........Come on....you do not believe that your self, so when will anyone correct that error.......? fredag 11. jan 2008 kl. 22:06 skrev Bill Kingsbury: > > This was a database error -- the names in the column headers > were all mixed up. How many other votes were mixed up, when > submitted by the various polling places, we may never know -- > unless there is an honest recount -- using un-tampered-with > data (if there is any??). That's why paper ballots ONLY, > kept in steel vaults, are a necessity for honest elections. > > --- At 07:24 AM 1/11/2008, kenn johnsen wrote: > > > > >How can you let this happen, and do nothing.....you are not even > pissed. > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 The error was fixed........fixed......right they fixed the numbers so it suits the frauded result. lørdag 12. jan 2008 kl. 00:27 skrev Bill Kingsbury: > > The error in question was fixed within six hours -- > by Wednesday morning in Boston. See: > > Ron Paul - Now The Boston Globe Changed Their Story > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0Oaw9tIPM > > --- At 02:52 PM 1/11/2008, kenn johnsen wrote: > > > > >An error........Come on....you do not believe that your self, > >so when will anyone correct that error.......? > > > > > >--- fredag 11. jan 2008 kl. 22:06 skrev Bill Kingsbury: > > > > > >>This was a database error -- the names in the column headers > >>were all mixed up. How many other votes were mixed up, when > >>submitted by the various polling places, we may never know -- > >>unless there is an honest recount -- using un-tampered-with > >>data (if there is any??). That's why paper ballots ONLY, > >>kept in steel vaults, are a necessity for honest elections. > >> > >> > >>--- At 07:24 AM 1/11/2008, kenn johnsen wrote: > >>> > >>>How can you let this happen, and do nothing.....you are not even > pissed. > >>> > >>> > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY > >>> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 A correction, I think it is fraudulent. lørdag 12. jan 2008 kl. 01:11 skrev kenn johnsen: > The error was fixed........fixed......right they fixed the numbers so > it suits the frauded result. > > > lørdag 12. jan 2008 kl. 00:27 skrev Bill Kingsbury: > >> >> The error in question was fixed within six hours -- >> by Wednesday morning in Boston. See: >> >> Ron Paul - Now The Boston Globe Changed Their Story >> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0Oaw9tIPM >> >> --- At 02:52 PM 1/11/2008, kenn johnsen wrote: >> > >> >> >An error........Come on....you do not believe that your self, >> >so when will anyone correct that error.......? >> > >> > >> >--- fredag 11. jan 2008 kl. 22:06 skrev Bill Kingsbury: >> > >> > >> >>This was a database error -- the names in the column headers >> >>were all mixed up. How many other votes were mixed up, when >> >>submitted by the various polling places, we may never know -- >> >>unless there is an honest recount -- using un-tampered-with >> >>data (if there is any??). That's why paper ballots ONLY, >> >>kept in steel vaults, are a necessity for honest elections. >> >> >> >> >> >>--- At 07:24 AM 1/11/2008, kenn johnsen wrote: >> >>> >> >>>How can you let this happen, and do nothing.....you are not even >> pissed. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY >> >>> >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I too am following this ' possible' ugly fraud, from a distance down here in Tasmania. Ron Paul's office just sent out a link to HIS OWN BLOG.... I notice the new staff person in charge of writing this blog never refers to fraudulent vote counting.... you have to wonder why. Especially when people with some credibility (my opinion) like John Hammell do believe fraud took place......... IAHF List: To paraphrase Thomas Paine, one of my favorite people from the Revolutionary War era because he was so outspoken: "These are the times that try men's (and women's) souls." http://www.ushistory.org/paine/ I don't know about you, but when it seemed to me like Ron Paul was going to just sweep the obvious vote fraud from the New Hampshire Primary under the rug and carry on with his campaign as if it didn't even happen- I was ready to MUTINY! I was hoppin' mad, and I know I wasn't alone- because many of you emailed me to express similar outraged sentiments. Devvy Kidd generated this superb article Devvy Kidd wrote this excellent article which I wrote to thank her for: she speaks for millions of us in this and I share her outrage and anger toward Ron Paul for not standing up for his constituents right now: http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd335.htmWILL RON PAUL AUTHORIZE AN AUDIT OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY?Because I want Ron to read this, I have lobbed it in to him via his brother, Reverend David Paul in Michigan who I am in contact with by phone and by email, and I have also lobbed it in to him via Norm Singleton, Ron's Legislative Director who I've known for years.When I emailed Devvy to thank her for her superbly written and very timely article, she emailed me back with this latest news: New Hampshire Republican Recount On the Cards http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/100108_recount.htm Thing is, I am still pissed off about this. The Granny Warriors (Linda Hunnicutt from North Carolina and her crew that travels nationwide in a mobile home stumping for RP) shouldn't have to bear this burden, Ron should have taken some of the $20 Million we broke our asses to raise for him and he should have been willing to emulate Dennis Kucinich who authorized a recount on the Dem side, so I'm not happy about this, but there could also have been some strategic discussion about this between Linda and Ron's staff which might have decided to play a PR game figuring if Ron stuck his neck out on this one it would just be one more thing the media would attack him over.I am profoundly grateful to Linda though for taking this on because before I read this thing Devvy sent me I was feeling like wanting to punch Ron in the face. If you'd like to contribute to the Granny Warriers to help pay for this recount, you'll find a link to their website at the link above. Personally, I think RP should have taken this on and been willing to pay for it from his campaign warchest which all of us have crawled over broken glass to contribute to- but he may have had some strategic reason for doing things this way. Maybe its better for Al Howard, a political unknown to be the one to spearhead this on the Republican side of the aisle because it will take some of the media heat of Ron at a time when he's already catching flack from all sides and could use some breathing space. Personally, I am VERY greatful to Linda Hunnicutt of the Granny Warriers for creating this breathing space for all of us. I chuckle inwardly when I think about Linda because she truly embodies the strength and courage of the people of the great state of North Carolina, a place I've always loved. When I lived in the Appalachians in SW Virginia I spent a lot of time in NC, and someday I hope I am lucky enough to meet Linda and her husband. This You Tube speaks volumes about the dedication Linda and her husband have toward Ron Paul and toward the future of America: This will have you laughing your ass off!! THE RON PAUL AFFAIR Please folks- lets emulate Linda and her husband- lets do some door to door canvassing for Ron Paul! We can overcome the Media, we can Overcome the CIA, we can Overcome the Mossad, we can Overcome the Bilderbergs, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR- lets all help Linda's husband get his wife back so this pain in the ass named Ron Paul doesn't continue ruining his life !!! ;-> Go to www.ronpaulroadshow.org Who says saving the country can't be fun?For Health Freedom, John C. Hammell, President International Advocates for Health Freedom 556 Boundary Bay Road Point Roberts, WA 98281-8702 USA http://www.iahf.com jham 800-333-2553 N.America 360-945-0352 World January 11, 2008Our campaign is growing every single day, with more and more volunteers and donors rallying to the cause of peace, freedom, and Constitutional government. And our staff is growing too! Our latest hire is Daniel McCarthy, who is coming on board as our Grassroots Communications Coordinator to keep the grassroots informed on the latest developments with the campaign. You'll get the freshest and most exciting news from the campaign, straight from our War Room, from Daniel and other staffers at our blog, the Daily Dose. Instant reaction to breaking news, immediate mobilization of our supporters-the blog will keep you up to speed on everything happening with the Ron Paul movement. And we're starting now: our first posts are up http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates . Check back regularly!Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 With Albert Howard ( a Republican who also ran in NH) and Dennis Kucinich both having officially filed for a recount, it appears that this fraud is not a figment of the imagination, but show a lot of courage on behalf of both above named politicians to go this far to establish the truth. They both need your prayers for their safety doing what they will do. It appears the recount is on this coming Wednesday. Hanneke At 11:15 AM 12/01/2008, you wrote: I too am following this ' possible' ugly fraud, from a distance down here in Tasmania. Ron Paul's office just sent out a link to HIS OWN BLOG.... I notice the new staff person in charge of writing this blog never refers to fraudulent vote counting.... you have to wonder why. Especially when people with some credibility (my opinion) like John Hammell do believe fraud took place......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 If you have listened to Ron Paul then you should know why he himself does not call "fraud". He does not have to. We are to do it. The strength of the people. I am proud, not angered, that he refuses to lower himself and point out the obvious. Listen to his Town Hall speech in N.H. on UTube. You will then know why he has the strength and integrity to remain silent. - clare mcconville - harris Friday, January 11, 2008 6:45 PM Re: YouTube - Is this Fraud?? I too am following this ' possible' ugly fraud, from a distance down here in Tasmania. Ron Paul's office just sent out a link to HIS OWN BLOG.... I notice the new staff person in charge of writing this blog never refers to fraudulent vote counting.... you have to wonder why. Especially when people with some credibility (my opinion) like John Hammell do believe fraud took place......... IAHF List: To paraphrase Thomas Paine, one of my favorite people from the Revolutionary War era because he was so outspoken: "These are the times that try men's (and women's) souls." http://www.ushistory.org/paine/ I don't know about you, but when it seemed to me like Ron Paul was going to just sweep the obvious vote fraud from the New Hampshire Primary under the rug and carry on with his campaign as if it didn't even happen- I was ready to MUTINY! I was hoppin' mad, and I know I wasn't alone- because many of you emailed me to express similar outraged sentiments. Devvy Kidd generated this superb article Devvy Kidd wrote this excellent article which I wrote to thank her for: she speaks for millions of us in this and I share her outrage and anger toward Ron Paul for not standing up for his constituents right now: http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd335.htmWILL RON PAUL AUTHORIZE AN AUDIT OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY?Because I want Ron to read this, I have lobbed it in to him via his brother, Reverend David Paul in Michigan who I am in contact with by phone and by email, and I have also lobbed it in to him via Norm Singleton, Ron's Legislative Director who I've known for years.When I emailed Devvy to thank her for her superbly written and very timely article, she emailed me back with this latest news: New Hampshire Republican Recount On the Cards http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/100108_recount.htm Thing is, I am still pissed off about this. The Granny Warriors (Linda Hunnicutt from North Carolina and her crew that travels nationwide in a mobile home stumping for RP) shouldn't have to bear this burden, Ron should have taken some of the $20 Million we broke our asses to raise for him and he should have been willing to emulate Dennis Kucinich who authorized a recount on the Dem side, so I'm not happy about this, but there could also have been some strategic discussion about this between Linda and Ron's staff which might have decided to play a PR game figuring if Ron stuck his neck out on this one it would just be one more thing the media would attack him over.I am profoundly grateful to Linda though for taking this on because before I read this thing Devvy sent me I was feeling like wanting to punch Ron in the face. If you'd like to contribute to the Granny Warriers to help pay for this recount, you'll find a link to their website at the link above. Personally, I think RP should have taken this on and been willing to pay for it from his campaign warchest which all of us have crawled over broken glass to contribute to- but he may have had some strategic reason for doing things this way. Maybe its better for Al Howard, a political unknown to be the one to spearhead this on the Republican side of the aisle because it will take some of the media heat of Ron at a time when he's already catching flack from all sides and could use some breathing space. Personally, I am VERY greatful to Linda Hunnicutt of the Granny Warriers for creating this breathing space for all of us. I chuckle inwardly when I think about Linda because she truly embodies the strength and courage of the people of the great state of North Carolina, a place I've always loved. When I lived in the Appalachians in SW Virginia I spent a lot of time in NC, and someday I hope I am lucky enough to meet Linda and her husband. This You Tube speaks volumes about the dedication Linda and her husband have toward Ron Paul and toward the future of America: This will have you laughing your ass off!! THE RON PAUL AFFAIR Please folks- lets emulate Linda and her husband- lets do some door to door canvassing for Ron Paul! We can overcome the Media, we can Overcome the CIA, we can Overcome the Mossad, we can Overcome the Bilderbergs, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR- lets all help Linda's husband get his wife back so this pain in the ass named Ron Paul doesn't continue ruining his life !!! ;-> Go to www.ronpaulroadshow.org Who says saving the country can't be fun?For Health Freedom, John C. Hammell, President International Advocates for Health Freedom 556 Boundary Bay Road Point Roberts, WA 98281-8702 USA http://www.iahf.com jham 800-333-2553 N.America 360-945-0352 World January 11, 2008Our campaign is growing every single day, with more and more volunteers and donors rallying to the cause of peace, freedom, and Constitutional government. And our staff is growing too! Our latest hire is Daniel McCarthy, who is coming on board as our Grassroots Communications Coordinator to keep the grassroots informed on the latest developments with the campaign. You'll get the freshest and most exciting news from the campaign, straight from our War Room, from Daniel and other staffers at our blog, the Daily Dose. Instant reaction to breaking news, immediate mobilization of our supporters-the blog will keep you up to speed on everything happening with the Ron Paul movement. And we're starting now: our first posts are up http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates . 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 It may be this that they are referring to. http://tinyurl.com/236vst This shows proof how they are trying to downplay Ron - Bill Kingsbury Friday, January 11, 2008 5:58 PM Re: YouTube - Is this Fraud?? --- At 04:45 PM 1/11/2008, clare mcconville - harris wrote:> I too am following this ' possible' ugly fraud, from a distance down here in Tasmania. Ron Paul's office just sent out a link to HIS OWN BLOG.... I notice the new staff person in charge of writing this blog never refers to fraudulent vote counting.... you have to wonder why. Especially when people with some credibility (my opinion) like John Hammell do believe fraud took place.........Clare,Are you referring to this? - http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates/2008/01/Yes, the Ron Paul staffers seem very lame, compared to the independent campaign efforts. (Remember, Ron wasn't actually planning in advance, to run for president.)The vote fraud was SO obvious, that Ron Paul was waiting for other candidates to demand a recount (as they announced they would do) -- and as three of them have already done. The votes will be recounted.Ron's friend Dennis Kucinich was one of those who filed for a recount, and it's possible that Dennis and Ron planned this together.The reason Ron waited is because all of the other 48 states also use hack-able voting machines. He doesn't want to enable the media to ALL be broadcasting a negative mantra, like -- "failed candidate Ron Paul, mired in unprovable Vote Fraud allegations..."Ron is smart to wait, so the media will only have his REAL issues to report on. Many people still have not heard Ron Paul's message.Bill .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 There is that risk... however, there is also witness account of towns having reported zero votes for a candidate whereas people know they voted in that particular precinct. I do believe that MSM is not just curious (for the sake of a better word) but dying to know why it is that Hitlery Clinton's outcome was well beyond any polling figures.. to name just one of the candidates... At 02:03 PM 12/01/2008, you wrote: Is Dennis Kucinich Stepping Into A Trap With Recount? < http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/1954/71260.html > " We have no control over the ballot chain of custody and we have learned the pain from the 2004 Nader recount, in which only 11 districts were counted, chosen by a highly questionable person, and then nothing showed up. Now all we hear is how the Nader recount validated the machines. " As Tobi says, " A candidate asking for a recount may well be a tool used to 'prove' everything was okay and then that candidate will be further discredited. " --- Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 11/01/2008 6:09 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Well, it have been taken down. lørdag 12. jan 2008 kl. 04:09 skrev Harvey Flatbush: > It may be this that they are referring to. > > http://tinyurl.com/236vst > > This shows proof how they are trying to downplay Ron > > > > - > Bill Kingsbury > > Friday, January 11, 2008 5:58 PM > Re: YouTube - Is this Fraud?? > > > --- At 04:45 PM 1/11/2008, clare mcconville - harris wrote: > > > > I too am following this ' possible' ugly fraud, from a distance down > here in Tasmania. Ron Paul's office just sent out a link to HIS OWN > BLOG.... I notice the new staff person in charge of writing this blog > never refers to fraudulent vote counting.... you have to wonder why. > Especially when people with some credibility (my opinion) like John > Hammell do believe fraud took place......... > > > > Clare, > > Are you referring to this? - > > http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates/2008/01/ > > Yes, the Ron Paul staffers seem very lame, compared to the > independent campaign efforts. (Remember, Ron wasn't actually > planning in advance, to run for president.) > > The vote fraud was SO obvious, that Ron Paul was waiting for other > candidates to demand a recount (as they announced they would do) -- > and as three of them have already done. The votes will be recounted. > > Ron's friend Dennis Kucinich was one of those who filed for a recount, > and it's possible that Dennis and Ron planned this together. > > The reason Ron waited is because all of the other 48 states also use > hack-able voting machines. He doesn't want to enable the media to > ALL be broadcasting a negative mantra, like -- " failed candidate > Ron Paul, mired in unprovable Vote Fraud allegations... " > > Ron is smart to wait, so the media will only have his REAL issues > to report on. Many people still have not heard Ron Paul's message. > > > Bill > > > > > > . <image.tiff> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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