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>Major article calling for impeachment

>in Sunday's Washington Post

>On the front page of the Outlook section in the Sunday Washington Post

>(Jan. 6, 2007) is a major article calling for Bush's impeachment written

>by George McGovern. As we enter the last year of Bush's term as President,

>the call for impeachment is only becoming stronger. The demand for

>accountability and the principled insistence that we must Save the

>Constitution has mobilized hundreds of thousands of people across the

>United States.

>The fact that the Washington Post has so prominently presented a call for

>impeachment is a testament to the grassroots movement of the people that

>has become a force in American politics. Not content to just rotate

>presidents in and out, we understand that the promise and aspirations of

>constitutionally guaranteed freedoms, and the hope that the country can

>live in peace with the world, rest on the people uniting to demand action.

>Join us in a major winter impeachment mobilization. Volunteers are working

>throughout the country. Please help us take out more newspaper ads calling

>for impeachment, and help fund an intensive lobbying campaign currently

>underway in Congress. To make an urgently needed donation, .

>We have reprinted McGovern's article below.

>-- All of us at VoteToImpeach / ImpeachBush.org

>

>

>Why I Believe Bush Must Go

>Nixon Was Bad. These Guys Are Worse.

>By George McGovern

>Sunday, January 6, 2008; B01

>As we enter the eighth year of the Bush-Cheney administration, I have

>belatedly and painfully concluded that the only honorable course for me is

>to urge the impeachment of the president and the vice president.

>After the 1972 presidential election, I stood clear of calls to impeach

>President Richard M. Nixon for his misconduct during the campaign. I

>thought that my joining the impeachment effort would be seen as an

>expression of personal vengeance toward the president who had defeated me.

>Today I have made a different choice.

>Of course, there seems to be little bipartisan support for impeachment.

>The political scene is marked by narrow and sometimes superficial

>partisanship, especially among Republicans, and a lack of courage and

>statesmanship on the part of too many Democratic politicians. So the

>chances of a bipartisan impeachment and conviction are not promising.

>But what are the facts?

>Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses. They

>have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national

>and international law. They have lied to the American people time after

>time. Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved

>country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world. These

>are truly " high crimes and misdemeanors, " to use the constitutional standard.

> From the beginning, the Bush-Cheney team's assumption of power was the

> product of questionable elections that probably should have been

> officially challenged -- perhaps even by a congressional investigation.

>In a more fundamental sense, American democracy has been derailed

>throughout the Bush-Cheney regime. The dominant commitment of the

>administration has been a murderous, illegal, nonsensical war against

>Iraq. That irresponsible venture has killed almost 4,000 Americans, left

>many times that number mentally or physically crippled, claimed the lives

>of an estimated 600,000 Iraqis (according to a careful October 2006 study

>from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health) and laid waste

>their country. The financial cost to the United States is now $250 million

>a day and is expected to exceed a total of $1 trillion, most of which we

>have borrowed from the Chinese and others as our national debt has now

>climbed above $9 trillion -- by far the highest in our national history.

>All of this has been done without the declaration of war from Congress

>that the Constitution clearly requires, in defiance of the U.N. Charter

>and in violation of international law. This reckless disregard for life

>and property, as well as constitutional law, has been accompanied by the

>abuse of prisoners, including systematic torture, in direct violation of

>the Geneva Conventions of 1949.

>I have not been heavily involved in singing the praises of the Nixon

>administration. But the case for impeaching Bush and Cheney is far

>stronger than was the case against Nixon and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

>after the 1972 election. The nation would be much more secure and

>productive under a Nixon presidency than with Bush. Indeed, has any

>administration in our national history been so damaging as the Bush-Cheney era?

>How could a once-admired, great nation fall into such a quagmire of

>killing, immorality and lawlessness?

>It happened in part because the Bush-Cheney team repeatedly deceived

>Congress, the press and the public into believing that Saddam Hussein had

>nuclear arms and other horrifying banned weapons that were an " imminent

>threat " to the United States. The administration also led the public to

>believe that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 attacks -- another blatant

>falsehood. Many times in recent years, I have recalled Jefferson's

>observation: " Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. "

>The basic strategy of the administration has been to encourage a climate

>of fear, letting it exploit the 2001 al-Qaeda attacks not only to justify

>the invasion of Iraq but also to excuse such dangerous misbehavior as the

>illegal tapping of our telephones by government agents. The same

>fear-mongering has led government spokesmen and cooperative members of the

>press to imply that we are at war with the entire Arab and Muslim world --

>more than a billion people.

>Another shocking perversion has been the shipping of prisoners scooped off

>the streets of Afghanistan to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and other countries

>without benefit of our time-tested laws of habeas corpus.

>Although the president was advised by the intelligence agencies last

>August that Iran had no program to develop nuclear weapons, he continued

>to lie to the country and the world. This is the same strategy of

>deception that brought us into war in the Arabian Desert and could lead us

>into an unjustified invasion of Iran. I can say with some professional

>knowledge and experience that if Bush invades yet another Muslim oil

>state, it would mark the end of U.S. influence in the crucial Middle East

>for decades.

>Ironically, while Bush and Cheney made counterterrorism the battle cry of

>their administration, their policies -- especially the war in Iraq -- have

>increased the terrorist threat and reduced the security of the United

>States. Consider the difference between the policies of the first

>President Bush and those of his son. When the Iraqi army marched into

>Kuwait in August 1990, President George H.W. Bush gathered the support of

>the entire world, including the United Nations, the European Union and

>most of the Arab League, to quickly expel Iraqi forces from Kuwait. The

>Saudis and Japanese paid most of the cost. Instead of getting bogged down

>in a costly occupation, the administration established a policy of

>containing the Baathist regime with international arms inspectors, no-fly

>zones and economic sanctions. Iraq was left as a stable country with

>little or no capacity to threaten others.

>Today, after five years of clumsy, mistaken policies and U.S. military

>occupation, Iraq has become a breeding ground of terrorism and bloody

>civil strife. It is no secret that former president Bush, his secretary of

>state, James A. Baker III, and his national security adviser, Gen. Brent

>Scowcroft, all opposed the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq.

>In addition to the shocking breakdown of presidential legal and moral

>responsibility, there is the scandalous neglect and mishandling of the

>Hurricane Katrina catastrophe. The veteran CNN commentator Jack Cafferty

>condenses it to a sentence: " I have never ever seen anything as badly

>bungled and poorly handled as this situation in New Orleans. " Any

>impeachment proceeding must include a careful and critical look at the

>collapse of presidential leadership in response to perhaps the worst

>natural disaster in U.S. history.

>Impeachment is unlikely, of course. But we must still urge Congress to

>act. Impeachment, quite simply, is the procedure written into the

>Constitution to deal with presidents who violate the Constitution and the

>laws of the land. It is also a way to signal to the American people and

>the world that some of us feel strongly enough about the present drift of

>our country to support the impeachment of the false prophets who have led

>us astray. This, I believe, is the rightful course for an American patriot.

>As former representative Elizabeth Holtzman, who played a key role in the

>Nixon impeachment proceedings, wrote two years ago, " it wasn't until the

>most recent revelations that President Bush directed the wiretapping of

>hundreds, possibly thousands, of Americans, in violation of the Foreign

>Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) -- and argued that, as Commander in

>Chief, he had the right in the interests of national security to override

>our country's laws -- that I felt the same sinking feeling in my stomach

>as I did during Watergate. . . . A President, any President, who maintains

>that he is above the law -- and repeatedly violates the law -- thereby

>commits high crimes and misdemeanors. "

>I believe we have a chance to heal the wounds the nation has suffered in

>the opening decade of the 21st century. This recovery may take a

>generation and will depend on the election of a series of rational

>presidents and Congresses. At age 85, I won't be around to witness the

>completion of the difficult rebuilding of our sorely damaged country, but

>I'd like to hold on long enough to see the healing begin.

>There has never been a day in my adult life when I would not have

>sacrificed that life to save the United States from genuine danger, such

>as the ones we faced when I served as a bomber pilot in World War II. We

>must be a great nation because from time to time, we make gigantic

>blunders, but so far, we have survived and recovered.

>

>

>Join us in a major winter impeachment mobilization. Volunteers are working

>throughout the country. Please help us take out more newspaper ads calling

>for impeachment, and help fund an intensive lobbying campaign currently

>underway in Congress. To make an urgently needed donation, .

 

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Worse than worse, This man was never elected to be President. He stole Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004. And here is how he did it................... HBO had a documentery a year or so ago called Hacking Democracy. If you care at all about our political system it is a must see. It is also one of the better (or worse) stories ever told. I found it on You tube and watched it all over again a week ago. Our herione shows the Ohio legislature how easily the Diebold machines are comprimised so they decide to buy 10 million dollars more of that same machine. If our votes are not getting counted right than it is not a democracy. But where is the outrage? We will have politics in our face for the next 10 monthes and if we can't count the votes accuratley then it is all one big charade! I need a job before I can think about doing anything about it though. Thanks! Doug Brush The

Havens <thehavens wrote: At 10:47 AM 1/7/08, you wrote:>ImpeachBushorg <ImpeachBush (AT) VoteToImpeach (DOT) org>>"Nixon Was Bad. These Guys Are Worse," Washington Post>thehavens (AT) highland (DOT) net>>>>Click here to .>Major article calling for impeachment>in Sunday's Washington Post>On the front page of the Outlook section in the Sunday Washington

Post >(Jan. 6, 2007) is a major article calling for Bush's impeachment written >by George McGovern. As we enter the last year of Bush's term as President, >the call for impeachment is only becoming stronger. The demand for >accountability and the principled insistence that we must Save the >Constitution has mobilized hundreds of thousands of people across the >United States.>The fact that the Washington Post has so prominently presented a call for >impeachment is a testament to the grassroots movement of the people that >has become a force in American politics. Not content to just rotate >presidents in and out, we understand that the promise and aspirations of >constitutionally guaranteed freedoms, and the hope that the country can >live in peace with the world, rest on the people uniting to demand action.>Join us in a major winter impeachment mobilization. Volunteers are working

>throughout the country. Please help us take out more newspaper ads calling >for impeachment, and help fund an intensive lobbying campaign currently >underway in Congress. To make an urgently needed donation, .>We have reprinted McGovern's article below.>-- All of us at VoteToImpeach / ImpeachBush.org>>>Why I Believe Bush Must Go>Nixon Was Bad. These Guys Are Worse.>By George McGovern>Sunday, January 6, 2008; B01>As we enter the eighth year of the Bush-Cheney administration, I have >belatedly and painfully concluded that the only honorable course for me is >to urge the impeachment of the president and the vice president.>After the 1972 presidential election, I stood clear of calls to impeach >President Richard M. Nixon for his misconduct during the campaign. I >thought that my joining the impeachment effort would be seen as an

>expression of personal vengeance toward the president who had defeated me.>Today I have made a different choice.>Of course, there seems to be little bipartisan support for impeachment. >The political scene is marked by narrow and sometimes superficial >partisanship, especially among Republicans, and a lack of courage and >statesmanship on the part of too many Democratic politicians. So the >chances of a bipartisan impeachment and conviction are not promising.>But what are the facts?>Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses. They >have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national >and international law. They have lied to the American people time after >time. Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved >country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world. These >are truly "high crimes and

misdemeanors," to use the constitutional standard.> From the beginning, the Bush-Cheney team's assumption of power was the > product of questionable elections that probably should have been > officially challenged -- perhaps even by a congressional investigation.>In a more fundamental sense, American democracy has been derailed >throughout the Bush-Cheney regime. The dominant commitment of the >administration has been a murderous, illegal, nonsensical war against >Iraq. That irresponsible venture has killed almost 4,000 Americans, left >many times that number mentally or physically crippled, claimed the lives >of an estimated 600,000 Iraqis (according to a careful October 2006 study >from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health) and laid waste >their country. The financial cost to the United States is now $250 million >a day and is expected to exceed a total of $1 trillion,

most of which we >have borrowed from the Chinese and others as our national debt has now >climbed above $9 trillion -- by far the highest in our national history.>All of this has been done without the declaration of war from Congress >that the Constitution clearly requires, in defiance of the U.N. Charter >and in violation of international law. This reckless disregard for life >and property, as well as constitutional law, has been accompanied by the >abuse of prisoners, including systematic torture, in direct violation of >the Geneva Conventions of 1949.>I have not been heavily involved in singing the praises of the Nixon >administration. But the case for impeaching Bush and Cheney is far >stronger than was the case against Nixon and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew >after the 1972 election. The nation would be much more secure and >productive under a Nixon presidency than with Bush.

Indeed, has any >administration in our national history been so damaging as the Bush-Cheney era?>How could a once-admired, great nation fall into such a quagmire of >killing, immorality and lawlessness?>It happened in part because the Bush-Cheney team repeatedly deceived >Congress, the press and the public into believing that Saddam Hussein had >nuclear arms and other horrifying banned weapons that were an "imminent >threat" to the United States. The administration also led the public to >believe that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 attacks -- another blatant >falsehood. Many times in recent years, I have recalled Jefferson's >observation: "Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.">The basic strategy of the administration has been to encourage a climate >of fear, letting it exploit the 2001 al-Qaeda attacks not only to justify >the invasion of Iraq but also to

excuse such dangerous misbehavior as the >illegal tapping of our telephones by government agents. The same >fear-mongering has led government spokesmen and cooperative members of the >press to imply that we are at war with the entire Arab and Muslim world -- >more than a billion people.>Another shocking perversion has been the shipping of prisoners scooped off >the streets of Afghanistan to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and other countries >without benefit of our time-tested laws of habeas corpus.>Although the president was advised by the intelligence agencies last >August that Iran had no program to develop nuclear weapons, he continued >to lie to the country and the world. This is the same strategy of >deception that brought us into war in the Arabian Desert and could lead us >into an unjustified invasion of Iran. I can say with some professional >knowledge and experience that if Bush

invades yet another Muslim oil >state, it would mark the end of U.S. influence in the crucial Middle East >for decades.>Ironically, while Bush and Cheney made counterterrorism the battle cry of >their administration, their policies -- especially the war in Iraq -- have >increased the terrorist threat and reduced the security of the United >States. Consider the difference between the policies of the first >President Bush and those of his son. When the Iraqi army marched into >Kuwait in August 1990, President George H.W. Bush gathered the support of >the entire world, including the United Nations, the European Union and >most of the Arab League, to quickly expel Iraqi forces from Kuwait. The >Saudis and Japanese paid most of the cost. Instead of getting bogged down >in a costly occupation, the administration established a policy of >containing the Baathist regime with international

arms inspectors, no-fly >zones and economic sanctions. Iraq was left as a stable country with >little or no capacity to threaten others.>Today, after five years of clumsy, mistaken policies and U.S. military >occupation, Iraq has become a breeding ground of terrorism and bloody >civil strife. It is no secret that former president Bush, his secretary of >state, James A. Baker III, and his national security adviser, Gen. Brent >Scowcroft, all opposed the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq.>In addition to the shocking breakdown of presidential legal and moral >responsibility, there is the scandalous neglect and mishandling of the >Hurricane Katrina catastrophe. The veteran CNN commentator Jack Cafferty >condenses it to a sentence: "I have never ever seen anything as badly >bungled and poorly handled as this situation in New Orleans." Any >impeachment proceeding must include a careful

and critical look at the >collapse of presidential leadership in response to perhaps the worst >natural disaster in U.S. history.>Impeachment is unlikely, of course. But we must still urge Congress to >act. Impeachment, quite simply, is the procedure written into the >Constitution to deal with presidents who violate the Constitution and the >laws of the land. It is also a way to signal to the American people and >the world that some of us feel strongly enough about the present drift of >our country to support the impeachment of the false prophets who have led >us astray. This, I believe, is the rightful course for an American patriot.>As former representative Elizabeth Holtzman, who played a key role in the >Nixon impeachment proceedings, wrote two years ago, "it wasn't until the >most recent revelations that President Bush directed the wiretapping of >hundreds, possibly thousands,

of Americans, in violation of the Foreign >Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) -- and argued that, as Commander in >Chief, he had the right in the interests of national security to override >our country's laws -- that I felt the same sinking feeling in my stomach >as I did during Watergate. . . . A President, any President, who maintains >that he is above the law -- and repeatedly violates the law -- thereby >commits high crimes and misdemeanors.">I believe we have a chance to heal the wounds the nation has suffered in >the opening decade of the 21st century. This recovery may take a >generation and will depend on the election of a series of rational >presidents and Congresses. At age 85, I won't be around to witness the >completion of the difficult rebuilding of our sorely damaged country, but >I'd like to hold on long enough to see the healing begin.>There has never been a

day in my adult life when I would not have >sacrificed that life to save the United States from genuine danger, such >as the ones we faced when I served as a bomber pilot in World War II. We >must be a great nation because from time to time, we make gigantic >blunders, but so far, we have survived and recovered.>>>Join us in a major winter impeachment mobilization. Volunteers are working >throughout the country. Please help us take out more newspaper ads calling >for impeachment, and help fund an intensive lobbying campaign currently >underway in Congress. To make an urgently needed donation, .******Kraig and Shirley Carroll ... in the woods of SE Kentuckyhttp://www.thehavens.com/thehavens (AT) highland (DOT) net606-376-3363---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release 2/14/05

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